LIVE interview with Michael L Brown on hypergrace

LIVE interview with Michael L Brown on hypergrace June 16, 2014

Today I was joined in a web conversation by Dr Michael Brown. Our focus was  his new book Hyper-grace.

You can watch the video right here or listen to the audio. I’ve set it to start playback at 16:00, which is the point we start talking about Hyper-grace. If you do want to hear us reminiscing about how we first met as a result of the Strange Fire controversy just rewind to the beginning of the clip. Soundcloud doesn’t seem to allow me to do the same thing as far as I can tell.

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  • Mark Clemerol Castro

    The problem with Dr.Michael Brown’s view of Grace is that holiness should be earned by good works when in fact it is a gift given to us when we put our faith to the Finished work of Jesus.

  • Adrian thanxs for sharing this discussion -is this related to the question -can a Christian loose his/her salvation ?-or am I off base -just trying to get this clear in my head

    • actually just got to that bit in the talk -Dr Brown believes a Christian can loose his/her salvation -right ?

      • As an Arminian I suspect he probably does. But remember reformed believers believe that perseverance in faith and holiness is a mark that you were saved in the first place, and so in practice both camps would speak to someone who had appeared to be a christian before and now wasn’t living as one and suggest that they were probably not saved. There are important differences between Arminians and Calvinists, but these are FAR less than the differences between both and the extremes of “Hyper-grace.”

  • John Waller

    Fairly amazed that Dr Brown has never heard of the Gospel Coalition!

    The guy referenced in the video is Tullian Tchividjian (he is Billy Graham’s grandson). He was asked to leave the Coalition’s site ostensibly over the doctrinal issue of sanctification. He is suspected by some of Antinomianism which is certainly a related issue to this. Tchividjian now has his own website called Liberate & there does seem to me to be some imbalance on view there in the focus on justification at the expense of ongoing sanctification.

    I wonder how these characters handle 2 Pet 1:5-10 which seems clear enough

    • Michael L Brown

      John, I’m quite familiar with the Gospel Coalition but wasn’t clear what Adrian was referring to, especially since he didn’t have the exact name. (I thought he might be referring to Tullian, but I wasn’t sure.) Thanks, though, for your post!

      • Sorry Michael for springing it on you like that. My mind went blank for his name at the time! A real pro would have had notes… It seems to me that at the very least the Gospel Coalition folks are seeing tendencies in him that are on the same spectrum as the Hyper Grace folk. He may in fact be nowhere near the hyper grace people, but it would certainly be interesting to know what he thinks of them, and for him to outline how he differs from them if he does. I know all this can seem like quite nuanced theological discussion, but understanding grace right is surely discussing something that lies at the very heart of the gospel….

  • whalevox

    Hyper-grace becomes antinomian because it says our justification becomes sinlessness. Being positionally righteous in God’s sight is because he sees Christ’s work and not our own. If we became sinless in God’s sight why would the apostles bother to write to the brethren concerning sin? I do believe Dr. Brown has a flawed understanding of what the reformers meant by sanctification being an ongoing work. As the Spirit works in the life of a believer, he becomes convicted of sins. We learn and are led more and more into righteous behavior. This is the ongoing work of sanctification. There is the immediate work of sanctification and the ongoing work. Our ultimate sanctification will be at our resurrection.

    • whalevox

      Okay, I apologize to Dr. Brown for my misunderstanding of where you were going with that. Seems you have a proper understanding and were explaining the hyper-grace understanding and implication.