Porn is Slowly Killing Evangelicalism

Porn is Slowly Killing Evangelicalism June 12, 2018

Pornography is single-handedly one of the worst epidemics facing the Evangelical church today. There are a myriad of other factors which appear to be eroding the Western church from the inside-out, yet Evangelicals scarcely address the root of the problem of pornography within the church. On the whole, human sexuality is undergoing an existential crisis. Yet the church is placed squarely in the midst of this crisis, often not even addressing its own underlying issues until far too late. Leader after leader (after leader!) disqualifies himself through sexual misconduct, all the while the name of Christ is slandered. Lest we focus on only Evangelical leaders though, sexual misconduct, including rampant use of porn, is very much present within the laity of the church.

Researchers have shown the phenomena physically alters the structure of our brains. We even know desensitization occurs, as warped views of human sexuality increase in order to even experience sexual gratification. Furthermore, we are fully aware of the correlation between sex trafficking and the multi-billion dollar porn industry. We are also startlingly aware of the correlation between viewing pornography and committing sex-crimes. It also isn’t shocking to find that an individual engaging in private infidelity through porn is more likely to carry out the physical expression if given the opportunity, even though both result in an increased likelihood of divorce.

One might be tempted to look at these things from a purely clinical perspective, but Scriptural precedent clearly establishes a direct correlation between all forms of sexual perversion and a hatred of God and our fellow man. Yet Evangelical Christians are still participating in these deeds of darkness without much forethought to the long-term consequences. Here we stand, at the precipice of cultural, sexual anarchy, enjoying the same titillating nonsense this world so eagerly digests. What is dumbfounding to me is how we continue to see Evangelical leaders fall after allegations of sexual misconduct – yet we fail to draw the proper correlation back to the epidemic that is sexual immorality. Why? We hedge our definitions.

A Personal Excursus

I vividly remember the first time I was exposed to pornography as a child. I was seven years old. Seven. These were the days of latchkey children; both parents would be working whilst their children exercised dominion over their neighborhoods. Long summer days were filled with bike-riding, scratch games of street hockey or baseball, and the regular mischief any child gets into when they have hours of free time before mom and dad come home.

On one such day my neighbor’s children easily conned me into riding our bikes past the highway – something we were all strictly forbidden of. We made our way past the busy road, closing our eyes as we darted across lanes of traffic with “no handlebars”, and found the familiar trails we had worn bare. This time though, we took a new path, one my friends assured me would lead us to stumble upon something cool when we “got there”.

We rode for about ten minutes until we reached a small clearing the new path had taken us to. While there were many amenities for the homeless man who made this patch of grass his abode, the three I remember are the Penthouse magazine, a liter of gin, and a pack of smokes. All three of us partook in the spoils of our find – and incidentally enough, those three items which rocked our adolescence provided the fodder for a plethora of pitfalls. I was seven years old. Seven.

My son, if sinners entice you, do not yield to them (Proverbs 1:10).

While there are many object lessons bound within my own story – parents would do well not to base decisions upon fear, but rather, act with prudential foresight into the very real, ever-present devastation that sin brings. My experience was 24 years ago. I am a man now equipped to deal with the baggage and weight of sin, but then I was not. I had no clue what I was getting myself into, nor did I recognize the consequences of this folly would be so long-lasting.

I did not have a father who trained me in Scripture and pleaded with me to avoid sexual sin. I grew up in a home that glorified sexual exploits at a young age (my father was an unbeliever until my early 20’s). Thus, when I entered middle school and heard the tales of my father’s youthful indiscretions, my pre-pubescent awkwardness was at its height. I was not confident. I was not able to attract women in that manner. Of course, I didn’t quite understand, beyond a vague notion of “saving yourself for the one you love”, that this was completely unhealthy for a twelve year-old, let alone a warped view of sexuality as it were.

But, I had my old standby. Porn, though hard to come by at first, was an easy outlet for my bumbling misunderstanding of sexuality. Even though I had to be sneaky because there was this sense of privatized shame attached to it, the explosion of the internet made it easy for kids. We were learning how to use it at the same time as our parents and teachers – and we were quicker students. We could already navigate past firewalls and security filters; we could clear our browser history; we could fool adults into thinking there was nothing sketchy about our internet usage.

Quite the opposite was true though. This was a time when the internet was still relatively new – so even if you didn’t know these work-arounds, you could type in a given number of innocuous keywords that would bring up pornography as you were researching for a school paper. Anyone who grew up during this timeframe knows what I speak of. Natural curiosity implanted a sense of easy mischief, one we could feign innocence in if we got caught by the librarian simply because even when you weren’t looking for porn it turned up.

I bring this foray into my personal history up because I don’t sense my experience to be all that unique. Sure – perhaps few were introduced to a Penthouse magazine when they were seven, but those in my age group surely found themselves introduced to porn much earlier than anyone would have imagined. Yet it would be absolute folly to imagine this problem was relegated to my youth and does not affect younger (and older) generations – especially as the statistics show quite the contrary.

General Statistics

While not fully up-to-date, Pornhub’s 2017 Year in Review[1] has shown the website catered to some 28.5 billion visitors. In terms of SEO count, that’s 81 million unique visitors per day. They further boasted of 24.7 billion searches in the year, which they say translates to about 50,000 searches per minute, or 800 searches per second. If that’s not easy enough to compute – they break it down a bit more practically for readers. Incidentally, that’s the same number of burgers that McDonalds sells every second.

In one year, the hours of porn uploaded to the site translated into 68 years if watched non-stop. The staggering amount of data being used to stream the website’s data was 118 GB per second – something the article boasts is enough to fill the storage of all the world’s iPhones. Put another way: in just five minutes, Pornhub’s servers transmits more data than the entire contents of the New York Public Library’s 50 million books.

While the data is limited – it doesn’t compare any statistical data of underage users – it does clearly show the majority of users are those aged 18-34 (61%). And if you think this is just a young male’s problem – you are surely mistaken. The average proportion of women world-wide is approximately 26%, showing a steady increase from year to year in every country (save Russia). Given the rapidly increasing figures, it shouldn’t be terribly long before men and women are on equal footing. Remember, these figures are from just one porn website.

Then we can take the results of Barna’s 2016 study, which shows people do not define pornography in clear-cut terms. Rather, they define porn on the basis of the function it serves; if it is meant for arousal, its porn. Thus, most would define pornography outside of the bounds of things meant for entertainment purposes, even if the sexual depictions were graphic in nature. Keeping this in mind, the poll revealed 21% of youth pastors and 14% of pastors admit they currently struggle with pornography. Furthermore, teens and young adults overwhelmingly speak of pornography in neutral, accepting, or encouraging ways. Only 1 in 20 young adults, and 1 in 10 teens, believed viewing pornography was morally wrong.

Even more recently, we find Gallup’s study revealing the current social acceptance of pornography has grown 7% from last year, with 43% of people believing it is morally acceptable. While the isolated statistics are fascinating in and of themselves in showing the steady growth of acceptance in nearly every category, the alarming trend for religious individuals has also seen an increase. 22% of those holding that religion is very important to them believe pornography is morally acceptable, followed by 50% for those who say religion is moderately important, and 76% percent of those who say religion is not very important to them at all.

Pornography: Not Simply a Crisis for the Unbeliever

While those outside of organized religion are at higher rates of acceptance, nearly 1 in 4 who claim religion is highly important to them still view pornography as morally acceptable. This is with a loose definition of porn that doesn’t see nudity as anything pornographic – so in terms of sexually immoral content as defined by Scripture (Gal. 5:19), those statistics, staggering as they are, still do not accurately reflect the problem amongst Christians. By that criteria alone – and especially in terms of the current reader who claims Christ whilst dismissing the last two sentences, we’ve already lost the battle.

We easily justify ingesting pornographic expressions in popular culture because it isn’t as racy as the hardcore porn we have to go and find at the click of a mouse. We ogle those whom we’d be ashamed of if they were our daughters and praise that in ourselves which we would be ashamed of in our sons. We seek to find the proverbial line, which we utterly bind in subjectivity, and toe it – occasionally slipping over to the wrong side from time to time. We feel the shame connected to that, yet are perplexed at why we can’t quite be free from the bondage of sexual sin.

I am convinced that many don’t commit adulterous affairs – not out of a love for God – but because they wouldn’t know how to carry one out without getting caught or they simply just don’t have the opportunity provided to them. If this weren’t true, it seems that pornography wouldn’t be such a huge issue within the church for men and women. Porn offers a similar experience without the inherent risks of that physical expression – yet interestingly, the stats demonstrate those with a porn addiction are more than twice as likely to seek out that physical expression. The point being, porn is as much of a pit of death that Solomon warns of as the one enticing you into their bedroom; they lead to the same place.

Incidentally, Solomon also describes this same individual as brutish and utterly senseless. The adverb he uses in Proverbs 7:22 describes his sudden interest in the harlot as that which we would describe idiomatically as “in the blink of an eye”. He has no second thoughts about his actions, but is impulse-driven, like cattle led to slaughter, or the foolish criminal who simply goes from shackle to shackle. The harlot is so enticing to him that he literally shows no hesitation as he goes to his own destruction.

Porn: Not simply a Moral Crisis – But an Existential One

When we deny a metaphysics of personhood the sole enterprise becomes one in which men and women seek pleasure. In essence, pleasure is the vehicle through which people have come to identify themselves. Any form of human expression outside of human sexuality (i.e. the sexually chaste) is seen as un-whole. It is the fundamental degradation of humanity itself as it debases that which is unique in all humans (the Imago Dei) in favor of that which makes us similar to all other mammals: sex.

Women are viewed as the sole objects of pleasure, and they are encouraged in the midst of a #MeToo era to explore sexual fetishes that perpetuate the misogyny they rally against. Men are in a perpetual state of adolescence wherein they seek sexual expression without the risks of human interaction and the messiness of relationships. Behind each of these distortions of sexuality is the faulty notion that in some capacity, sexuality is intrinsically linked to what confers personhood.

This is not merely a moral crisis – it is an existential crisis, namely, because people have removed any purpose to sexuality other than pleasure. If we sense pornography does not facilitate this with abundant ease, we are naïve at best. If we sense the church has not bought into this lie, well, the statistic show otherwise. The experience of young men and women struggling with porn in our churches demonstrates otherwise. The percentage of pastors who are being ousted due to sexual misconduct also demolishes this notion. The amount of ministry leaders keeping their sin private, if the above statistics are even accurate, also exhibit the contrary.

We live in a culture that consumes pornography at the same rate as hamburgers – and we don’t see that as an absolutely terrifying trend. We don’t see the correlation between rampant sexual misconduct and the liberalization of the church – and the increased acceptance of sexual immorality behind her doors. We don’t see these things because we don’t properly understand humanity in terms of relation to God, but instead, we see it in terms of sexuality. Thereby, people adopt an ethic of harm or purpose when it comes to deriving meaning and understanding of sexuality, yet neither of these will do enough.

No, we must understand sexuality in terms of ontology – that is, how we relate to God, rather than mere, moral aesthetics. Any consumption of pornography within the churched simply demonstrates how low a view of God, truth, and virtue we possess, yet how high a view of man we maintain as we cling to our sin. It is no small wonder we see such strong ties to sexually immoral behavior and idolatry within the Scriptures. May God have mercy on us – for though we don’t see it, the Evangelical church is in existential crisis as she relates to human sexuality and flourishing. The canary in the coal mine is dead.

 

 

[1] I do not link to the site here, namely, because there are outbound links to porn within the article.

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  • Salvatore Anthony Luiso

    In the mid-1980s, David Wilkerson said in his book Set the Trumpet to Thy Mouth that many Christian ministers secretly use pornography. When I first read this, I was incredulous. Years later I read and heard statistics about the use of pornography by Christian ministers which make me think he may well have been right. If the statistics I have read are true–including the ones cited in this article–then I do not understand how the so many churches still function as well as they do. It is an awful problem for both ministers and laity. I agree that it is deadly.

    I do not excuse sexual lust, but I think we should recognize the fact that contemporary American society is historically anomalous in its quantity of temptations to it. I am not thinking merely of pornography, or of modern technology such as television and the Internet. I am also thinking of the fact that every day one may see women walking on the street who, by our standards, are adequately covered with clothing, but which by the standards of all Western societies from the First Century to the first half of the 20th Century would have been considered to be inadequately covered to be in public. I am not saying that women should go back to wearing hoop skirts or anything likewise excessive. I am saying that undergarments which women wore in the 19th Century were less revealing than shirts, shorts, and skirts which are commonly worn today.

    I think the author knows that there are Christians ministries which are focused against the use of pornography. One which I especially like is pureHOPE. It is concerned about much more than pornography. The main page of their website says “PURSUING A WORLD FREE OF SEXUAL EXPLOITATION AND BROKENNESS”, and:

    We provide Christian solutions in a sexualized culture. Our content, resources, and equipping experiences are transformative because they point people to Jesus, our Hope. Purity is not an accomplishment, it is a relationship with the One who is pure.

    I do not understand this sentence: “Any form of human expression outside of human sexuality (i.e. the sexually chaste) is seen as un-whole”. By “sexually chaste” does the author mean celibate or virginal? Chastity is not a synonym of these words.

    • Jeff Hinkle

      It is NOT a problem. God is a reetarded fagg

      • Trump-been-lyin.

        Jeffy i heard you short circuited your laptop whacking-off while watching gay-porn.

        • Jeff Hinkle

          Go suck godcock

  • HpO

    I can’t believe you actually sought the endorsement of Solomon for your article. Or don’t you know that the author of that Ancient Jewish Book of Porn, The Song of Solomon, was himself a porn addict and a womanizer? If you’ve taken heed that “porn is as much of a pit of death that Solomon warns of as the one enticing you into their bedroom; they lead to the same place” – you might as well have taken into advisement the cautionary remarks coming from St. Guccione of Penthouse and St. Hefner of Playboy.

    • Gilsongraybert

      There are days I wonder if I’ll see a comment that tops the charts of folly, and then it appears.

      • Jeff Hinkle

        Anyone who says “folly” is a c*nt lol

    • Rod Bristol

      Solomon did not write Song of Songs. Solomon appears in the text merely as a foil of comparison to the celebrated lover. Song of Songs is erotic, but not pornographic. Song of Songs contributed to the separation of the people from the idolatry that featured sexual immorality. Healthy, God-honoring sexuality would eliminate the market for porn.

      • HpO

        No.

        According to Anda E. Greeney, “The Queen of Sheba Possibly Adored in the Song of Songs”, The Bible in the Arts and the Humanities, Harvard University, August 6, 2014:

        “The Song of Solomon is about the Queen of Sheba … an allegory of King Solomon’s love of the Queen of Sheba. … A heart-broken King Solomon [is] expounding on a lost love. … Its sexual nature confirms that Solomon and Sheba were romantically engaged. … So the King James translation of 5:1, ‘I am come into my garden, my sister my spouse…’ is about coming in for sexual purposes. … This translation should read in the perfect tense of, ‘I have come into [sexual] my garden…’ In total … the Song of Songs is about consummated love. … And this subtle and erotic language mirrors an implied relationship between Solomon and Sheba centered on cerebral riddles and cerebral flirtation, with an undertone of sexual passion and lust.”

        End of story.

        • Jeff Hinkle

          The Queen of Sheba had a tasty muff lol

      • Jeff Hinkle

        Listen to Zappa’s “Jewish Princess”. That’s what SoS is all about lol awesome.

  • The list of things killing evangelicalism is long and porn doesn’t even crack the top 20.

    • Gilsongraybert

      Second sentence. While we may disagree on the particulars of all the issues within Evangelicalism, it is clearly a huge issue, both in and outside of the church.

      • You are right. And there is nothing to say we can’t address many issues at once.

    • Theodore A. Jones

      What is #1 in that the top 20 you’ve referenced?

      • Christianity as a cultural affectation, a mere lifestyle choice, rather than a way of life.

        Modern Christianity looks like the rest of the world with a patina of Christianity. Often it is barely distinguishable from the “lost” and their lives, hobbies, concerns, and priorities save for some pious-sounding language and church attendance. There is no sacrifice, no dying to self, no following the Jesus of the New Testament. Make sense?

        • Theodore A. Jones

          I reached the same conclusion over thirty years ago, but my conclusion is that the major in common defect all contemporary churches have is an incorrect soteriological assumption.

        • Jeff Hinkle

          That’s actually good. The fact that most christians are so “bad” at it is the reason we are able to live in a society that functions lol. Islam needs to become as mediocre as christianity, then our troubles with them will pretty much end as well. The good religious people are the ones who barely believe.

          • Trump-been-lyin.

            Jeffy are your parents evangelicals.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Yo mum is a ho

          • Trump-been-lyin.

            Jeffy did you know obamabeenlyin lusts after you pasty Pillsbury dough boy-bum.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Your parents are pooop

          • Trump-been-lyin.

            Big fart. Can you whiff it.

          • SCUBAsabre

            As a nonbeliever of any organized religion I am not defending religion per se but need to make a distinction for you re Islam. Islamic Terrorists are not the same as practicing Muslims just like the Irish Republican Army (IRA) of the 80’s wasn’t the same thing as being Christian.

            There is a major distinction between believers of any faith that actually live their beliefs without being hostile to others of a different sect, faith or nonbeliever. Fringe extremes who bastardize a faith/ ideology do not represent the entire group.

            The issue is Fundamentalism and Evangelical extremes…. they are about Power and Money rather than ideology at the core. The spin of ideology is to motivate the foot soldier believers to do the dirty work for achieving power and money for those at the top.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            That may be, as far as power and money goes, but those exploiters in religion are NOT somehow radical or betraying their faith. The faith itself is self hating, cynical, and blindingly fundamentalist. The “live and let live”, moderate believers are traitors to their religion, and I’m GLAD they are! We need to be encouraging laxity, among christians and especially muslims

          • SCUBAsabre

            Point of fact, you are misinformed if you believe what you wrote about those who do not evangelige or approach their faith in a fundy way much less bastardize it are somehow betraying thier faith. That demonstrates much ignorance but perhaps it was meant more as a hyperbolic accent to your point?

            At the end of the day… you seem to have missed the distinction I made. One can be extremely pious and truly embrace their faith without mistreating or judging others. I know people like this and it isn’t just an anecdotal amount. I don’t believe encouraging “laxity” is the solution… encouraging people to interact with people that are not exactly like them to humanize the experience is the solution. How do I know? I have volunteered along side Baptists, Fundy and whole long list as an openly Atheist person. I’ve NEVER been treated poorly and in fact it has opened dialogue and understanding that clears the “evil” bastardizations attributed to “others” and especially Atheists.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            My point is that they are good people, precisely because they ignore much of their faith. The nice religious people, who are the majority, are nice because they opt for civilization rather than following their religion all the way. For some reason you think I mean “betrayal” as a bad thing. Wrong.

          • SCUBAsabre

            No, I didn’t make a value judgment about your inference of “betrayal” and how you used it. I made a counter point statement that believers are NOT betraying their faith to treat others with tolerance as you assert. That is a narrow and disrespectful inference rather than recognize the actual drivers.

            Are their those that approach their faith as a loose application as you say? Sure… However, that is not the primary driver for those that both embrace their faith and treat others with tolerance. I spoken to many and continue to speak to many about it regularly in my volunteer work.

            Some sects CHOOSE to interpret texts with exclusion while other sects choose to interpret texts with other priorities. Those that are not choosing exclusion are not betraying their faith in doing so was my point. You imposing that demonstrates ignorance of their drivers and reasons for doing so. In fact, many see it as strict adherence to their faith to be tolerant of others regardless of their faith or nonfaith and or interpretations.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            I believe tolerance is indeed AGAINST the teachings of faith, particularly monotheism, as “properly” interpreted. And there is no reason to respect religion by the way, it is enough to give everyone full rights as befits a democratic society. They do NOT have freedom from mockery. I don’t want anyone oppressed, but I will NOT pretend I respect religious beliefs, any more than I would for someone who believes in astrology. But no matter, it is beside the point for me. Call it being lax, or call it in fact true piety, the point is that whatever it is that makes religious people non-intrusive and ecumenical, and generally indistinguishable from the totally irreligious in everyday life, I want more of THAT. Whatever motivates religious folks to leave me the h*ll alone, I am for.

          • SCUBAsabre

            Distinction you keep missing… I am not “respectng” religion, I am respecting the people that practice the religion. I don’t have to share their beliefs, opinions or premises to respect them as people based on how they treat others incuding those different from them. I refer you back to my earlier posts.

            Your interpretation of monotheistic faiths is consistent with some sects choices of intepretation but not all that actually BELIEVE and practice those faiths. Your imposition of your interpretation of a faith is irrelevant to the reality of what those PEOPLE that practice the faith actually believe and practice. This is especially true when it comes to motivation. Your projection is as ridiculous as when fundy people say that Atheists don’t believe because they fear the consequences (of said diety) or some other assigned motivation pulled through a theistic worldview.

            Disrespect is a choice you can choose. I don’t see it as a productive way to discuss, pursuade and especially understand others not like ourselves but it is a tactic you can choose. Sadly, in your comments so far your “disrespect” crosses over into assigned belief and motivation with broad sweeping black & white generalities applied where there are infinite grays you choose not to acknowledge. I may not share in a faith or a belief in a deity to understand someone who takes the time and effort to show me the distinctions and the grays.

            Your rigidity comes off as the polar opposite of the very rigidity you seek to “disrespect” and see eliminated in those who choose theism. I invite you to consider that for a moment… or not. The choice is yours.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Look, I don’t know what you imagine I would do! but no, I would never say anything rude or confrontational to some religious person’s face. That’s part of civilization. I still don’t have to think anything “polite” privately. Who cares??

          • SCUBAsabre

            I don’t “imagine” anything you would do. I am responding to what you have already done in terms of what you wrote. To your question, you care.

            You are the one that doesn’t want to be bothered by a theist’s ideas (read your own posts) and want them to be “indistinguishable” from nonbelievers. I argue it is just as misguided as a Fundamentalist that want’s nonbelievers/ Atheists/ Agnostics/ etc. to be indistinguishable from believers.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            But you say “want” like it doesn’t happen lol! I already live that way. Maybe you don’t live in a liberal enough area. There are plenty of religious people in my life, but they shut up about it. Not cause I said something, ya nut, but because that’s just how things are, I guess

          • SCUBAsabre

            Hmmm so now you cast dispersions on me as a nut? Hmmmmm

            I travel all over the country so I am between the bible belt and San Fran and Boston with regularity. I currently live in Florida but your “liberal” point is not related to the discussion. I am exposed to all kinds of people and religious practices all the time. I guess if you never leave your bubble you actually believe that is how it HAS TO BE and it just isn’t no matter how much you want it.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Again, it IS this way already. I live among the right people, apparently.

          • SCUBAsabre

            No.. you live in a bubble of your own approach (or choosing to believe that is the approach of all around you) and it is quite diverse out here when you actually travel around the USA.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Yeah, I’m aware it’s diverse. That’s why I pick and choose places carefully….duh

          • Jeff Hinkle

            You sound obsessed with religious practices for some reason. Well have fun. They are interesting to read about but I prefer spending my time on secular, worldly, godless things, given our short time existing. You sound bizarrely spiritual, which is fine, but I wouldn’t call you an atheist lol. Anyway, my evaluation of a person is not belief but action. If the most hardcore fundie in the world still lives like the rest of us, swearing, joking about “sacred” things, not giving a f*ck about abortion or gays, then I would count him as a fine dude to hang around with. If some self proclaimed atheist can’t shut up about religion and all the people they know and their traditions and practices…then yeah I don’t think I’ll be trying to spend time with that exhausting guy. Lol

          • SCUBAsabre

            LOL… so now you are the arbiter of who is an Atheist? Point of fact, not believing in a diety or dieties, god or gods is the definition of Atheist.

            Being a student of history, one has to understand religion. Clearly, you missed an education of both. Being a student of history doesn’t render one any category you assign merely because you are ignorent of the facts.

            You are exactly what give nonbelievers and Atheist’s such a bad stereotype. Look in a mirror.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            You don’t sound like you disbelieve lol. Anyway, that so called stereotype is fine with me. Who cares if people think badly of atheism? Not my problem, or yours.

          • SCUBAsabre

            Oh it absolutely is every Atheist’s “problem” since our rights are teh least protected in practice around the country. Many courts and governments (local up to State) interpret right to religious freedom as having to identify as one rather than from one. Your selective ignorance not withstanding, it actually matters to your rights too and especially with the Supreme Court and other Federal Courts stacked with religious conservatives.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Oh, NOW look who’s up in arms about oppression, when you just had your nose all up in some christian asss! Well, when push comes to shove you WILL be on the outside as former super-enemies the fundie christians, muslims and orthodox Jews close ranks. It always happens that way when religion is REALLY threatened or even off-put by something: the people who were just at each other’s throats will come together against YOU.

          • SCUBAsabre

            Again.. your reading comprehension is the challenge here… I refer you back to my comment re the courts when you said you didn’t care about how Atheists were stereotyped. Your logic is circular. You know it too since you now lapsed to more 5th grade projections of what I am/ other’s are rather than deal in the complexities the adults in the room can handle.

            For someone who isn’t interested in religious thinking, why are you commentinng on an Evangelistic thread of Patheos?

            Oh that’s more of the endless loop of hypocrisy.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Because I like being a prick online, duh

          • SCUBAsabre

            You are successful. I suspect you excel at this and in person as well.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            No, not in person. But I suspect you think that would be a good thing. Yo shitt is all twisted, yo!

          • SCUBAsabre

            That doesn’t even make sense… but not surprising since none of your written comments were coherent.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Whatever. In the end, jeezus and moohamed and mozes can all blow me, and I live where they can’t burn me at the stake, yet.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Anyway, now that there’s no “nice” bullsh*t, I guess I’ll mention that I don’t find your volunteering, whatever the helll you do, to be especially admirable. You do what you do to feel good about yourself, like we all do. The difference is, I don’t pretend my selfishness is something higher or noble. Being base is honest, and in fact good. Grab stuff, then die. That is life.

          • SCUBAsabre

            LOL… typical response from one of your ilk (proudly immature and self absorbed). You have no capacity to care about others so you PROJECT that selfishness and fragile ego on to others. I feel pity for you… you miss out on much and you’ll never know how much. Sad and pathetic existence.

            May someone like me touch your life in person… you may find an entire world open to you if you let it. Seek a counselor…. you need one.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            You sound like a lady, honestly

          • SCUBAsabre

            Thank you.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            So, seriously, are you a woman? I should have figured from your touchy feely approach to life lol!

          • Jeff Hinkle

            I hate trump and would laugh if he keeled over dead, by the way. So you know I ain’t no righty

          • Jeff Hinkle

            The Republican party and the Hollywood social engineering morons are all trash, no picking sides there

          • SCUBAsabre

            Only insecure and ignorant people call someone a “lady” or a woman with malice as if it’s an insult. You make up what you don’t know and assign it (motivation, belief, etc.) in all the comments so far. You are now deciding I am a woman based on what exactly?? Oh that’s right… because I have basic reading comprehension, historical understanding, civiliyt, reasoning and critical thinking skills with an ability to express myself. Yes, must be a chick because no guy could have those skills…. /s

            By demonstration you are neither a conservative nor a liberal… you’re just ignorant by choice and design. Good luck with that… you’ll need it.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            I consider it the biggest compliment that you don’t think I’m conservative of liberal. My work is done then haha

          • SCUBAsabre

            You accomplished what exactly with your “work”? What was the “goal” of this “work”?

          • Jeff Hinkle

            That’s why I say it would be good if we could prompt more muslims to become the equivalent of “Christmas and Easter” churchgoers. Then they would be harmless in even greater numbers. Yes, yes, we all know the (often put out there with ill intent) constantly repeated fact that the vast majority of muslims are not islamist radicals. In a group of over a billion people, that is still many millions of psychos and their sympathizers. The reason christianity is fairly non threatening (for now) is that we hammered away at them for centuries in the West and reduced them to basically folks that gather to hear something inspirational for 45 minutes and then have a potluck. We marginalized Westboro baptist and Focus on the Family nutjobs for a good long while, but after the trump era, who knows what nonsense could come roaring back….

          • SCUBAsabre

            Still missed the point and doubling down on the idea that pushing people who believe at an intrinsic level in a diety to not respect the interpretation of their sect is as useless as someone trying to get you to see the futility of your proposed method.

            You will never open someone’s mind to another option by disrespeting them as people and focusing on imposing your world view on to their motivations. You clearly put little to no importance on understanding others that are no like yourself based on your posts. You will never come up with a way to make a dent in fear based fundamentalism of any type by choosing to be ignorant of the ACTUAL drivers and interpretations practiced.

            How many practicing Muslims do you know? How many do you interact with regularly? I would guess a low to none answer based on this response re Muslims. Perhaps male some effort to understand and know some as people? I know… it would take effort and probably actually seeking to understand rather than project but it would likely get you closer to reality rather than the black and white projections.

            So… Christiantiy hasn’t been violent in contemporary times? Really?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph

            There are so many others… but I could be adding links all day long and it won’t adjust your narrow perspective. If you wanted to know the information is out there… just look. Or not… choice is yours.

            At the end of the day if you are a nonbeliever and want to irradicate the beliefs of those who believe differently than you do, how is that any different than the fudy theists? I’ll cut to the chase… it’s not.

            Theists get to live and believe as they want to (Christian, Muslim, Pagen, Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, etc.) and so do we nonbelievers. At the end of the day we (in the USA) live in a country run by a secular (as opposed to theistic) Goverment with built in tolerance of all belief systems equally. Right now the respecting of nonbelievers or non-Christian beliefs is under much attack so it needs some attention. BUT it is built in.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Religion doesn’t need or deserve respect. It deserves to have it’s members guaranteed full rights and the ability to live freely and without discrimination like everyone in a developed society. Being free from perhaps hearing others say “that’s really stupid!” about one’s religion: NOT part of the package. You say my idea is useless. Um, it’s not MY idea, it’s how the West got to where we are now since the Enlightenment. We basically said “we’re not gonna take it”, and eventually the church had no choice but to come along.

          • SCUBAsabre

            You need to reread what I wrote, your comprehension of it is not accurate so your response here is not on point.

            Read your own posts while you’re at it. You might actually understand better.

            To this post… NO, it is not the way of the “West” to tell people what they believe and assign motivation. That is and individual’s choice.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            I SAID, it is the way of the West to undermine religion and force it to become more liberal and private. Don’t act like you don’t know this. I’m starting to think you are not an atheist….

          • SCUBAsabre

            You really need to do more research into European history (traditional West) because it is and has been anything but about undermining religion. That might be your projected motive (much like you chose and assigned what is a valid interpretation of Christianity as if you were the arbiter), but history does not support that.

            As an Atheist, I spent much time both investigating varied religions and reading history not just as it was written from one point of view but from several points of view. It is in fact how I became an Atheist.

            I question your actual knowledge since you seem to be more focused on your personal worldview over learning facts. PLEASE… people who approach theists as you have here, give Atheists, Agnostics and Humanists a really bad name.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Yes, I AM focused on my personal worldview!! That’s the benefit of being an atheist! I can’t believe I have to explain this….. You discover at some point, probably, that there is no evidence for a god, or at least that there is none you can find, and then you can get on living! Why would anyone want to keep studying something that has already been invalidated? Religious history served its purpose: it showed that religion is bullsh*t. Now, we get on with life

          • SCUBAsabre

            You barely got out of high school right? Based on your efforts for obtuseness… you likely didn’t have the capacity for more. I hope you find it someday. Your worldview is selfish and you impose your judgements on others. You are no better than the fundamentalist theists. You are merely a reflection on the opposite end and you are too dense to recognize it. It’s the hypocrisy of your own approach that is just laughable….

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Where did you get those ridiculous “ethics”? The ones that state “don’t judge” or ” don’t be selfish”? Christianity, no doubt! You DO realize that “morality” is part of the problem with organized religion; it’s not just the magic beliefs. I consider those to be illegitimate ethical standards, just like being against pride, or lust, or anger or perhaps using mind altering substances lol

          • SCUBAsabre

            Swing and a miss yet again. You subscribe to a theists notion that morality comes from religion. I and most Atheists don’t share you theistic origin of morality. That means it’s your beliefs that are founded in Christiantiy you know right? LOL… you really are repetitious in your hypocrisy at this point.

            Not to mention you conflate ethics with morals in your answer so you’re clearly confused and reacting without thought if not out of ignorance solely.

            The don’t judge is basic civility and socialization in a multi-cultural country. Your spin sounds neither Conservative nor Liberal as you claimed earlier by a long shot. I am thinking you aren’t as much liberal as you are immature.

            Note you didn’t answer the question. So.. if you finished HS that’s as far as you got. Not a surprise at your choice to over simplify every point since the shades of gray elude you.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            I am proudly immature. You sound like a stick in the mud. And ethics and morals are the same, except to over-“educated” Berks like you lol. I do what I want. That is my “ethics”. You are a slave to religion-derived behavior codes.

          • SCUBAsabre

            You are a success at immaturity too. I don’t know what a “Berks” is but I suspect if I hung out with proudly lazy people who pride themselves on their ignorance like you have I would. My guess, anyone that actually completed High School is considered “over-educated” by your standards. If one can coherently discuss a topic it’s too much for you. That pretty much means most of the country is too educated for you to handle. Sad for you and any children you may have or influence.

            Point of fact, ethics and morality are not the same thing but I’ll bet you don’t know the defintion of either. much less the distinctions. I’ll remediate if for you:

            Ethics and morals relate to “right” and “wrong” conduct but are not synonyms. While they are sometimes used interchangeably, they are different: Ethics refer to rules provided by an external source, e.g., codes of conduct in workplaces or from principles in religions. Morals refer to an individual’s own principles regarding right and wrong.

            Once again you have a swing and a miss. You conflate related things… put your head back in the sand and you’ll be happier. Let the adults deal with the difficult topics given your lack of ability.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Children are for the religious breeders. I am proud to dump my spoooge in a paper napkin. And, ok then, by your definition I have a morality, which is whatever I want. And Berk is Cockney for “c*nt”

          • SCUBAsabre

            That’s the best you’ve got? Yawn…

            I ammend my earlier statement, you didn’t get out of middle school.

          • SCUBAsabre

            The one thing we agree on… you shouldn’t breed.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            Whatever kook

          • SCUBAsabre

            Ah yes… name calling… the last vestule of the feeble minded.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            You shitstain

          • Jeff Hinkle

            And, I probably know a few muslims. I wouldn’t know, which is the whole point. We want people in this society to be able to go through life without always bringing up their silly religions. I know tons of people who would surely call themselves christians if I asked. But it never comes up because they are the sort who just do their thing (probably occasional church, raised in it but don’t care THAT much) and leave it at that. THEY are the ideal citizen. Free to do WHATEVER, but WE don’t have to hear about it. Perfect.

          • Jeff Hinkle

            I’ll tell you the ideal: a population of Episcopalians and Albanian-type Muslims. Won’t bother hardly anybody lol

        • Theodore A. Jones

          My question is “What is number one” of those items you have referenced?

          • Failure to commit.

            IF you believe that the Holy Spirit of God, God himself, indwells you,
            IF you believe that Christians are commissioned to evangelize,
            IF you believe that you are an ambassador from the creator of all things to a lost world,
            IF you believe that God himself sacrificed for you,
            IF you believe you are commanded to love others as yourself,
            And then fail to live a life of sacrifice you are lying about believing all, or any, of the above.
            OR you are telling the almighty creator of the universe that he can shove it and you will live as you please.

          • Theodore A. Jones

            Nada.

          • ?

            Um, OK.

        • Jan-Peter Schuring

          I agree completely . Western Evangelical Christianity together with the Catholic Church is a hallowed out shell of the beautiful Gospel first intended to be shared… before Augustine and Constantine turned its message of Love into fear. It morphed into “ticket punched salvation” of the singular self and into broad exclusivism in the echo chamber of the faith community .

          The original cause is a fundamental misconception of God’s character. It has led to a motive of reward or fear of punishment as the source of faith. This in turn leads to “sin management” over the experiential affect of “Love of other” and thereby Living in the Kingdom. Somehow the behavior of the Good Samaritan has become the dirty rags of “works” while the outward piety “a la Pharisees” is deemed acceptable. The Bible has turned into a literal “paper Pope” where every excuse for not following the greatest commandment is extracted from cherrypicked verses.

          Until the cancerous blasphemy of characterizing God as “wrathful to sinners” the misconstrued theology of fear will continue to enslave Christianity and destroy its power to persuade.

          As John expounded: “Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God; everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, for God is love.”

          The closest we ever get to seeing God is when we love one another, for that is when God lives in us.

          If porn is the demise of this house of cards then so be it….let the Revolution that is Christ begin again.

  • aeforester

    My thoughts…

    I truly believe that speaking openly with children from an early age when they express curiosity about their bodies is imperative to having a healthy view about human sexuality. When you grow up with the sense that anything to do with your private parts, or feelings and sensations that you might experience are something to be ashamed of, or something that’s dirty… it leaves one feeling very confused. I believe this leads to the behavior of looking at pornography as a means to delve secretly for answers…or the behavior of inappropriate interactions with peers. Secrecy and shame lead to sneaking to find the answers they are seeking. If a child is asking questions about sex or human sexuality, answering their questions in age appropriate language allows for them to understand that it is perfectly natural to have thoughts and feelings… healthy even… The cultivation of an attitude of secrecy, shame, and damnation is the root cause of the rampant porn industry… at least in my beliefs. Making it a taboo subject simply makes one all the more determined to figure out what the “secrets” might be. I was very matter of fact with my child. If she had questions, I spoke to her openly. I never tried to hush her up or make her feel like there was anything to feel dirty or ashamed about. And, the idea that it has anything to do with the clothes women wear is offensive and misogynistic… It’s natural to find beauty in the human body. It’s natural to experience arousal and excitement. It’s natural to be curious. What isn’t natural is for men to feel that they are somehow entitled to gratifying themselves because women somehow tempted them to do so. And if couples would speak openly about their desires with each other, and learn to give each other pleasure… try new things… try new positions… excite each other and keep their sexual lives vibrant, perhaps their wouldn’t be such a need for pornography.

  • Stefan Stackhouse

    I do not suffer from this addiction myself (there but for the grace of God go I!). However, like just about everybody with eyes and ears, I am constantly assaulted by sexually explicit images and come-ons. One cannot use the Internet, go through a supermarket checkout line, watch television, or even drive down the highway without seeing these enticements.

    What I have found useful, and what I counsel others to try: Whenever you see one of these things, then pray for the person being depicted. Pray that they would be delivered from whatever has led them to be used in this degrading manner. Pray that God would turn their life around, lead them to Christ, and help them to a life of sexual purity. The power in this little mini-discipline is that it immediately transforms the person in the image from an object to be used for selfish gratification into a subject of selfless compassion. Once one’s thinking about them has been changed in this way, it is unlikely that one will see them as an object of desire again. For me, this does work, and I suspect it would for most people as well. Those who are deeply into porn addiction do still need professional help, however.

    • P. McCoy

      Since 1995 I have owned 6 desktop PCs ; right now, I have 3 smartphones and 3 android tablets. I have had various internet service providers. In ALL of that time, I have NEVER turned on ANY device and had “porn” leap right into my face!
      On the contrary I had to really dig into search engines and look for it, worrying most about viruses.
      So I am skeptical about this so called ‘porn’ mass invasion. If I’m not running into it why are YOU, unless you see things that are not there.
      Porn can mean many things to many people- to some, it’s a lingerie or a yoga exercise commercial, to another it’s a commercial on selling stilettos. For another it’s a man and woman having sex on a movie channel ; for me it is violence done to Women or children in a sexual manner Americans don’t mind showing a shadow or actual knifed up chests of Women, but not chests touched in a non violent loving way.

      To me the way Christians go on about sex, it is like Aesop’s fable about the Fox and the Grapes…

      • Stefan Stackhouse

        Only once or twice have I clicked on something that turned out to be far different than what I thought it would be. Rare, but it can happen. Suggestive come-on’s are indeed pervasive, however. I have even seen such ads on Christian sites. When they go for the ad money, they don’t have much say about what gets advertised.

        • P. McCoy

          Well, I don’t watch ‘Christian’ TV or much of ANY television for that matter. But then, I suppose that certain ads like a “come hither ” for food or a shampoo,” and the like, don’t constitute as “Porn” to me.

          As for the internet, I have had to be doggedly wanting to see a specific porn site or subject to have it pop up on my system. I believe that is the rule and not the exception.

      • I once had a hardcore porn image pop up on my ipad at work. It was a complete shock to me and I never went near the stuff on the net.

      • Karin Isbell

        Maybe I am just a babe in the woods. I have owned a computer, including having to delete thousands of messages from my crowded inbox, since the nineties. To this day I HAVE YET TO RUN INTO A PORN MESSAGE., inadvertently or by choice. I pray for those addicted — may they, by the Grace of God, reach the straight path!

  • Joseph r carreiro sr

    To not get caught up in Porn,don’t watch,stay away for if you don’t anyone can get hooked.That is how Satan works.God always give you enough time to walk away or run if you have to. If not it is on you,Think hard before tuning in. If you are a non believer tune in have a ball and pay the consequences later.In the end it is a one on one. No blame allowed.Think.Do your thing.

  • Jeriah Knox

    Love your focus on proper ontology for correction. Ontology is a huge key behind how we got in this mess and the key to correcting it.

  • I find that many Christians celebrate the fact that ‘we all sin,’ in the sense that sin should be totally acceptable and not resisted.
    I recently responded to such a statement by saying, ‘be perfect, as your Heavenly Father is perfect.’

    I don’t know if it made an impression but I had to gently rebuke such spiritual laziness when confronted with it.

  • Is Pornography permissible in the Holy Bible ?
    How many Countries and People Believe in the Holy Bible?

  • Pilgrim

    There is nothing more worldly than watching television or use of other screen devices. Other than business done on line and phones,– give the entertainment industry a rest. A semi media-sabbatical from cultural trash will reboot the mind/body/spirit with a strengthened focus for pursuing God. For those who don’t watch TV, or rarely, it is shocking to see how vulgar and explicit the language and images are. One example of how quickly the moral compass in our culture changed is in regarding the acceptance of homosexuality. The popular TV show Will & Grace (and similar shows, i.e. Grace & Frankie) used the magic of humor to break down community standards. A steady diet of immoral entertainment erodes the righteousness and purity of believers as taught in scripture. Within a twenty-year time period, attitudes changed and were reflected in legislation, the legalization of homosexual marriage. Netherlands became the first country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage (2001), and many have followed in rapid succession with the USA in June 26, 2015, thru the U.S. Supreme Court legalized homosexual marriage in all 50 states.
    Psalm 101:3 (amplified translation),
    ‘I will set no worthless or wicked thing before my eyes.
    I hate the practice of those who fall away [from the right path];
    It will not grasp hold of me.’
    or a positive instruction of how a Christian is to discipline their thoughts,

    Philippians 4:8
    8 For the rest, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is worthy of reverence and is honorable and seemly, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely and lovable, whatever is kind and winsome and gracious, if there is any virtue and excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think on and weigh and take account of these things [fix your minds on them].
    Ephesians 5:3-7
    3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk [Amy Schumer, comedians] or coarse joking [think late night comedy shows], which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them.

    This is who we are in Christ:

    1 Peter 2:9 ‘But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a
    peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath
    called you out of darkness into his marvelous light;…’

  • tovlogos

    “Evangelicals scarcely address the root of the problem of pornography within the church.”
    Clearly the answer is sin — in Luke 17:1 we know that stumbling is inevitable; but there is a big
    difference between stumbling due to the shortcomings of this flesh living in the curse; and committing oneself
    to embrace sin. In 1 John 3:8-9 — “8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil
    has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.
    9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning,
    because he has been born of God.” (The KJV doesn’t catch the full impact of the grammar here).
    The present tense conveys continuity, which is the difference between temporary stumbling and accepting willingly i.e.
    embracing. James 1:13-15 indicates the fault is our own. It doesn’t manifest from God but from our own propensities.
    The difference, spiritually, is obvious — notwithstanding, we also have the Holy Spirit to carry on the Lord’s work and word
    — John 16:8-9.
    So, no one will have any excuses — John 15:22, “If I had not come and spoken to them, they would
    not have been guilty of sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.”
    Nevertheless we have to be conscious of our time period in the prophetic scheme of things. Matthew 24 broadly brushes,
    though accurately, the present scenario — with this in mind we also have to look at 2 Thessalonians 2 to see more
    precisely what is taking place as we speak. There, as predicted, is a massive Falling Away of members of the body of Christ.
    The result? the manifestation of the anti-Christ — that’s where this massive commitment to sin is leading. Christians must
    arm themselves with the armour of God to consciously fight
    the good fight (Ephesians 6:10-17…and take a good look at verse 16 — we are relentlessly being attacked from the unseen world,
    yes, sometimes through people, and sometimes in our spirits. The Armoured defense system is purely spiritual, as in walking in the Spirit.

  • Tim Ellison

    How many evangelicals die each year from obesity related diseases? Should we ban food? Food addiction and its consequences makes porn small potatoes. Jus sayin.

  • Roger Morris

    The main porn afflicting Evangelicals is Trump Porn, Societal & Moral Control Porn, the Porn of Political Power & Influence, the Porn of Doctrinal Particularism and the Porn of Unwarranted Certainty.

    • D.M.S.

      Which is exactly what the demoncratic party wants also, and never allow republicans to ever get that control again.

  • gdubya31

    Excellent article differentiating between what the culture (and many in churches) call pornography and what God’s Word calls “porneia” – any/all sexual immorality or a sexually immoral mindset. Many in our churches (laity and clergy) have been given over to porneia while not “engaging” in pornography, making it even more difficult to address the real issue in our minds, lives, marriages, families and relationships! This is exactly what Alfred Kinsey’s goal was as the “Father of Modern Day Sex Education and the outcome and continued pushing of “porneia/porn disguised as education” in the past 40+ years of Comprehensive Sex Education…all the while the churches in American have sat back quietly and either ignored, endorsed and some even enjoyed it. We are reaping what we’ve sown and it must be addressed! Thanks for bringing it to greater light!

  • SCUBAsabre

    Though I applaud your article’s opening effort to hold yourselves accountable to the principals of your faith and the effect you see it as having on Evangelicals, this article quickly lapses to a “victim” place starting early with when you referred to your neighbors children as “conning” you into going past the highway rather than acknowledging the CHOICE you made to go even though you knew it was wrong. Children can make irresponsible choices so I get it but your effort to off the responsibiliy to the neighbor’s children rather than your own choice is EXACTLY the core issue Evangelicals face: Lack of integrity to own one’s choices.

    The notion that anything you find yourself drawn to that you interpret as against your faith must be banned is antithetical to a free society that is a secularly structured and governed so all believers and non-believers of any faith can practice equally and openly. You and your sect of believers get to impose whatever constraints on yourselves that you choose. However, you don’t get to trample the Constitution and First Ammendment to impose your religious beliefs on the rest of us. Though I am not a consumer of pornography and I am not a fan of the fallout from it (some in your article… some not at all what you cite), it is at the end of the day a personal choice. I don’t get to impose my personal beliefs about pornography on anyone else either. Personal responsibility!!!

  • Camino1

    Trying to connect the dots: so porn is the reason evangelicals support Donald Trump?

  • Rod Bristol

    Pornography is a symptom, not the cause of what ails Evangelicalism. Patriarchal prudery pretends to protect with passionate piety. Overanxious attempts to protect people from their God-given nature, turning sex into a taboo secret, provides incentive and expands the market for pornography. A much simpler, more open, more casual attitude toward this aspect of human life (than shown by the sex-averse sects of various religions) would be much healthier. Even more importantly, we must learn to regard women as fully, blessedly, giftedly human as men. Jesus banned hierarchy among his disciples and he deliberately violated the restrictive and authoritarian customs of his contemporaries. When we learn to respect other people as bearers of God’s image, as inherently worthy, as truly equal (not homogeneous), we will start to lose our tendency to objectify and use people we consider less than ourselves.

  • ElectricStrawberry

    Evangelicals are too enamored with the prosperity message, multi-million dollar biz jet, big houses, Louis Vuitton hand bags, the wealth of the world in general. This so-called prosperity message prepares nobody for the attacks of the devil, and prepares nobody to get from earth to heaven. The prosperity message is in part why I left all that behind. So it’s no surprise that porn in infiltrated the Evangelical Church , the preachers were to busy raising money for the next big project mainly another bizjet

  • linc

    Sorry, litre not liter… from Downunder!!!

  • Ignoramus

    If one’s salvation is already assured … what’s the harm?

  • David Bunker

    Unfortunately, articles like this can inadvertently push people back into hiding given its rhetorical stridency. I get the author is developing a “voice” and a “style” of engaging current issues that comes off true & convicting (his writing persona) but the length and strong condemnation of those using porn may seem scriptural but for me comes off more like grand standing moralizing than truly loving restorational speech. My own experience is that when I offer up such strong arguments for dealing with what certainly is a scourge I must also be truly submitted to a group of men who can speak into his life or my stridency blinds me to my own duplicity.. I imagine the author’s tone would be tinged with more grace & less shaming vitriol. When we submit our failures to other men who may struggle what posture works best to bring about repentance & restoration? My experience has been empathy. A lack of empathy often pushes people away as they are shamed more than brought to repentance through kindness. I don’t know the author but my experience tells me that when the intensity of a message comes off “over the top” it suggests time with other men who are broken just as the author is needed. I pray this article was not written for the sake of a highly visited website or Facebook post but because his stridency is softened by his own struggles with sexual wholeness. That posture goes along way & you might find the very men you seek to impact are actually now drawn to your brokenness & humility.