Was Jesus The God Of The Old Testament?

Was Jesus The God Of The Old Testament? March 6, 2017

Since Jesus is God and has always existed, was He around during the Old Testament? Was He the God of the Old Testament?

Before the Beginning

If you want to go back to the beginning, don’t start at Genesis 1:1 but start with the Apostle John’s account that begins before creation. He writes, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1), and clearly, Jesus was the Word of God Who became flesh (John1:14), and was with God (the Father and the Holy Spirit) (John 1:1) in the beginning, therefore He existed before the creation. Jesus was God before the “beginning” and was with God and was God, so therefore we know that Jesus is not just the God-Man (which came later), He is God and has always been God (eternal). John adds that “All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made” (John 1:3). John not only states that Jesus has been God from all time, but there is nothing that exists that He did not create. This destroys the fallacy that Jesus was created. Since He created all things, He could not possibly have created His own self since He would have had to exist prior to that. The belief that Jesus was created cannot be reconciled by Scripture. To be the “only begotten” or “first born among many brothers” (Rom 8:29) symbolizes having all the Old Testament privileges of being the first born son in a family. After his father’s death, the elder son would be the preeminent one in that family, so in this way, Jesus was the first born among those who would later be born again. He was certainly the trailblazer of the resurrection to life. He defeated death and conquered the grave, and even Thomas had to admit to Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28)! Jesus did not become God as some cults believe, but “He was in the beginning with God” (John 1:2), and “the Word was God” (John 1:1), indicating that He was God, not became God. Jesus did not come into existence through being born of Mary. He was born into the flesh to save those in the flesh (John 1:12-14); at least those who would repent and believe in Him.

The Great “I AM”

When God revealed Himself to Moses, He told him, “I am who I am.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘I am has sent me to you’” (Ex 3:14). Part of the reason the Jews sought to kill Jesus was His use of “I am,” because to them, it was a name exclusively used for God. Jesus told the crowd, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst” (John 6:35). The Jews were angry, and realizing what Jesus was saying, so “the Jews grumbled about him, because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven” (John 6:41). Imagine what they must have felt when “Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58). They knew the full implications of that statement, so “they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple” (John 8:59). They could not handle Jesus as God and as an eternal being. Today, many still cannot.

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The Seven “I AM’s”

I am the bread of life is one of the seven “I am’s” in the Bible, and some of these point to the God of the Old Testament. Just as the bread from heaven gave Israel physical life, Jesus own body was given for our receiving eternal life. Jesus also says, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life” (John 8:12). Thankfully, the darkness cannot overcome the light, but the light always overcomes darkness (John 1:4). Then He says, “I am the door” (John 10:9), and “I am the good shepherd” (John 10:14). He also says, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live” (John 11:25). Since He is the resurrection or makes our resurrection to eternal life possible, there is no other way to be resurrected to eternal life. Jesus claims for Himself that He is the only way, in saying I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6). He’s not one of many ways…He is the one and only way. Later in John, Jesus says, “I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:5). When they came to arrest Jesus, He asked them who they were looking for, and when they told Him it was Jesus, “Jesus said to them, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground” (John 18:6). That would seem to be a natural reaction for someone who thought they might be a man of God, or more, the God-Man. They knew what His saying “I am” meant, so there could have been no other reason they “drew back and fell to the ground” unless they understood what He claiming for Himself.

The Rock

When the Apostle Paul was speaking about ancient Israel, he referred to the rock that brought forth water, and wrote that they “were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food (manna), and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ” (1st Cor 10:2-4). Paul couldn’t have been more specific in these verses. He could have used the Father’s name but He specifically said that the “Rock was Christ,” even capitalizing the “Rock” because it another name for God. The psalms refers to God as a rock dozens of times, but here Paul refers to this Rock as the same Rock who brought the spiritual drink (water from the rock) and food (the manna), and that Rock was Christ! So was the God of the Old Testament Jesus Christ? We know He’s always existed, long before Abraham, so Jesus was the God of the Old Testament, however, because they are all God in three Persons, and they all agree with one another, whatever Jesus does is the will of the Father, whether that was in the Old Testament or the New Testament.

Conclusion

Whether you know much about the Old Testament or the New Testament, all you need to know is what Jesus tells us when He began His earthly ministry, where “Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of God, and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel” (Mark 1:14-15). To repent means to turn away from or forsake your sins, but this repentance is granted by God and He will give us the means to forsake them. It is a lot more than changing your mind about sin, it is having your mind changed by God and becoming a new creation in Christ (2nd Cor 5:17). The person that’s brought to repentance also puts their trust in Christ. Once they have been brought to repentance and faith, the wrath of God abides on them no longer, unlike those who refuse to believe (John 3:18, 36). My prayer is you would believe and be saved today, while it’s still called “today” (2nd Cor 6:2).

Article by Jack Wellman

Jack Wellman is Pastor of the Mulvane Brethren Church in Mulvane Kansas. Jack is also the Senior Writer at What Christians Want To Know whose mission is to equip, encourage, and energize Christians and to address questions about the believer’s daily walk with God and the Bible. You can follow Jack on Google Plus or check out his book Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.

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  • Amen!
    I did a very, very long study of the Old and New Testament going through a huge search for “I AM” in a Bible Study search engine.
    I circled each occurrence of ” I AM ” as well as underline in red in the Old Testament God spoke personally.
    If you haven’t done so it is a very worthy endeavor to do so yourselves.
    Jesus is all over the Old Testament.

    • pud

      Oh wow! What fun that must have been! You see what you want to see like every religious lunatic has done since the first “god” was invented

    • Jack Wellman

      Great idea.

  • pud

    ““The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel”

    Nope….There is no evidence that any “jesus” ever existed. It is impossible for your version of the invisible deity to “exist” Nothing ever happened then, now or in the future regarding this superstitious nonsense. Every word attributed to your mythical “jesus” was part of a man made story.

    If your “mind is changed” by this “god” then you are nothing but a programmable slave. A puppet. A toy in the celestial dictators toy box.

    And your “prayer” for all to repent before it’s too late is straight out of the wife beating handbook. Do as the authority commands or else! How sick is that and who do you think you’re fooling?

    You are a delusional simpleton jack. I feel so sorry that your life has been wasted on perpetual self loathing and groveling to something made up in a Bronze Age book. I also condemn you for spreading this krap to other gullible people especially the abhorrent practice of indoctrinating children in this horrible death cult of yours

    • Mike George

      Pud, why so much hate? You gotta relax man go get a massage and take the day off. If people believe that Jesus existed and they see coincidences in the Bible….then let them share those coincidences and continue to have a relationship with their God. Who are any of us to judge?

      • pud

        No “hate” at all brother. I am an enemy of this destructive, delusional child abusing cult is all. It’s not a question of judgement it’s a question of preserving civilization and keeping the rational world from being sucked back down into that black hole of religious lunacy that humanity spent 2000 years crawling out from under. These people are dangerous…they vote…they indoctrinate children…they are not benign they are wicked and dangerous.

        • Mike George

          What’s up Pud. hear me out brother. Christians are not an enemy of humanity. You have to logically think about this. Christians by their very nature try to emulate Jesus who said to love your neighbor as you love yourself and to even love your enemy. Yeah these priests have definitely blown it (no pun intended) but for every Christian I have met I have never walked away and said to myself that these people are dangerous. Radical Muslims…..ISIS….that is something where I would have to agree with you on but a true Christian (few and far between?) that I’ve witnessed- can still be rational, kind, and normal and I know they mean well. Can’t speak for all of them but I can speak for me..ha

          Respectfully,
          M

          • pud

            Westboro Baptist Church is “christian” no? So was Hitler and the KKK and the Irish Republican Army to mention just a tiny tiny few.

            Good people do good things. Bad people do bad things. But if you want to get a good person to do bad things you need religion.

          • Mike George

            yo. Yeah I can definitely tell you that westboro may label themselves as christian but those evil bastards are not christian. you can put a label on a can of meatloaf and call it filet mignon but if it’s in a can and tastes like shit….its definitely not filet mignon…ha. A great quote that separate the Hitlers and the kkk/ westboro, etc….even the priests who fondle kids…..is that “we are judged by the fruits we bear”. Anyone can go around and say their christian and do evil…..that doesn’t make them christian that makes them hypocrites, liars and lost.

            enjoying the convo,
            Mike

  • A Amos Love

    Jack

    Very much enjoyed your post.
    “Was Jesus The God Of The Old Testament?”

    Good stuff – When you write…
    “ALL THINGS were made through him,
    and without him was not any thing made that was made” (John 1:3).
    John not only states that Jesus has been God from all time,
    but there is nothing that exists that He did not create.”
    ——-

    The OT, and NT, consistently “interchanges,” and “identifies,” Jesus with God.
    In the OT – God, Elohim, Jehovah, creates ALL THINGS…
    In the NT – Jesus, creates ALL THINGS…
    ——-

    Proverbs 16:4
    The LORD (Jehovah) hath **made ALL THINGS** for himself…

    Genesis 1:1 KJV
    In the beginning God (Elohiym) created the heaven and the earth.

    Exodus 20:11 KJV
    For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth…

    Psalm 33:6 KJV
    By the word of the LORD (Jehovah) were the heavens made;

    Psalm 121:2 KJV
    My help cometh from the LORD (Jehovah), which made heaven and earth.
    ——-

    Colossians 1:14-18 KJV
    In whom we have redemption through His blood, (Jesus)
    even the forgiveness of sins…
    16 For **by Him** were **ALL THINGS created,** (Jesus)
    that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible,
    whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers:
    **ALL THINGS were created by Him,** and “for Him:” (Jesus)
    17 And He is before ALL THINGS, (Jesus)
    and **by Him ALL THINGS consist**. (to set together)
    18 And He is the head of the body, the church: (Jesus)
    who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; (Jesus)
    that in ALL THINGS He might have the preeminence.

    Ephesians 3:9 KJV
    And to make ALL men see what is the fellowship of the mystery,
    which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God,
    who **created ALL THINGS** by Jesus Christ.

    Hebrews 1:2 KJV
    Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son,
    whom He hath appointed heir of **ALL THINGS,**
    by whom also **He made the worlds;**

    Revelations 4:11 KJV
    Thou art worthy, O Lord,
    to receive glory and honour and power:
    for thou hast **created ALL THINGS,**
    and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

    Yes – Jesus, He is the God of The Old Testament.

    • Great stuff Amos! Thanks!

      • pud

        No it isn’t…it’s nonsense

    • pud

      So “jesus” was also responsible for all the genocide in the OT?

  • pud

    Google “Orphic Cults”…that is what you belong to and what is the roots of your christianity. Of course you took the time to study this right Jack? Nothing you claim or believe in is new or unique…not a bit of it

    The influence of the sect was extensive and enduring. Perhaps it was here that Pythagoreans took their diet, their dress, and their theory transmigration; Plato, though he rejected much of Orphism, accepted its opposition of body and soul, its puritan tendency, its hope of immortality. Part of the pantheism and asceticism of Stoicism may be traced to an Orphic origin. The Neo-Platonists of Alexandria possessed a large collection of Orphic writings, and based upon them much of their theology and their mysticism. The doctrines of hell, purgatory, and heaven, of the body versus the soul, of the divine son slain and reborn, as well as the sacramental eating of the body and the blood and divinity of the god, directly or deviously influenced Christianity, which was itself a mystery religion of atonement and hope, of mystic union and release. The basic ideas and ritual of the Orphic cult are alive and flourishing amongst us today.

  • Thank you Mike for your kind answer. I have that person blocked because of their bitterness. We can only pity this person. Pray for them and walk away.

    He/she probably won’t read these but here they are in case other doubters may give them a fair reading.

    We do not force our beliefs in our Jesus Iesous Y’shua GOD the Son on anyone.
    It’s called free will. Each must choose for themselves.
    We choose Jesus who is GOD.

    Atheists have Proven God Does Not Exist. Right?
    http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/nogod.html

    Answers for Atheists and Agnostics
    http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/answers.html

  • pud

    So gentle jesus meek and mild must have ordered this then….right jack? Only makes sense if gentle jesus is your invisible god right?

    “Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.

  • pud

    No it isn’t…it’s ridiculous simpleminded intellectually lazy nonsense.

    Where is “up there”? LOL

    You strike me as someone with little intelligence and no critical thinking skills