Black Friday

No shopping. Just lots of leaves and the sorts of errands one has to run before going to one’s wife’s 25th high school reunion in the evening.

Hope your Black Friday was more enjoyable. Have an open thread and some Mumford. (Left Behind will resume next Friday.)


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  • flat

    what No left behind friday.

    This truly is BLACK friday

  • esmerelda_ogg

     Oh, give the man a break – this is a holiday weekend, after all. ;-D

  • flat

    by the way.


  • ReverendRef

    I’m not too good at doing the linking thing (no, I do not have mad computer skillz), but I thought I’d give this a try because this is always worth listening to on or around Thanksgiving.

    Have some pumpkin pie and enjoy.

  • Randy Owens

    What the others may have overlooked is that your URL is for embedding, not linking.  So, to really do it right, you have to take the hash-up* after the “/embed/” part, and put it after a “”, so you end up with this:
    <a href=””></a&gt;

    * probably not a real word; I just made it up for the semi-random hash part of the URL.

  • Marc Mielke
    Think you might have been overthinking it. Just copy the link and stick it in the post screen.

  • aunursa

    Bailey sat back down. “To tell you the truth, when I first took the call from the guy at Seaboard, I thought he was calling for a reference on you, Cameron. I was thinking, if I lose both these turkeys the same. week, I’m taking early retirement.

    Can we get that stuff out of the way, before I make Plank tell me what else he knows?”
    “Yeah, that’s it,” Plank joined in. “I’m Williams’s boss from the Weekly!”
    “Sure you are,” a plainclothesman said, stuffing him into an unmarked car.”

    “You think I don’t know you squashed my last request?”
    “I didn’t exactly squash it. I just said—”
    “You might as well have.”

    On the screen, pilgrims swooned as they neared the bier, graced by Nicolae in his glory.

    Tsion knew that praying was figuratively boldly approaching the throne, but he had never felt such a physical proximity to the creator God. Knees sliding back, palms forward, he lay prostrate, his forehead pressing into the musty carpet, nose mashed flat.

    Spontaneously, the crowd at Teddy Kollek Stadium stood as Tsion’s voice rose and fell. Buck held Chloe tight and wanted to shout amen as Tsion thundered on. “They will cry with a loud voice, saying, ‘Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!’
    “The angels around the throne will fall on their faces and worship God, saying, ‘Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, thanksgiving and honor and power and might, be to our God forever and ever. Amen.’ ”

    I am tired of pompous so-called prophecies, of gloom and doom, and of pie in the sky by and by!

  • Ann Unemori

    Should have hit “Dislike”, this is so groan-worthy :-), and far too good for the likes of our two favorite worst authors.

    Guess I really am a godless commie, didn’t do my good Amurican duty by getting up at 2am and going to get trampled as I go bankrupt at Walmart buying electronic crap that will just break two days after Christmas.FWIW, my grandmother always used to call Good Friday “Black Friday”, referring to the Crucifixtion; she could never see anything “good” about the death of Christ. 

  • ReverendRef

    Well, dang . . . THAT didn’t work.  If anyone can tell me how to link to another site, I’d appreciate it.  I’m on my way out the door for a few days at the beach, so I’ll look for your tips later.

  • esmerelda_ogg

     Linking to another site – here’s how:

    First, go to the site you want, highlight the address (it should be in a little window near the top of the screen), and copy it (click Edit – Copy, or hold down the Ctrl key and press C). Then go to the Comment window and type the following*

    * Note:  where I typed THE ADDRESS YOU COPIED? Of course, you want to replace that with, well, the address you copied. To plug in the correct address, at that point either click Edit – Paste or hold down the Ctrl key and press V.

  • P J Evans

    I think you want [a href=”url”] text [/a], with the usual angle brackets around it.
    For this the URL should start with ‘’.

  • The_L1985

    Try &lta href= “website location”&gt Link Text &lt/a&gt

    Replace “Link Text” with what you want people to click on, and Website Location with the place you’re sending them. Make sure the website address is in quotation marks, though, or it won’t work.

  • Tricksterson

    Anyone who goes shopping on Black friday is a masochist.  And where did that term come from anyway?

  • Michael Pullmann

     Which one, Black Friday or masochist? Black Friday comes from financial terminology; as the biggest shopping day of the year, it’s what most retail outlets count on to be “in the black”. As for masochist, Google tells me it’s from the name of an Austrian novelist who was famously a sexual submissive. (And yes, I know submissiveness isn’t the same as wanting to be hurt; take it up with Richard von Krafft-Ebing, who coined the term).

  • Tricksterson

    Black Friday.

  • Chris

    The “in the black” explanation of Black Friday was made up by someone’s marketing department after the name came to the attention of the general public.  It, like various other Black Days Of The Week, was originally a negative term.  The most plausible origin I’ve read for it had the term created by traffic cops, then spreading among retail workers.

  • P J Evans

     And for that matter, most of the places with really good sales numbers for ‘black Friday’ have lower numbers for the last month of the year.

  • The_L1985

    I’ve been thinking of going the homemade route this year, since I’ve learned new baking tricks. Most of my store-bought gifts were already home waiting to be wrapped by Thanksgiving. Mom actually bought some of my gifts right in front of me at the mall.

  • Invisible Neutrino

    I have always thought it a bit odd that a “Black Friday” should be named for a shopping date, when “Black Thursday” happens to be named for the Crash of 1929, and the Crash of 1987, “Black Monday”.

  • stardreamer42

     That’s an urban legend. Think about it — if you had a store that ran in the red 11 months out of the year, how long would you be in business?

    “Black Friday” originates not from the 1% but from the people on the front lines — the clerks in retail stores, and the police who have to direct traffic around major shopping centers. For them, it is “Black Friday” — a nightmare, the worst and most exhausting day of the year. Nor do the profits it makes for the 1% ever “trickle down” to the people doing the actual work.

  • cjmr

    Actually, went I went after 1 p.m. to do my regular errands, the stores were fully staffed, no more busy than an average weekend day, and all the employees were friendly and pleasant.  I was amazed!

  • P J Evans

     I understand that they’d opened early enough that in most areas the people who had to be first in line had already finished shopping and gone home by the time the sun came up.

  • The_L1985

    Mornings are killer, and it’s always worst in shopping malls. I had no trouble at all getting groceries–everybody else must have been in the toy stores or something.

  • The_L1985

    Probably retail workers–for whom it is a dark day indeed.

  • cjmr

    Yes.  Black Friday is pretty bleak from the employee side.

    It’s been forever since I worked retail, but there were two years in a row when I closed shop Wednesday night, cooked all day Thursday, got up at 3 a.m. to hit the stores myself Friday morning before our store opened, and then worked (cashier) 9 to 6.  Back in the dark ages when only one store opened before 4 a.m. and that was Walmart.

  • Lunch Meat

    We are really thankful this Thanksgiving–my great uncle (73 years old with cognitive/memory problems) went missing on Tuesday and was found this morning! Hope everyone else’s Thanksgiving is as blessed as ours is!

  • Jenny Islander

    Since this is an open thread, I’m trying to find a blog that was started by a musician specializing in CCM who fell in love with a daughter of a patriarchal, Dominionist family and endured being jerked around by her father’s power games for months before being dumped on the grounds that he would not agree that her father farted ice cream and everybody outside the family was headed for Hell.  After he had purged the abscess of his grief and anger, he went on to articles about patriarchal theology, Christian dominionism, etc.

  • Jenora Feuer

    Arrg, I’m pretty sure I know what you’re referring to, and I remember reading some of that many months back…  was linked to from Libby Anne’s ‘Love, Joy, Feminism’ blog at one point.  But I can’t for the life of me remember any more specific details just yet, at least not ones useful for search terms.

  • Jenora Feuer

     Found it.  Commandments of Men.  The whole bit about the time with his girlfriend is under The Joke Was On Me.

  • LoneWolf343

  • Invisible Neutrino

    I just paste the URL verbatim when I’m too lazy to a href it.

  • Katie

    Thanks for linking to that blog.  I read it some time ago, and the entire story was incredibly sad. 
    Its also a perfect illustration of why that kind of Quiverfull, Dominionist crazy is going to have a hard time lasting very long.  When every family is pretty much its own cult, trying to find someone suitable, especially for the daughters, is almost impossible.

  • Tricksterson

    Yeah, the fanatics greatest weakness IMHGO is their hostility towards other sincere but sane Christians.

  • Marc Mielke

    Awhile back, I *THINK* it was on this blog’s comment sections, there was this great speech attributed to the dragon Smaug about the accumulation of wealth, rather obviously as an allegory for the 1%.

    Anyone know what I’m talking about, or did that happen in the alt-universe? I hate it when that happens.

  • Jenny Islander

    Here you go:


    Once the worm-laid egg shattered in the wood.I came forth shining into the trembling wood;The sun was on my scales, dew upon, the grasses.The cold, sweet grasses and the sticky leaves,I loved my speckled mate. We played at druery [marriage]And sucked warm milk dropping from the ewes’ teats.Now I keep watch on the gold in my rock caveIn a country of stones; old, deplorable dragon,Watching my hoard. In winter night the goldFreezes through tough scales my cold belly;Jagged crowns, cruelly twisted rings,Icy and knobb’d, are the old dragon’s bed.Often I wish I had not eaten my wife(Though worm grows not to dragon till he eats worm).She could have helped me, watch and watch about,Guarding the gold; the gold would have been safer.I could uncoil my tired body and takeSometimes a little sleep when she was watching.Last night under the moonset a fox barked,Startled me; then I knew I had been sleeping.Often an owl flying over the country of stonesStartles me; then I think that I must have slept,Only a moment. That very moment a ManMight have come from the towns to steal my gold.They make plots in the towns to take my gold,They whisper of me in the houses, making plans,Merciless men. Have they not ale upon the benches,Warm wives in bed, and song, and sleep the whole night?I leave my cave once only in the winterTo drink at the rock pool; in summer twice.They have no pity for the old, lugubrious dragon.Lord that made the dragon, grant me thy peace,But say not that I should give up the gold,Nor move, nor die. Others would have the gold.Kill rather, Lord, the Men and the other dragons;Then I can sleep; go when I will to drink.

                                                            –C.S. Lewis

    If the headnote, which may have been added by an editor, is correct, this is a piece of fanfic in poem format: C.S. Lewis ficcing for his friend J.R.R. Tolkien.  And, yes, I’m the one who suggested it as an allegory for the 1 Percent.  A lot of them seem to have dragon sickness.

    @LoneWolf: Thanks for the link!

  • Jenny Islander

    Fraggit, it looked like a conventional blank verse poem when I set it up!  

  • Marc Mielke

    Thanks! Does it count as fanfic if the author is as famous as the original author AND they were close friends? I don’t know what else I’d call it — commentary, I guess. There’s a lot of that among the authors commonly associated with H.P.Lovecraft. 

  • Tricksterson

    You now have me fantasizing what a story collaboration between C.S. Lewis and H. P. Lovecraft or J. R. R. Tolkien and Robert E. Howard would look like, especially the llatter. Feel free to switch the partnerships. 

  • Marc Mielke

    I’d like to see what Lewis might say about the complete indifference of the universe and insignificance of mankind depicted in HPL’s work. HPL did carry on a long correspondence with a fairly learned Christian, with each good-naturedly trying to convert the other. It would probably end up like that (see: )

    Tolkien and Howard…that’s a good fit. A lot of Howard’s fantasy could take place a thousand years after the Third Age, amidst the ruins of legendary empires and strange races no longer known to man. 

  • Ann Unemori

    Now I’m just musing on what a Lewis-Lovecraft crossover would be like.
    Aslan vs Cthulhu, anyone?

  • chris the cynic

    Now I’m just musing on what a Lewis-Lovecraft crossover would be like.Aslan vs Cthulhu, anyone?

    Well, if I were to write it, it would be a continuation of “Work against the Emperor’s magic?

    Quick except:

    “Work against the Emperor’s Magic?” said Aslan, turning to her with something like a frown on his face. Those who heard were shocked at Aslan’s tone, for it contained something they had never heard from him before: Uncertainty.

    “Perhaps we could discuss this in private,” Susan whispered. Aslan nodded. Susan addressed the witch, “We’ll have to confer privately. We’ll get right back to you.”

    As soon as they were inside the tent Susan said, “You’ll have to excuse me, I don’t understand the Deep Magic.”

    “No one does,” Aslan said.

    “No, I mean I don’t even understand the basics. I don’t even know why it’s called the Deep Magic.”

    “Because it comes from the depths.”


    Aslan pointed with one paw, slightly downward, in a direction nothing seemed to be in, “If you were to go straight that way you would travel first through a short span of air, then a mile of earth, then you would meet the sea, if you continued until you had moved beyond the sea you would find yourself in my father’s realm, a place of neither earth nor air, nor fire nor water. It is from those depths that my father, the Emperor, rules this world.”

    Obviously there’s more if you click the link, but not enough more that you ever get to the vs. section.

    Written a little under a year ago it looks like.

  • Tricksterson

    Oh, this needs to be continued.  And i love that Susan, who gets Left Behind in the books is portrayed as the heroine.

  • Tricksterson

    Or, if you want to get really funky, a Cthulhu story written by Lewis (or Tolkien), A Narnia story wriiten by Lovecraft (or Howard), a Middle Earth story wriiten by Howard (or Lovecraft) and a Conan story written by Tolkien (or Lewis).

  • Marc Mielke

    Tolkien would be an interesting match with the Cthulhu Mythos. I could envision him establishing and fleshing out the various alien languages in a more scholarly manner.
    I strongly suspect some of the mythos authors (Lumley, Campbell, Lin Carter) simply had their cat walk across the typewriter to come up with names. 

  • Tricksterson

    I don’t know how their  (Howard and Tolkien) personalities would fit though.  the English don and the self educated Texan

  • Marc Mielke

    Appropriately, that’s exactly how I envision the two author’s characters interacting too! I think Conan and Elrond would be the most amusing in that vein. 

  • Jeff Dickey

    Tolkien/Howard would be nicely intellectually stimulating, I think. Lewis/Lovecraft would be like the old egg-frying “this is your brain” scare PSAs. (Did anybody ever publish on how ineffective those were? “This is your brain” was the punch line of many a joke in my middle school, high school and university years.)

  • Jessica_R

    I had to work an overnight from 8:45 to 5:15 this morning, and then come back from 1:30-6:00, amazingly it was not all that bad. I shouldn’t have to had work overnight in the first place, but in my years in the various circles of Retail Hell I’ve had much, much worse Black Fridays. 

    I’m kinda fried at the moment so a Hickory Farms Sampler of links. 

    A not quite good musical I’ve got a weak spot for, cause I love Christmas.

    A quite good TV special that has a song that always makes my heart feel that sweet melancholy of winter.

    And finally one of my fave episodes ever, “Oh I suppose Hell got an NEA grant!”

  • josh barkey

    Now, wait just a cotton-pickin’… did you just read my?? What? (stomps off smiling, feeling pleased with himself).

  • Hummingwolf

    A few days back I told a friend of mine that the only mall I was willing to go to on Black Friday was the National Mall, so today we met up at the Smithsonian Metro Station and went wandering around museums. I didn’t do anything special on Thanksgiving (didn’t even eat any turkey!), so doing something fun today (and eating a turkey sandwich in the cafe of the National Museum of the American Indian) finally put me in a holiday mood.

    Helpful information for anyone who might ever be in the vicinity of Washington, DC on a holiday:
    The following is a list of all the days the Smithsonian museums are scheduled to be closed:
    December 25.

    And now, the much longer list of all days the National Gallery of Art is scheduled to be closed:
    January 1
    December 25.

    Clearly, this is part of that War on Christmas we’ve all heard about.

  • stardreamer42
  • Amaryllis

    “Christianity, white men, heterosexuality, meritocracy, Christmas. These are the relics of a distant culture. Let’s not kid ourselves.”


    It’s been a difficult few days, so, thanks for pointing me toward that laugh.

  • Carstonio

    “Heathens” is an ugly word in the extreme and has no place in the discussion. And since when is “anti-authoritarianism” a bad thing, unless the lawyer wrongly assumes that it’s the same as anti-authority?

  • Tricksterson

    Ubnless you’re a northern tradition pagan.  They seek to reclaim the word much like Wiccans do “witch”

  • Lori

    Can you really reclaim a word that always had a negative connotation? 

  • Madhabmatics

    Tricksterson is right, heathen is the preferred nomenclature for a bunch of germanic pagan groups.

  • Lori

    I wasn’t suggesting that Tricksterson was mistaken about what they prefer to be called. I was simply questioning the goal of “reclaiming” a word that has always been negative.

    I refer to myself as a heathen from time to time, in the sense of being not a Christian, Jew or Muslim and with no small amount of snark and irony implied. I don’t think of myself as “reclaiming” anything though. Refusing to be cowed by the term, yes. Reclaiming, no. 

  • Michele Cox

     To the best of my knowledge, the level of “negativity” implied by either “heathen” or “pagan” was basically the level implied by “hick” — someone who’s not a with-it city-dwelling modern.  Which, admittedly, is generally used as a slur, but it’s not exactly “fightin’ words” levels of insult.  –And given that people using the words Pagan or Heathen to describe their religious practices are more often than not nature- and/or family- focused more than city-focused, it seems not-inappropriate.

  • Tricksterson

    It’s worked, to a certain extent, with pagan.

  • Lori

    Good point.

  • Carstonio

    I’m undecided about attempts to attach new meanings to hateful words, or to reclaim words that have acquired hateful meanings. The objective itself is certainly laudable, but would the efforts be better directed at the ideas behind the hateful meanings? Isn’t the real problem that people like Becker view non-Christians as less than full Americans no matter what labels he uses?

  • Ann Unemori

    For that matter, how about “antidisestablishmentarianism”?

  • Jeff Dickey

    Wouldn’t that be old-fashioned “establishmentarianism”? Or am I missing something, three weeks on?

  • EllieMurasaki

    Wiktionary has an entry for ‘antidisestablishmentarianism’ but not for ‘establishmentarianism’, so.

    (Huh. Antidisestablishmentarianism is basically opposition to the separation of church and state. Particularly in nineteenth century England, but it applies generally too. Learn something new every day.)

  • Albanaeon

    I actually broke my “NO BLACK FRIDAY” rule today.  It was surprisingly painless.   Of course it was late afternoon/evening so the truly erm… motivated people were long gone.  

  • Chris Hadrick

    interview with guy from Hostess Bakers Union on CNBC (obviously)

  • Lori

    The video in the link won’t open for me. Is it the one where the Hostess employee explains how the company stole the workers’ pension and why they turned down the huge pay cut the company wanted them to take (while paying the CEO a huge bonus) or the later one where they brought in the anti-union lobbyist to talk over him?

    If people want to see the segment where the Hostess employee actually gets to talk or if they’d like to hear an extended interview where he explains what’s been going on over the last few years between Hostess and the union, they can find the links here:

  • Michael Pullmann

    Well, I guess I learned something new today. (Although I love how my repeating the version I always heard somehow morphed into me being a Randroid propagandist. Oh, Internet; never change.)

  • Chris Hadrick

    Lori- same interview (first one) 

    edit: that second one was corny. Caruso Cabrera > Bartiromo

  • Invisible Neutrino

    You surprise me. I would have fully expected you to trot out the interview with one of the CEOs and/or their spokesthingies in which they rationalize grabbing millions for themselves while stiffing the workers and then blaming the union.

    Sad thing is, all the nasty assholes probably have to do is blame the union for nobody getting Twinkies anymore and that’s all people will hear.

  • P J Evans

     Maybe Bimbo Bakeries will buy the brands. They already own a bunch of familiar names.

  • Tricksterson

    Bimbo Bakeries?  Really?

  • Lori

     Are you asking if such a thing actually exists or if it’s realistic to think they might acquire the Hostess brands?

    If you meant the former then yes, that’s really a thing:

    If you meant the latter then IDK. Some of the Hostess items may simply no longer sell enough to be worth it, but it seems like some of them would be.

  • P J Evans

     Some of the comments I’ve seen have been along the lines of ‘if they went back to the old recipes, it would be really great’.

  • Lori

    That could be a good marketing approach for someone to take. Something along the lines of really bringing back the treats you remember from your childhood.

  • Jamoche

    Really. It’s originally a Mexican brand, where the name doesn’t mean anything.

  • Ann Unemori

    That name has just made my day!

  • Lori


    Sad thing is, all the nasty assholes probably have to do is blame the
    union for nobody getting Twinkies anymore and that’s all people will

    This is pretty clearly the plan. They’ve been suffering from declining sales and poor management for years now, the latter making the former impossible to correct or compensate for. Once it became clear that they were going to close they wanted to deflect the blame for running the company into the ground so they purposefully  made the union an offer that they wouldn’t accept so that blame could be shifted onto the workers.

  • P J Evans

     Oh, they’ve been run into the ground for years, since the private-equity people who bought Hostess discovered that maintaining the equipment and the delivery trucks cuts into their profits. They loaded all the debt they could find onto it (including the pension funding and the healthcare plans for the employees) and raised their own salaries, before they filed for bankruptcy this time.

  • Lori

     Yeah, it’s depressing. I still have no idea why the ‘steal the workers’ self-funded pension” maneuver isn’t illegal.

    That’s not really right, because obviously I do know. The rich people who benefit from stealing worker pensions use part of the money to buy lawmakers. Let me rephrase. The ‘steal the workers’ self-funded pension” maneuver is bullshit and ought to be illegal. And not small time illegal either, but the kind of illegal that results in doing serious time at a facility which can not in any way be described as “club Fed”.

  • Marc Mielke

    How did this self-funding work? If the pensions didn’t use company money, why did the company have any access to the fund at all? I may be misunderstanding the term.

  • Invisible Neutrino

    Wrecking companies because they’re wreckable has a long and sad history :(

  • Zippy

    Hey —
    Open thread fun: what the Ringwraiths were doing before the War of the Ring:
    PREVIEW: The Fellowship of the Ringwraiths
    Fellowship of the Ringwraiths
    and the finished project:
    the Fellowship of the Ringwraiths
     Fellowship of the Ringwraiths

  • Chris Hadrick

    Michelle Caruso Cabrera who did that interview posted it on twitter saying it was her favorite interview she had ever done or something.  

    bottom line with Hostess is people aren’t putting Twinkies in their kids lunches or making their sandwiches with wonder bread anymore.  No amount of union capitulation or private equity leverage can change that.

  • Chris Hadrick
  • aunursa

    I don’t understand what all the fuss is about.  Why doesn’t Congress simply nationalize the Hostess company and declare that every American has a fundamental right to Twinkies and Ho Hos?

  • EllieMurasaki

    The fuck are you on about?

  • Charity Brighton

    It’s a nice idea, but the guy we had who was good at acquiring struggling companies and looting their assets didn’t win our last election. 

  • Invisible Neutrino

    As much as I like twinkies, I can’t say I have an urgent desire to buy them. I seem to even recall there are competing generic brands that taste about the same and cost less.

    And that’s a big twinkie. :P

  • Jon Maki

    I generally preferred the Little Debbie version of Twinkies to the original.  The actual Hostess cupcakes, however, were superior to all other alternatives.

    Given my diabetes*, the availability of Hostess snacks has no real impact on me; my biggest concern in all of this is that there will be no way to stop supervillains from succeeding in their evil schemes.

    *Last check up showed that my A1C is actually in the normal, not even pre-diabetic range.  Some would say that I’m actually cured, but that doesn’t mean that I’m going back to my old habits.  Sometime after I was first diagnosed, I found some low-carb versions of Hostess snacks that were surprisingly good, and they helped ease the transition towards healthier eating.  Naturally, because I was buying them regularly, the stores in the area stopped selling them shortly after I found them.

  • Lori


    The actual Hostess cupcakes, however, were superior to all other alternatives.   

    I have to disagree with you there. Tastykakes are the best.

    Last check up showed that my A1C is actually in the normal, not even pre-diabetic range.   

    Applause! Applause!

    Good for you. I know how much work went into that and I’m very impressed.

  • Charity Brighton

    I get the impression that most super crime is caused by Twinkies and other Hostess snacks, so honestly I think it’s a net positive for our society when it comes to villainy.

  • Lori

    So, speaking of tasty foods—did anyone have anything new at Thanksgiving this year that was particularly yummy?

    We had Thanksgiving with my sister’s in-laws* and one of my BIL’s nephews brought this amazing cabbage salad that I hadn’t ever had before. He apparently got the recipe from some older German man he knows and it was so good. I know there was bacon in it and caraway seeds, but I’m not sure what else was in that dressing. I’m going to get my sister to get on the family grapevine and snag the recipe because I want to have that again.

    *Not as weird as it sounds. We’ve all gotten along really well since sis and BIL got married many, many years ago so we’re all happy to do a combined holiday to cut down on the “your family or mine this year?” issue. Other members of the family have now started bringing their in-laws too so the group is getting pretty big. Between that and the babies being born pretty soon J is going to have to move to a bigger house so that we’ll have room for everyone :)

  • Dave

    This year’s variation of a dish I’ve been experimenting with for a few Thanksgivings made me pretty happy, a kind of individual-serving spicy crab-and-avocado salad.

    I start with some crabmeat (or chicken, for the semi-observant Jews at the table) marinated artichokes, minced onion, black pepper, and enough finely chopped basil and olive oil to turn the result into a chunky paste.

    Then I take ripe small avocados, peel and pit and halve them,  stuff the  halves generously with the filling, sprinkle with cider vinegar and cayenne, serve in small bowls with lime wedges.

  • B

    I think the only Black Friday sales I’ve shopped have been at Goodwill.  The Salvation Army near my parents’ house had a really good Black Friday sale this year, but we went to the art museum so I didn’t check it out.

    Otherwise it’s always seemed like WAY too much work to go through to save money on a television to me.

  • Onymous

    For those interested Targets in Austin TX opened at 9 on Thursday, and every single one of them failed to meet projected sales by at least 17% some as high as 41%

    … so expect Black Friday 2013 to be on Friday again.