Fresh on the Heels of our Recent Discussion of the Racialism of the Dark Enlightenment Crowd

…that is currently making inroads in some of the de-Christianizing younger generation of the Thing That Used to Be Conservatism, there comes this little cloud no bigger than a man’s hand from the propaganda organ of the Party of Personal Responsibility:

Fox News contributor: Angry blacks to blame for rise in ‘American Anglo-Saxon’ racism

“I think the racist garbage coming from the — uh, a lot of blacks right now who are just filled with bitterness and rage is just amazing to me,” Rios said. “It is racism, I am seeing it constantly here in D.C., you know, I think — and it’s causing white citizens to become more racist than they ever were.”

Message: If “American Anglo-Saxons” are more racist (and in a moment I will contradict myself and say that they aren’t “more racist than they ever were and are “past” racism for the most part–but *if* they are) it’s the fault of those people over there, who are notably *not* of American Anglo-Saxon genetic stock.

Here’s what you do about the sin of racism, Sandy, as with all other sin: “Through my fault, through my fault, through my own most grievous fault.”

Best part: she’s a Christian.

Oy.

  • Dave G.

    In the wake of the Duke Lacrosse Team story some years back, when a bunch of lacrosse players, who were white, were accused of assaulting a black woman, I saw multiple interviews with various individuals maintaining that racism is and always will be a white phenomenon. When it was suggested that the woman may have trumped up the charges by playing on this notion, the ‘experts’ dug in their heals. This culminated with a letter signed by multiple Duke faculty more or less condemning the players, and a CNN round table I’ll never forget, in which we were told emphatically that if you are white, then racist is what you are. This prompted my ever witty son to quip ‘I guess what they’re saying is that you can always tell a racist by the color of his skin.’ Which was, of course, exactly what they were saying. Since hearing him say that, and imagining what that would mean to a young boy of mostly Anglo Saxon heritage, I’ve never seen the race issue the same way. Does that mean anyone should be justified with meeting racism for racism? Of course not. Sin is never the right response to sin. But it does mean that it might be reasonable for us to look at multiple sources when, in the 21st century, there is a sudden increase in racially charged sentiments flying about.

  • Spastic Hedgehog

    I’m white but not anglo-saxon. I’m confused as to how I’m supposed to feel…

    • Jordan

      Me too, haha. Second rate, I’d imagine (isn’t that how the purest of the pure view Southern and Eastern Europe)?

  • AndyNowicki

    Google “Knockout Game,” Mark.

    • HornOrSilk
    • Dan C

      Ummm…where is this game? I work in a ghetto, and no one is playing this game. I use public transportation into this ghetto and still no evidence of a “knockout game.” I do work in a hospital and the “shooty game” highlighted in Horn of Silk’s link is played every day in this city.

      Fake fear. Worry about the guns. The shooty game is real.

      But I would like to know the link between the “knockout game” and Dark Enlightenement. That would be very enlightening. How are they linked?

      • entonces_99

        So if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist?

        • Dan C

          Are you asserting it exists? Is that what you are saying? I claim no. And this is fake fear.

          What do you believe?

          • Stu
            • entonces_99

              No, you shouldn’t. Dan C didn’t observe any of the incidents reported in that story, so they are evidence of nothing.

            • Dan C

              No. And where is it?

              • Stu

                Where is what?

                The report from CNN with actual video and discussion of arrests? It’s in the link provided.

                • Dan C

                  I witnessed aggravated assaults. I saw no evidence of “game.” Where is this game now?

                  • Stu

                    Do you remember being young and not always doing the right thing?

                    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/teen-records-assault-on-old-woman-675432

                    Now if you want to make the case that it’s not widespread and over-stated then I think you have a point, but to deny it is just as extreme in the other direction.

                    • Dan C

                      When I was young, I probably was no more misbehaved than I am now. I had no wild oat-sowing youth.

                    • Stu

                      Well, that makes one of us.

          • entonces_99

            What I believe is that your failure to see it proves nothing, unless you have observed (and perceived correctly) the entire universe of instances where is might have occurred.

            • Dan C

              Aggravated assault exists. I maintain it is not a widespread game. I maintain that shooting violence is more prevalent and more concerning.

              And I want to know its relationship to Dark Enlightenment.

              Because asserting that Dark Enlightenement, etc is The Blacks fault sounds like that whiny victim hood stuff conservatives campaigning for more personal responsibility were opposed to.

              • Stu

                “I maintain it is not a widespread game.”
                ——————-
                That’s quite different than saying “I claim no” in asking if it exists.

                • Dan C

                  The “rampaging black teen males” theme shows up as “wolfing” (mid 90′s), “wild packs” about ten years ago, “flash mobs” about 4-5 years ago stringing together events across a nation of 350 million people.

                  So, yes, I have suspicions that the “rampaging black male theme” is part of the Fear!Fear!Fear Industry. To promote fear and anger .

                  So, no, isolated incidents of aggravated assaults are not a game or a nationwide anti-white male conspiracy.

                  • Stu

                    Who claims a nationwide anti-white male conspiracy? Seems to me that you jump along in coming to extreme conclusions.

          • virago

            It’s real. How can you say it ‘s not? Black people are as capable. Of foolish, cruel deeds as white people.

          • jaybird1951

            But haven’t a number of these ‘knockout’ attacks been caught on video? Maybe the practice is not as widespread as originally feared but it is not fake.

          • entonces_99

            No, I am not asserting that it exists. Nor am I asserting that it doesn’t exist. I am asserting that your reasons for claiming that it does not exist are laughably inadequate.

      • Tom Leith

        The knockout game is played right here in my neighborhood in South St. Louis. Right out on Grand Avenue and immediate environs. Not exactly a ghetto, unless you live in West St. Louis County, in which case you think everything east of Skinker is a ghetto. But I digress. The geography makes sense, you see. In order to play the knockout game, you have to find a middle aged white guy to knock out, and they don’t often live in ghettos…

      • AndyNowicki

        I have a friend who got beaten up and sent to a hospital in Chicago… The knockout game is real.

        • chezami

          Aggravated assault exists, therefore racialism is justified. I think you missed something in step 2.

    • chezami

      Yes, that latest example of a bogeyman certainly does justify a white supremacist ideology.

  • Mark S. (not for Shea)

    2 questions:
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    1.) Is this the same commentator who assured the nation a few months ago that both Santa Claus and Jesus are white?
    .
    2.) Why do we keep using the word WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant)? Have you ever met a non-white Anglo Saxon? In hopes of eliminating redundancy, shouldn’t they be ASPs?

    • Rosemarie

      +J.M.J+

      To answer your first question, no, that was Megyn Kelly. Kelly is not a mere “Fox News contributor”; she is the host of The Kelly File.

      • jaybird1951

        Megyn was broadly correct about Santa Claus and Jesus. The Semites are I believe, a branch of the Caucasian human family of peoples while Santa Claus is a Dutch invention based on an actual Greek bishop. Semites do not resemble Swedes and other northern Europeans like Anglo-Saxons but they are ‘Caucasians.’ If I am incorrect about that, let me know.

        • Rosemarie

          +J.M.J+

          I think Semites generally qualify as Caucasians. Though since Middle Easterners tend to have a more olive skin tone, IMHO Jesus had the same. He would not qualify as “white” by the standards of a klansman, for instance. (I’m not saying Kelly is in the KKK, just using an example of a person who may judge “whiteness.”)

          EDIT: As for St. Nicholas/Santa Claus, what you said is true. Historically, Santa has been generally portrayed as white. Though I’m personally not bothered by the idea of a “black Santa.” If an African-American man wants to make kids happy at Christmastime that way, no problem.

    • PalaceGuard

      All Anglo Saxons are “white”, but not all “whites” are Anglo Saxon. There are historical reasons for that precise phrase, whatever baggage it may carry.

      • Mark S. (not for Shea)

        So if all Anglo-Saxons are white, why do we have to call them White Anglo Saxons? Can’t we just call them Anglo Saxons? Hwaet!

  • Rosemarie

    +J.M.J+

    A “Fox News contributor” is someone whom the network occasionally calls upon to offer an opinion or participate in a discussion or debate. I have seen numerous “contributors” on Fox News (FNC) – conservative, liberal, and anywhere in-between – though I don’t remember ever seeing this Sandy Rios. That’s not to say that she isn’t a contributor, just that I don’t remember her. Contributors are only on occasionally.

    The article you link to says she is a Fox News contributor, but it doesn’t actually say that she expressed this opinion on FNC. If you follow the link on that page to the original story (which is on Right Wing Watch) you’ll find that they don’t even mention FNC:

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rios-african-americans-are-only-racists-thanks-obama

    It only mentions American Family Radio, run by the American Family Association.

    So I could be wrong, but I don’t think she actually said this on FNC. In which case her boneheaded statement did not come “from the propaganda organ of the Party of Personal Responsibility.” Then again, for all I know the program might have been broadcast on Fox News Radio, which I never listen to.

    • jaybird1951

      You are correct. She actually works for American Family Radio and did not make those comments on Fox News. I do not recall her either. The FNC reference was injected to make a political point and Mark fell for it as he often does, unfortunately. Sometimes I think he has a program on his PC where he can call up a stock phrase (e.g. Fox News etc.) and insert it in one of his headlines. Sort of Pavlovian.

  • Stu

    Seems to me what she may be trying to say is that racism isn’t something only white people engage in and that bad behavior by any one group often elicits the same bad behavior in return. It’s an explanation, not an excuse.

    If that is not what she meant to say, then it should have been.

    • Dan C

      Is that what you want to be the claim, that the responsibility for one’s racism can be blamed on another? What happened to personal responsibility? Isn’t this the “society caused me to do this” theme?

      • Stu

        Read again what I wrote. Then comment. Focus on the sentence containing the word “excuse.”

        • Dan C

          I did. Hence I asked questions.

        • Dan C

          Because you leave the possibility that the claim to victimhood with no judgement.

          • The Deuce

            So you’re blaming your tendentious misinterpretation of Stu’s post on Stu *not making it impossible* for you to interpret it that way? And in the course of complaining about blame-shifting? Oh, the irony.

          • Stu

            No, I don’t. I just speak of human nature and cycles of bad behavior. They feed on each other when people don’t take the high road.

            • Dan C

              But, then there is a “society/circumstance/etc caused me to do it.”

              • Stu

                Please refresh my memory. I can’t find where I wrote or advocated any of that.

                • Dan C

                  You are not advocating an excuse. Just , to paraphrase the chicken dinner winner: cause and effect.

                  The behavior was caused by someone else’s bad behavior. You used the term “elicits,” somewhat like someone else’s bad behavior drew the new bad behavior out of me .

                  Again, not excused. But described.

                  • Dan C

                    And I say, to clarify, that this is the “someone caused me to do it.” What is the distinction and where are we confused?

                    • Stu

                      Bad behavior by one towards another does often elicit the same in return. Do you deny this?

                      Feuds have gone on for decades because of this reality. It’s no excuse for bad behavior nor shifting of the blame but rather recognition of our fallen nature.

      • The Deuce

        It’s noting cause and effect, not shifting blame.

        • Stu

          Winner,winner…Chicken Dinner.

  • Irenist

    I think I (at least ought to) speak for Irish and Irish-American Catholics everywhere when I say that “any alleged Anglo-Saxon racism is the fault of its uppity victims” is NOT an argument for which we have great affection. I’ll be over here watching “Gangs of New York” and throwing darts at a picture of Cromwell if you need me….


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