Why Sex with Creatures from the Future is a Bad Idea

Science: Striving to Answer the Big Questions.

Be careful out there, people!

Also: 186,000 miles per second isn’t just the law, it’s a good idea:

Imagine: you’ve traveled all the way across the galaxy to some faraway, potentially life-embracing planet orbiting a faraway star, only to obliterate your destination upon arrival. It’s a very real threat according to few physicists at the University of Sydney. It turns out that a spacecraft emerging from a so-called Alcubierre warp drive does so quite violently, releasing an accumulation of high energy particles that would annihilate anything in their path.

I think such scientists have a markedly different definition of “very real” than the rest of us.  Personally I do not think the results of warp drive travel are any more “very real” than the result of traveling via flue powder. Still, it does affirm me in my okayness as a Cosmic Killjoy to hear yet another nail driven in the coffin of the Secular Eschatological Hope of Mankind’s Colonization of the Universe.  It’s a romantic idea, but it ain’t never gonna a happen.

  • Rebecca Duncan

    Yep, ain’t never gonna happen and thank God. I find it disgusting and yet amusing that people put their hope in this crap. I had a conversation with a guy (an atheist) who said, well, someday we’ll be able to upload our brains into cyberspace and become immortal. This seemed to make him feel better and think that it would make existence a paradise. Yeah, too bad you’d be dead before that could ever happen…fate is so cruel. *gag*

    • Dillon T. McCameron

      Something I’ve never understood about that: copying your brain to a computer would, in a way, just make another you, while the old you still has to wait around to die. That is to say, you have to die, only now your oh-so-precious brain-print is on a computer. Woo-hoo.

      Or you could “delete” the original upon upload, so you’d die immediately. It’s not as though your consciousness shifts about to wherever your brain-print is.

      It’s a bit like having a clone. A clone isn’t you so much as he is a really identical twin.

      Anyway. It’d make much more sense to me to chase immortality through a self-repairing cyborg body.

      • Alma Peregrina

        Yet another problem. Up-loading your brain to a computer will give you imortality? Really? Atheists are so credulous. Why, with the amount of times I’ve seen a computer crash… I would never put my brain in it. Nah hah. No chance.

        • Alma Peregrina

          On the other hand, finally zombie outbreaks would be possible.

          Just imagine. One day my brain is in the Matrix, calmly opening a mail…
          … and suddendly me and all my friends become mindless slaves to punkguyvirusLOL1984.

          • Dillon T. McCameron

            Wasn’t that a movie? Where the “Matrix” was essentially a SecondLife server, and Bruce Willis, who could choose to be anyone, decides to be himself in a terrible toupee?

            Or was that just killing people via remote? I think I like your idea better.

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      • Rebecca Duncan

        good point although I think it would be lost on a materialist really.

    • Dan Li

      I wouldn’t mind the cyberspace option… if there were some guarantee of it actually being me. And as for warp drives, it’s an unknown factor.

  • Dr. Eric

    Grandfather Paradox

    Or in Philip J. Frye’s case, Grandmother Paradox!

  • godescalc

    To be fair, the scientists themselves didn´t use the words “very real” at all, that was a journalistic gloss. (The scientists did discuss the possibilities in very factual language, but that´s common in presenting theoretical simulations and calculations as long as it´s clear that the findings are on the theoretical level.)

    Rebecca, why should we thank God that it´s never going to happen? That (some) atheists may have dubious attitudes and delusional hopes bound up with the matter doesn´t mean it´s a bad thing to want to travel to space, or to have a sense of wonder and curiosity with regards to the universe. It probably will never happen, as you say, but it seems unreasonable to rejoice in the entire species being deprived of something just because it frustrates a couple of atheists.

    • Rebecca Duncan

      this: the Secular Eschatological Hope of Mankind’s Colonization of the Universe. That’s the part that disgusts me. I don’t rejoice in our species being deprived of something, I don’t think our species would be deprived of anything in not going to outer space personally. If people like to dream of going to space that’s fine, what I object to is that they think it’s going to give meaning to their lives for some reason, when it doesn’t.

  • http://brianniemeier.com/ Brian Niemeier

    Two words: deflector dish.

  • Rebecca Fuentes

    That would be about the biggest oops in history. “Arrived at destination. Destroyed destination. Colonization impossible. Return trip will annihilate Earth. Awaiting orders.”

    • Alma Peregrina

      Oh… my… God.
      Poor astronauts… :(

      • Rebecca Fuentes

        It would make an interesting plot for a sci-fi book–a rather tragic one.

  • Jason Hall

    Clearly they need to adjust the matter-antimatter mix ratios. Also, as Brian points out, a deflector dish would help.

  • Dan Li

    Well, the warp drive is actually less of a pipe-dream than flue powder. It’s theoretically plausible. It just requires more energy than we produce on the planet in a year…

    Maybe in a thousand years.

  • A Mama of many nerdlings

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-me2inj1nNw B movie science fiction has the answer: Space Herpe


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