Drew Bowling on Obama’s Syrian Nightmare

over at Catholic Vote.

Not too late to strap Our Dear Leader and Congress to Tomahawks and fire them into Antarctica. It would “send a message” to the people who have done more harm to this country than anybody else over the past 10 years: Our Ruling Class.

Speaking of which, Cracked provides its typically sterling analysis to the issues of the day:

Hey, guys — I’m starting to think we overreacted to the terrorism thing.

It hit me last year as I was standing in the naked airport scanner again,  listening to the faint gasps and then applause from the monitoring booth, and  realized that I wouldn’t put up with that hassle to ward off the threat of, say,  lightning.

Anyway, that made me look back at the lessons we’ve learned in the 12 years  since the 9/11 attacks, and I’ve got to say, it’s not encouraging. For instance,  we found out that …

#6. Terrorism Totally Works!

 

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Al-Qaida spent about $500,000 executing the 9/11 terror attacks. The U.S.  government has spent up to $5 trillion fighting back. One expert estimated we’re  spending about $400 million per life saved.

In other words, for every dollar the bad guys spent, we lost 10  million. And that’s not even counting the money lost due to the economic  slump that followed. That, friends, is one hell of a return on an investment.  Also: The 9/11 attacks killed 2,996 people. The response has killed 224,475 and  displaced another 7.8 million refugees.

And with Obama we’ve learned *less* than nothing, because 12 years after our hysterical overreaction, we are ready to do it all again, only this time on the side of Al-Quaida!  And nobody is pushing harder for it than the warlike buffoons at FOX or numbskulls like Kristol, McCain, and Graham who pounded the drums for sending us off to Iraq to go fight them terrorists on the promise of a utopian New American Century the last time.  As A Conservative Blog for Peace puts it:

We haven’t learned anything. The narrative remains: all our wars are ‘humanitarian interventions’ to save somebody; crusades by secularized Yankee missionaries. (So the president gets to keep his affirmative-action Nobel.) The powers that be are claiming Assad has poison gas, just like the Republicans said about Saddam Hussein. Nothing to do with us in both cases. Somebody think of the chiiiildren! Of course Syria’s Christians are invisible. Neither the Evil Party in power (never mind much of it used to be Catholic: labor) nor the Stupid Party (Rockefeller liberals duping evangelicals and practicing Catholics) loves the church, and arguably there is no Catholic vote to try to please anymore (Vatican II, the gift that keeps on giving; more empty parish buildings around here for cyber charter schools). Anyway, al-Qaeda were angry about our meddling in the Mideast, so mostly Saudi hijackers flew planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon; we continued what Bush the Elder did and invaded a secular Arab country nothing to do with the attack. Now… we’re supporting al-Qaeda trying to overthrow another secular Arab country?! Orwellian.

I disagree with the scorn for Vatican II (which, as is typical for first worlders, ignores the fact that the Church has grown 7000% in the past century and focuses solely on a narrative of decline) and I particularly disagree that “we” haven’t learned anything (if “we” means “we voters”).  I think the loud and vocal opposition from the American people, including a lot of people learned from the mistake of supporting the Iraq debacle has been a markedly different experience from the war fever the Bushies drummed up.  Quite a lot of our Ruling Class has learned nothing–and a lot of the Left are pretty quiet who were much noisier last time.  But on the whole, I would say that “we” have learned, just our Rulers haven’t.  The problem is, our Rulers decide who gets sent into battle, bombed, and killed.  If the Dear Leader decides that war which work in theory are more important than people who die in fact, we still could wind up in a mega stupid war to support al Quaida and related baby killers.  Orwellian indeed.

  • Mike

    But on the whole, I would say that “we” have learned, just our Rulers
    haven’t. The problem is, our Rulers decide who gets sent into battle,
    bombed, and killed.

    “The trouble with modern England is not how many or how people vote. It is that, however many people vote, a small ring of administrators do what they please.”

    -G.K. Chesterton

    [Just substitute "modern America" into the above quote, and it is quite as applicable]

    • Mike

      *how many or how few

  • vox borealis

    One expert estimated we’re spending about $400 million per life saved. In other words, for every dollar the bad guys spent, we lost 10 million.

    I agree in general with the post and the article it responds to, but is this the way we really want to evaluate the War on Terror(ism)? Do we really want to look at policies, especially those that (may) save lives? If we reduce ourselves to this logic and rhetoric, we are accepting the rules of engagement for those in power, whether the State or the Insurance Company, to set cost-saving death panels and the like.

    The issue should *not* be how much does it cost to defend ourselves, and especially should it not be a problem if it costs far more to defend ourselves than it costs the bad guys to threaten us. Heck, the police spend a lot more than criminals, in part because they have better benefits.

    • Dan C

      We do it all the time. We determine how much we are willing to spend to save lives.

      We cannot have health care insurance according to some because it costs too much. Etc.

      But for far less ROI and greater expenses, we support the war on terror because if you do not then (name the propaganda- you aren’t supporting the troops, you hate freedom, you are French). But military gets a blank check.

      Yes, the calculation is done all the time. Wait for the “defund Obamacare” speeches.

  • vox borealis

    which, as is typical for first worlders, ignores the fact that the Church has grown 7000% in the past century

    Not to open a rabbit hole, but I find this an interesting statistic, and one deserving some documentation. Are we talking about the Catholic Church, or all Christianity? Plus, does this take into account the dramatic increase in the world’s population (more like 300% over the least century, not nearly 7000%, but it does lessen the relative increase, assuming the latter figure is accurate)? And of course, we could get into what percentage of these whopping number of new Christians actually believes in or knows basic tenets of the faith, and then we would have to compare that to previous generations.

    A very intriguing stat, though.

    • chezami

      Got it from John Allen at the Archidiocesan conference in Denver in 2011. He’s not given to Making Crap Up. But you need to ask him.

      • vox borealis

        John Allen is awesome. Saw him give a pretty great lecture a few years back on what he interpreted as Pope Benedict’s view of the Third Millenium of Christianity (this was while Allen was completing his book on the challenges facing the church in the 21st century,which is heavily focused on the Third World, so no surprise he had some relevant statistics).

  • Marthe Lépine

    “If the Dear Leader decides that war which work in theory are more important than people who die in fact”
    I am under the impression that this is not quite correct. Or, more exactly, war does work if you look at how many weapon manufacturers and other members of the warmongering crowd get richer from the money spent on wars by governments, for example the sales of weapon manufacturers have to increase steadily over the years and they need wars for that purpose.

    • George Lower

      Yes. Like a Casino in Vegas the military-industrial complex that builds better killing machines never loses…and they have become a powerful lobby that promotes war for any reason whatsoever. It’s high time we beat some swords into plowshares.


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