Why Mark Driscoll Could Never Be One of the Wise Men

mark driscoll baby jesus cartoon by nakedpastor david hayward
“Mark Driscoll and Baby Jesus” (by nakedpastor David Hayward)

I can’t make this stuff up.

Mark Driscoll has said, “I cannot worship a guy I can beat up.” Recently he asks in a post, Is God a Pacifist?, and the answer is, well, in a nutshell, no! Jesus is not a pansy or a pacifist. So don’t mess with him. Merritt’s post Mark Driscoll’s Pansy Post Outrages Christian Pacifists is a good survey of the bloody battlefield.

I guess I have to go back and read the gospels again. I got it all wrong.

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  • Chester McMackin

    Please let me know if you receive this. Have not been able to reach the site lately.

  • klhayes

    Driscoll won’t or can’t grow up. And as a result, he says things like this.

  • wanderer

    Wow, what a sad little insecure man he must be. And who taught him only bullies deserve respect? Seems to be his perspective.

  • René

    What a dumbass.

  • Phil Parmelee

    Jesus was no doubt the strongest person ever. He had the strength to defy spiritual authorities and “hang out” with people whom many others thought were the “dregs” of society. He would not engage others on THEIR terms, but on HIS. He had the strength to see people prophetically, and not by what He saw in the moment. He had the strength to treat people compassionately and not with any “knee jerk” reactions He might have been tempted with. He had the strength to face Calvary………..alone!

  • It is just the fundi belief that might makes right. Whatever God says (in the bible) you just have to suck up and accept and call it good or God will f**k with you after you die. And anyone that you can beat up can’t f**k with you so therefore for these beliefs to be true, you won’t be able to beat-up God. Fundi logic.

  • R Vogel

    Nyah, nyah, My G*d can beat up your G*d! 😉

  • So the only one worthy of worship is the toughest bully no one can beat up? That just sounds weird.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    What’s terrifying is that this statement highlights the “god” so many people worship – a bully that no one can beat up.

  • I used to believe in a God like that, but now I believe in the Father.

  • Ian

    Yeah, but you have to understand that Driscoll’s model of Fatherhood is a model of Alpha-male masculinity, and beating, sorry disciplining, your kids is definitely part of that.

  • I do not believe it serves Christianity well to give credence to someone
    who distorts the gospels, even by making fun of him in a cartoon, it
    just gives him credibility with a certain niche group and encourages his
    followers to believe in his distorted view. One should also not
    say anything bad about another person, even in humor.

  • Yeah, there are plenty of others like that as well.

  • Jeannie Boen

    Sometimes it’s fun to get my armchair Freud on and analyze Driscoll. That guy is full of so many issues.

  • Alan Molineaux

    I am not sure you are correct here Stephen. There are far too many people who think that Driscoll is correct when saying such nonsense. There are also too many well-meaning people who say nothing.

    Just think about the implication through church history of what you are suggesting (not saying bad about another person….).

    We need people like David to show such statements for what they are – a misrepresentation of the gospel. Sometimes we have to use words other tines a cartoon works best.

  • Yep I see it. Thanks Chester!

  • Steve

    Driscoll is a douchebag.

  • Worthless Beast

    Aw. This saddens me as a fan of badass pacifists. You know, the guys in fiction (and in life) who can kick your tail seven ways but more violent-minded people wouldn’t know it because these guys would rather let someone beat them up than to throw a punch and betray their principles. Sometimes, a person scrapping to fight is *just not worth throwing a punch.* Being a peaceful person isn’t about wimpiness, it’s about restraint.

  • You are right! Strong does not necessarily mean intimidating or aggressive.

  • My point exactly Alan. There is a whole generation who think that he is someone to follow. To ignore him and talk about the ‘Good News’ is always going to be better than trading insults. To ignore him also undermines his credibility and marginalizes his form of belief.

    By the way, the history of the church would have been different if we could have acted more lovingly towards others, staying in right relationship with each other, no crusades, no inquisition, no slavery, should I go on?

  • You have a really good series of points Stephen. In fact I agree with you, but at times a person needs to be called out especially it they claim to represent true Christianity and have a large following.

  • Alan Molineaux

    I don’t think I could disagree more. It is the silence of good people that allowed those things to happen.

    Ignoring misogyny, homophobia, and misuse of scripture does not make people like Mark less influential but more. There are thousands of people in ordinary evangelical churches that think he is saying something mainstream. They will continue to do so unless people stand up and offer a critique. We need to say that his view of manhood and other subjects is not the only way to view it. To say nothing means we are guilty by our silence. Just as much as those who didn’t own slaves but refused to speak out were guilty.

    Does that help. Al

  • Al, note I did not say be silent, just rather than speak bad of someone chose to share the Good News. If people had spread the Good News more then people would have been more aware of how wrong misogyny, homophobia, and many other issues are. We should work out how to generate greater interest in our churches so that more people can share the Good News that God loves them. Unconditionally.

  • ThomasAllynWilson

    I’m surprised I missed this one yesterday some how. I doubt there is anything fundamentalists can see that will surprise me any more. Besides it’s almost the season for the fruitcakes to begin showing up. I’ve got a new name for them now FRUITCAKEamentalists.

  • Calling someone out can be done by sharing the Good News and letting others compare for themselves. At the end of the day churches like the one this particular pastor represents have a turnover of 50% every two years, which means that if you visited his church every two years you would only find 50% of the people had been there before. One question is where do they go next? Another might be how can that choice be influenced by the Good News?

  • LessThanLucid

    Now, now. Don’t besmirch the good name of fruitcake.