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Leviticus 19:33-34

When an alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress the alien. The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

  • ReverendRef

    But . . . but . . . but . . . illegal gay alien abortifacients!!!!

  • SergeantHeretic

    No, No, No, this part of the book of Leviticus doesn’t condemn the evul uv teh gheys so it’s not relevent to modern Real True Christians. Does the Bible have anything to offer about how foreigners without proper papers are to be ground up and made into meat patties for the rich? no? well darn, that’s too bad.

  • themunck

    Clearly that passage only applies to Jews. My ancestors weren’t aliens, so I can freely ignore the passage and hate aliens.
    (In these days of Poe, I should probably point out that I’m not serious)

  • Sauls Thomas

    what’s the harm of little lying blaspheming IDI*TS!

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  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    …who are criminals who will have the guns the government pried from the cold dead hands of real true patriots!

  • Amaryllis

    Wandering around the Albuquerque Airport Terminal, after learning my
    flight had been delayed for four hours, I heard an announcement: “If
    anyone in the vicinity of Gate A-4 understands any Arabic, please come
    to the gate immediately.”

    Well–one pauses these days. Gate A-4 was my own gate. I went there.

    She was laughing a lot by then. Telling about her life, patting my knee, answering questions. She had pulled a sack of homemade mamool
    cookies – little powdered sugar crumbly mounds stuffed with dates and
    nuts – out of her bag – and was offering them to all the women at the
    gate. To my amazement, not a single woman declined one. It was like a
    sacrament. The traveler from Argentina, the mom from California, the
    lovely woman from Laredo – we were all covered with the same powdered sugar. And smiling.

    And I looked around that gate of late and weary ones and thought, this is the world I want to live in. The shared world. Not a single person in this gate – once the crying of confusion stopped – seemed apprehensive about any other person. They took the cookies. I wanted to hug all those other women too.

    This can still happen anywhere. Not everything is lost.

    from Gate A-4, Naomi Shihab Nye

  • Matri
  • mud man

    Well of course … It was women. Whereas everbody else here is standing around being sarcastic. Which of these do you think proved to be a neighbor of the oppressed alien?

  • http://vmthecoyote.tumblr.com/post/56439695124/names-on-the-internet VMtheCoyote

    People are sarcastic because we’re so tired. For every message like the one above, I get three or four or ten from relatives telling me about how this border guard was tricked by Teh Ebil Muslims, or that Welfare Queen is gaming the system, or this Immigrant Family is taking advantage of poor innocent American tax dollars (which we shouldn’t be paying, of course, because they just go to Illegal Aliens and Welfare Queens and Evil Muslims with their Sharia Law (which is why we need to get away from a secular government and back to America’s True Christian Roots), and also the destruction of marriage through allowing Teh Gays to do their evil, culture-destroying thing, I could go on.), and these people, every single one of them, will talk about how if America hadn’t Abandoned God And The Bible, this all wouldn’t be happening, and this country wouldn’t be the moral cesspool that it is, taking money from hardworking bootstrap-yanking CEOs to give it to the undeserving.

    And you have to wonder, after a while, if we’re even talking about the same book. So yeah – sarcasm is a way of laughing at it, rather than weeping and rending one’s clothes.

  • http://shiftercat.livejournal.com/ ShifterCat

    We know it’s you, Dennis. I can’t wait until they drag you back to jail so you’ll have to quit annoying us.

  • Sauls Thomas

    and I can’t wait for ARMAGEDDON when they get rid of all the lying sh*theads!

  • mud man

    If you think I was talking about sarcastic people then you overlooked my point, Mister.

    So what part of the passage that Fred cites is worthy of your (and others’) disrespect? I think it’s a good rule, and I do believe that’s how God wants me to behave. You don’t seem to be reading what That Book says, you’re just busy reacting to selective readings that (IMO, if you like) distort its central ideals. If you’re not interested in engaging That Book on its own terms, what are you doing hanging out on a “Progressive Christian” blog??

    You want to be part of the problem, or you want to be part of the solution?? Do you want to learn what Christianity is actually about or do you just want to fling turds at the shitheads??

  • http://vmthecoyote.tumblr.com/post/56439695124/names-on-the-internet VMtheCoyote

    I must admit, I am deeply confused by your response.

    You said “everybody else here is standing around being sarcastic,” and I took that as a general condemnation of the handful of comments here generally pointing out that this fits progressive theology a lot more than it fits the current Christian Right. I apologize if that was taking offense without cause.

    So what part of the passage that Fred cites is worthy of your (and others’) disrespect? I think it’s a good rule, and I do believe that’s how God wants me to behave.

    No part! It is a good rule, and I believe that is indeed how God wants us to behave. I hope I wasn’t implying otherwise! And I am, most definitely, interested in engaging the Bible on its own terms, where I can. That’s… difficult, at times, because I do not have the knowledge or the historical background or the linguistic skills to do so fully, but it is still, I think, worth striving for.

    Do you want to learn what Christianity is actually about or do you just want to fling turds at the shitheads??

    I am reasonably sure that I will not fully understand what Christianity is actually about at any point in my lifetime, but yes, I would rather like to work towards more understanding. The thing is, I believe it is also important to note what Christianity isn’t (ie, hate, bigotry, xenophobia), and to have empathy with the victims of that awful philosophy that calls itself by the same name. And sometimes, looking at that terrible thing, you either laugh or cry. I don’t think it’s an unreasonable reaction, all the time.

  • http://vmthecoyote.tumblr.com/post/56439695124/names-on-the-internet VMtheCoyote

    (Am I the only one who wonders why he censors the word “idiot”?)

  • reynard61

    Mäybe ït’s the Tröll ëquïvalënt öf somë rappërs pütting än umläut över ëvery öther vöwel ïn theïr stagë namë…

  • Also tired

    Flinging turds at shitheads is almost the universal response to Fred’s biblical quotations here, and has been for at least a couple of years. We can’t have an interesting, reflective discussion about anything related to Christianity, and we certainly can’t engage in productive self-examination. We mock the religious expression of right wing American evangelicals, at the exclusion of all else.

  • VMtheCoyote

    That’s not fair. I have seen multiple “Sunday Favorites” threads where multiple people respond with thoughtful “This is one of my favorite Psalms” remarks, or the like.

  • Amaryllis

    And I’ve also seen “Sunday Favorites” that were strongly UN-favored by some commentors. But as for the site as a whole, I don’t see how you say there are no ” interesting, reflective discussions about anything related to Christianity.”

    I understand the impulse to sarcasm, the “if only we were living up to that” weariness. You’d think a country that prides itself on being a “nation of immigrants” would be more welcoming to, you know, immigrants.

    I know that in this story the outcome might have been different if, instead of a tearful grandmother, the confused alien had been a sullen young man.

    But I just liked the last lines. I want to live in that shared world too. I want to believe that it can still happen, that not everything is lost.


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