The Perplexing Problem of Women in the Church

problem of women in the church cartoon by nakedpastor david hayward
“Women in the Church” (by nakedpastor David Hayward)

What do you do when you have women on one hand who are every bit equal to men but the bible on the other hand that says they are not?

Don’t let your left hand know what you’re right hand is doing?

If your right hand offends you cut it off?

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  • My old church liked women in the following ways:
    1. Virginal young school-age daughters of other church members
    2. Young and married and trying to have kids so they could be raised in the church
    3. Married with kids entered into the Sunday school program for proper indoctrination
    3. Older and married (or widowed) that could be good role models for the younger women to get their kids in the Sunday School programs.
    It was all about growing the church and for that they needed women.

  • Al Cruise

    The reality is, it is the separation of Church and state and having a secular legal system in the west, that give women the rights they have here. If the male run fundamentalist Churches could have power and influence in the legal system it would be very different for women here. Because of our legal system and free speech they can’t get away with what they would like to see in place regarding women.

  • Pat68

    Yeah, that’s how some people approach women leaders: What do we do with it? Well, boys, first of all, recognize that I’m a human being just like you and treat me as such. Secondly, don’t be threatened by my knowledge or intellect. Third, allow me to sit at the table with you.

  • I keep telling (and writing to) people that the problem completely dissolves if one views the Bible as one religious book among others:

    And David, frankly speaking conservative Evangelicals (and Catholics) are almost the only ones who view women as second-class Christians nowadays. Or am I a bit too optimistic?

  • Alex Grabb

    To simply say the bible doesn’t say women are not equal to men seems silly to me. I’ve read a lot of evangelical, even conservative bloggers and authors who would say that the bible raises women far above their normal status in the social contexts that it was written. If find a lot of these cartoons are characatures of far right fundies who don’t represent a large number of Christians who can think for them selves. They just happen to have loud obnoxious leaders who say a lot of stupid things.

  • By the way, theologian Roger Olson has written a very provocative and witty post about another kind of danger:

    Both of us are apparently willing to get stoned :=)

  • klhayes

    “Cover it up, tell it that it is a second-class citizen, give it some value by telling them how they should be a good wife and mother and make sure it keeps quiet!”