This week’s episode was recorded in the youth group room at First Christian Church in downtown Portland. To start things off, Jordan talks about being the Marv Marinovich of comedy by relentlessly pushing his daughter to be funnier while Christian embraces the black magic that is naturopathic medicine.

This week’s guest is Wm. Paul Young, author of the wildly popular novel The Shack, which has sold 18 million copies to date. Paul talks about the creative process, about trusting God rather than trying to please, and the development of his latest book, Crossroads. Basically, it’s just an interesting conversation with a fascinating person who’s also incredibly gracious and humble.

In the Echo Chamber, it’s all about gun control. Christian and Jordan discuss how our spiritual beliefs and cultural biases impact our stance on gun control and violence. Since Christian’s a pacifist and Jordan’s a veteran who grew up around firearms, they bring some varied perspectives to the conversation. We hope you enjoyed your Christmas, and have a happy New Year!

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