The 4 Most Important Things To Remember About Seeking Biblical Justice

The 4 Most Important Things To Remember About Seeking Biblical Justice January 21, 2015

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Justice is a pretty hip word now in much of Christianity, whether it’s evangelicalism or progressivism– and that’s a really good thing. It’s been beautiful these past few years to watch a justice movement explode, see the success of things like the Justice Conference (which you should really attend if you get the chance), and overall see the role of justice seeking become something that people take seriously.

Yet, I think without some guiding principles, any of us who enjoy fighting for justice can accidentally end up pursuing the wrong kind of justice, or pursuing the right kind of justice but in the wrong way, with the wrong heart, or wrong goals. This has certainly happened to me along the way, and those moments became experiences that led me to develop some personal guiding principles regarding justice seeking. I think the movement overall, and any justice seeker, would do well to reflect upon the nature of justice, the means of justice, the motives of justice, and the goals of justice, as a way to help steer the ship in the right direction. Here’s what I think is crucially important for justice seekers to remember:

1. Justice-seeking begins with right-heartedness.

Justice pursued without a heart of love, won’t be justice at all in the end. Too often in our culture, justice is seen more in forms of retribution and destruction– and nothing about that is rooted in love. Instead, God’s justice is deeply rooted in the desire to make the world a little less broken and a little more right– because that’s what he’s busy doing. For those of us who desire to live out the biblical imperative to “seek justice” we must remember that this cannot be rooted in anything other than a deep love and a commitment to be agents of healing.

2. Justice seekers would do well to continually develop and maintain self-awareness.

The process of justice brings out different things in different people depending on the circumstance- sometimes that’s altogether good and beautiful, but the process of seeking justice can bring out dark sides of our own hearts as well– and we all have them. Justice seekers must spend considerable time in self reflection so that they can hold onto that which is good and right, and repent when the dark side of justice comes out. I’ve noticed in my own life that while I am seeking justice in a specific scenario, I’ll find myself triggered because of some past experience. When this happens, it often leads me to become not an agent of healing, but brings out ugliness in my own heart that leads me down a different path– a path that isn’t justice at all. This must be resisted at all cost, because when acting on our own darkness, our own hurts, our own junk– acting on anything other than love, leads one down a very, very different path. I’ve been down it too many times, and I don’t like the person I become while walking it.

3. True justice can only be gained by the right means.

It’s easy to seek justice by use of the wrong means, and ironically create more injustice in the world as a result of our own behavior. Strength and resolve must also be tempered with patience, grace, dignity, and even handedness, while resisting the use of means so often used by an unjust world. We must remember: using the wrong means to deal with injustice often creates a wake of further injustices, even if we don’t intend them. A great case in point is the way we deal with suspected terrorists: if we try to take out a suspected terrorist with a drone but also kill an entire wedding party who happened to live next to that suspect, that’s not justice– it’s further injustice. While we use methods other than drones we must still remember that when the pursuit of justice leaves a wake of hurting people, it’s not justice at all. The only right means in the pursuit of justice are the ones that do not result in further harm– especially to the innocent– and we must strive to remember this.

4. Biblical justice must have the right goal: wholeness.

True justice has the goal of reconciliation, restoration, and wholeness– not just for the abused and the oppressed, but for the abusers and oppressors as well. Justice is not destruction of an oppressor and elevation of the oppressed, but instead justice is only achieved in beautiful fullness when the oppressed has been elevated back to their rightful place, and when those who were guilty of the oppressing have experienced repentance, healing, and restoration as well.

Case in point any parent should know: let’s say you have two kids, and the older hits the younger. I hope one would not simply comfort the younger and punish the older, but that any good parent would help the older understand how their actions were hurtful, and to model a process of reconciliation and healing that is equally full of love and concern for both sides- innocent or guilty.

While God certainly has a heart for the oppressed, and we are called to be a voice for the oppressed, we cannot fail to remember that he has this same love for the accused as well— and justice seekers must remember that the calling to help reconcile the world means we must seek the restoration and healing of the guilty as much as it does the wounded. Yes, that’s hard, but God’s justice and God’s love is concerned for everyone, and wants to see everyone healed and restored– no matter how guilty, or regardless of how innocent. God’s love is big and radical that way– and so should ours.

I love the cause of justice– and I’m going to be a person who continues to seek it. However, I want to strive to remember that I am not seeking my own concept of justice, but God’s. As such, I want to be motivated by a heart of love, I want to maintain self awareness so that I don’t let my own junk lead me to seek destruction, I want to use the right means when seeking justice, and I want to make sure that the goal of any justice I seek is always wholeness, restoration, and healing– for everyone.


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  • Drew Snider

    Excellent post — especially the part where “justice” is defined as “revenge” or “settling scores”. I believe that’s why the Bible tells us that “vengeance belongs to God” — as Jerry Savelle puts it, He does it much better than us rank amateurs! :) I believe that when we pray for our enemies — or those who we believe have wronged others or ourselves — God is allowed to work His will, which means the wronged is comforted and the wrongdoer comes to repentance and everybody wins.

  • Herm

    There are a couple New Testament scriptures from Christ that clearly, in my mind and heart, contrast the Old Testament lord god declaring war on all evil doers as not possibly being the same perfect creator God in the beginning. Perhaps the spiritual lord god commanding redemptive justice was the devil but according to Jesus that spirit could not have been that of our Father in Heaven’s. The Christian Bible is a perfect expose’ of how we mete out justice in our minds and hearts through “riot fever”/”lynch mob” mode when separate from the Holy Spirit. The beginning demonstrates how our Lord God in Heaven deals with rebellious children who eat from the mind and heart poisoning fruit. With what God knew then He had to think we were pretty stupid not to have chosen the fruit of the tree of life growing righteously beside the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Why would we choose knowledge over life? Wait, how many children do the same thing today when as young children, weak in wisdom and judgment, they run away from the freely provided comfort of home? Do loving parents seek to, as justice to the error of their self-chosen way, keep them out of their garden or do they go out into the cold of night to search for their lost lambs to bring them back to life in the fold?

    “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also; and if anyone wants to sue you and take your coat, give your cloak as well; and if anyone forces you to go one mile, go also the second mile. Give to everyone who begs from you, and do not refuse anyone who wants to borrow from you. “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers and sisters, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” Matthew 5:38-48

    In what Way can we emulate as the perfect image of our Father in Heaven’s justice? Might this be the only answer to the justice of ISIS and Christian crusades of retaliation?

    “Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26

    Carnal families breeding Hatfield and McCoy justice? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield%E2%80%93McCoy_feud

    Whoever does not carry the cross and follow me cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:27

    Is the cross our tree of life that all of God’s lost children, as the ultimate gift from Jesus and the Father, now have the opportunity to eat the fruit of? The Way back home for human kind.

    What kind of justice is that? perfect

  • Barry Cole

    Rev. , I am impressed and happy with seeing this. I am in agreement, and generally desire repentance and rehabilitation. Our country fails, so often at that. And broken damaged people that cannot change their criminal and deadly behaviors are maybe lost souls we can only hope God, their maker, does a better job with them. We can say we’ve failed, and make our best efforts to seek grace, and make corrections, and attempt to reach persons before they become damaged and unreachable. . I don’t think you’ve said we will always succeed. And i believe, and i think you at least implied ( please tell me/us) that some broken and inhuman actors, might only be handled best ( given our inability to reach them, educate, or rehabilitate), if we take them out. ( drone, sniper, or, ground force). I agree that killing, revenge, or even judgement of their souls shouldn’t be our desire, we should only exercise that option to seek the justice that his innocent victims deserve, and to stop him from hurting more. We don’t do it as godly people, but as imperfect humans, using what we can to stop the advance of a menace upon more innocents. Again, we can send him to his maker to give him his best chance at forgiveness, grace, and judgment. And individually, our soldiers can make their peace with God, for doing their jobs.

    Just as the son that hits the other needs correction, support, direction, education, nurturing, he also needs limits, and known consequences. I have heard bad actors profess that their way is wrong, but they know they can always get forgiven. If the boy that hits doesn’t know limits, or get escalating punishments along with all the good stuff we use to try to help him, its possible we might have created or allowed to develop a Dylan Kleibold, or a Newtown mass murderer. There is no justice for those 30or 40 people, where it may have been possible to inflict more punishment ( I.e. incarceration) to stop the threat of more violence. If the son that hits, continues, and advances to stabbing your second son, and appears to be “broken”, isn’t it appropriate to seek justice for the oppressed son and follow the law and have the broken young man dealt with most harshly?

    I agree that in our hearts we have to maintain godly intentions, but on earth, without better answers, and with no apparent way to get godly actions in place, on time, that can work to stop additional oppression, mayhem, murder and larger scale ungodly acts by a bad actor, isn’t it appropriate to seek the justice for his past victims, and prevent further crimes, by giving him the harshest of punishment?

    Its a bugger of a discussion, and to reconcile, for me. What do you say?

    Rev Barry Cole

  • Guy Norred

    Beautifully said–perhaps the most important piece of yours I have read.

  • barbbfly

    I really liked what you said but it would mean more of you used scriptures in your article too. I know thats Jesus heart but some don’t know what He says .thx for the boost to humanity.

  • CroneEver

    I know for myself that even when I scream “Justice!” what I really want is mercy. Because bringing down justice on all will bring it down on me, too: James 2:8-13: “You do well if you really fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 9 But if you show partiality, you commit sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it. 11 For the one who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery but if you murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty. 13 For judgment will be without mercy to anyone who has shown no mercy; mercy triumphs over judgment.” I try to remember that in all my interactions with others, [no, it is not easy or comfortable – and I do volunteer work in prisons] because, by law, I am a transgressor; by love, I am a sister to all.

  • Where’s the biblical justice in killing witches, homosexuals, disobedient children and non virgins on their wedding night? Your bible is way beyond any rational definition of justice.

  • otrotierra

    Ben will be able to give a better answer, but I’ll mention that murder and hatred are easily supported by selecting verses and passages that seemingly justify human suffering. Taking passages out of context is a popular practice of those in positions of power. Remember G.W. Bush when he and his friends wanted to bomb and torture select populations in Iraq and other parts of the Middle East, all in the name of God and “Freedom”? Remember the Rumsfeld Memos to Bush with bible scriptures ripped out of context?

  • Wow, thank you for looking at both sides and calling for justice for both the oppressor and victim (which can switch on a dime.) This is so very wise and balanced and focused on how we should behave. It’s true how seeking justice can bring out the ugly side in us if we’re not careful

    Just the other week I got into a fight with a dear friend over Ferguson. Neither one of us had room or space to hear the other’s words and outrage. I felt badly that I let my hyped up emotions engage in the conversation instead of letting him say his peace. He thought I was taking the whole thing too personally. (I teach inner city kids so it’s hard not to have my own perspective from bearing witness to their stories for twenty years.) A third friend did do the justice thing by listening to me and hearing where I was coming from. He posted a blog about how there should be more both/and in the conversation instead of either or. Sometimes something as simple as listening can be an act of justice.

    Not to go off on a tangent, but do you think you might ever write about Revelation? I’ve been reading it and it sure seems like Jesus is mean even in the letters to the churches. Though I do hear a heart cry for repentance in the middle of the plagues. If you already have written about it, could you direct me to what you’ve written?

  • Alex C Smith

    I think God’s justice compels Him to restore everything to the way it was meant to be – wholeheartedly praising & enjoying Him – together, forever as He deserves!

  • Alex C Smith

    The way I like to think of it is a chess game – whatever rebellious or obedient, clever or stupid, free or determined, moves we make, God always win in the end – which is actually fantastic news because God’s victory is actually the best thing for everyone!

  • Lana

    Okay, I’m quoting this post. A thousand times YES!

  • You do realize that you’re going to get some of those justice seekers out there up in arms for this article, right?

    That said… love this… love this so much… In my mind, I always consider that, when I’m seeking justice, am I displaying the fruit that is evidence of the presence of the Spirit (Galatians 5)? Am I excercising my prophetic voice and my gift in the spirit of enemy love (1 Corinthians 13)? This is not to say that we should not call out injustice where we encounter it… but, as you said, whether or not when we are doing so it’s coming from the right heart, is using right methods, and has as a right goal the wholeness and healing of everyone…

    Thanks, Ben.

  • gimpi1

    Your point about context is valid, Otrotierra, but so is Cyrus’s. The Bible does call for executing people for being gay, practicing other religions, chronically disobeying their parents or being a non-virginal bride. (The groom gets a pass, by the way.) That’s not a matter of out of context pull-quotes, it’s Biblical law. It’s also pretty darn awful.

    Is there an answer? Why is it (in theory) right to kill a bride who wasn’t a virgin? Why is the groom not held to that standard? Why is it worthy of death to change your religious belief? Why is being gay a capitol offense? Or practicing a different form of divination than the ones that Old Testament prophets used?

    The manifest injustice of Old Testament law is one thing that really bothers me about Christianity. I know most Christians don’t regard themselves as under Old Testament law because of Christ’s sacrifice, but that assumes that Old Testament law is just, and a sacrifice was needed because we weren’t able to live up to it. It wasn’t just. Parts of it are downright evil. How do you get past that?

  • This is very complex but my first thought is that there is a difference between statutes which codify the law and justice which interprets the law. There is a biblical principle that says mercy triumphs over judgement and when you read about the life of king David, the Psalms and the prophets you see how justice is not meted out simplistically. You must also take into account that Moses law was religious, not secular. It assumed a theocracy and was concerned with securing a people for God.

    Taking your examples as a starting point, biblical justice does sound barbaric especially when we see a backdrop of fundamentalist zealots championing God’s law. Reading it more intelligently we might begin to knock down some bogies. Jesus said that if you are violently angry with your brother you are guilty of murder and if you look upon a woman as a sex object you are guilty of adultery. This would be music to the zealot’s ears except that it exposes their hypocrisy – ready to throw a stone but unwilling to examine themselves.

    With a good many Christians guilty of sorcery, adultery, disobedience and vicious anger (albeit in the name of Jesus) a literal reading of God’s law becomes pointless. Jesus said that to love God with all your heart and love your neighbour as yourself summed up the whole law which pretty well invalidates the fundamentalist view of the Old Testament.

  • Adam “Giauz” Birkholtz

    King David is one of the worst examples of how justice was meted out (it wasn’t!).

  • We could get into a blow by blow account of David’s wrong doings. You could suggest that, as a king, David got preferential treatment. But Nathan confronting David with the story of the poor farmer and his lamb is a beautiful example of mercy being more powerful than judgement. And if you look at the rest of David’s life you can see he reaped what he’d sown. You might call it poetic justice.

  • Excellent question. And I believe that the answer of “context” is appropriate here as well: but not just context of a verse (or verses) in a book/the Bible, but context of a writing within its time, space, and cultural framework. Although I am not under the OT Law (and, as a gay man, quite thankful for that), I still adhere to a faith that is built from that Law. This is a bit of a struggle for me: until I remember that the OT was not written in my time, but to people who lived thousands of years ago, when life was completely different. Cultures were completely different. Perspectives were different. Values were different. That is why… much though I believe that the Bible is God’s Word, it must be continually reevaluated and reinterpreted. What it says remains the same, but how we are to apply what it says changes depending on who and where and when we are.

    Avoiding anything related to morals for the moment: consider the Creation story. If God had written it the way it actually happened (Big Bang and all that stuff: we think…) no-one would have understood it, and even the original author would have had difficulty writing it. (Remember that even the most conservative authors maintain that the writers were not automatons, but God wrote through them and their experience.) So God wrote it based in their world-view, which we must then take and extract for what God wanted to communicate. Same with the moral questions you’ve asked about. (And at one time, the question of Creation was equally important. See Galileo.) Why is it right to kill a bride who isn’t a virgin? It is not. Why was it? Different question: and presumably because of the needs, perspectives and values of the time. When we think of these things (or when we see them dramatized) we cannot help but overlay our perspective on them: which is completely different. So I can’t understand why it was just. (Why would it ever have been just to kill gay people just for being who they were???). But I trust that it was.

    Although we think of “justice” as being absolute (God’s justice, perhaps) from our perspective it also evolves. What we call “justice” (regarding gay people, for instance) is different today from what it was even twenty years ago (believe me, I know). It is even further different from what it was centuries or millennia ago.

    That having been said, we need to move beyond the past, to what is justice today. How do we know the difference? I believe we take God up on the promise in Hebrews 10:16, that he will put his laws in our heart. I believe we are slowly moving toward God’s understanding of justice, and the full journey is documented biblically.

  • gimpi1

    Well, if you’ve made your peace with the contradictions, more power to you.

    I understand how societies change, and different societies have different needs. However, some things – slavery, double standards, oppression – are simply wrong. I find it hard to accept that an all-knowing deity that could spell out in detail what kinds of foods were OK to eat couldn’t manage to pop in a “no owning other human beings” clause.

    As to the notion that the Old Testament rules were an improvement on most societies at the time, I see no evidence of that. Many societies were better, many were worse and many were on a par with ancient Hebrew morality. Also, the idea that God would set out strict hygiene rules, but shy away from demanding compassion or fairness is pretty hard for me to swallow.

    I hope you’re right about society becoming more just. I do see improvement. My own state started recognizing gay marriages fairly recently. My co-worker and her wife were delighted to finally be regarded as simply a married couple. We are free to follow our own beliefs in matters of faith in most of the developed world. Slavery and overt descrimination is on the run. All of this is great. However, from where I sit, none of it appears Biblical. And that, to me, is a strike against the idea of Biblical morality.

  • Guy Norred

    I find I have to disagree. It was never just to kill people for being gay, and I would go so far as to say it was most likely decidedly not just unjust, but hypocritical to kill the non-virgin brides. That said, you have a huge point when you speak of the ability of the authors to understand what they write. And I completely agree that we are still moving slowly toward God’s understanding, but I don’t think the journey was fully documented with the establishment of the canon because we are still on the journey. (of course each and every one of us is in a different place on that journey)

  • Adam “Giauz” Birkholtz

    Jesus killed a newborn for David’s murder and seducing the wife of the man he murdered (the second child of this seduction is praised as the way the messiah will enter the world). Does Bathsheba and her child matter at all, or is everything including Jesus just some accessory to David’s story and greatness (scholars do suspect this story is a King David appologetic. Source: ‘Is God a Moral Compromiser?’ by Thom Stark)? The “mercy” is only from David’s subjective viewpoint (he still gets to be king and with heirs; a baby was punished for a crime the Bible dictates it would have been unjust to punish it for as it was not the one who committed the crime; Bathsheba caught up in all this drama is really getting the short end of the stick).

  • I think I misspoke. I did not mean that the process was fully documented. I meant that the origin was documented, and we have a few points along the way. From the Pentateuch to the Prophets to the NT we see better understanding. That gives us (or at least me) encouragement to continue the evolution of what we understand to be “justice”.

    Although I agree that I do not see it as just to kill people for being gay… that is using our modern understanding of what that word means. I also agree that from the twenty-first century perspective, we see that it was hypocritical to kill the non-virgin brides. I suppose part of the reason I don’t want go any further in determining what was just for other cultures (judging them, yes?)… we think our ideas are perfectly just and reaching… even reached… equality. But are they? We’re on a path… presumably the understanding of justice will get better (unless you and I are the pinnacle?) We can have issues with the way people thought a hundred years ago. What about our children? What would someone in five or six thousand years think of our society (even individuals within) and what we do regularly? Sure the society overall is unjust… but even you and I, with our “enlightened” thinking… what will they think of us then? How are we a product of our society?

    CS Lewis is one of my favourite authors. When I found out that he was effectively adamantly anti-gay, I was rather depressed. (It just rarely came up in his day, and he only wrote about it once or twice.) And that’s just a few decades. What if he had lived a hundred years ago? Or more?Their values for what constituted “just” and “justice” were different, and he was consistent with them.

  • I accept your points though I’m not sure I agree with your conclusions. But maybe David wasn’t the best example. You’ve got me thinking and I will have to look further into it. But my point was that the law of Moses wasn’t administered consistently throughout the Old Testament and according to the prophets God was more concerned with the heart than with simple legalistic obedience.

  • lorasinger

    All too often when evangelicals say “biblical justice” they are referring to the old testament. Paul told his Christians that the law no longer applied to them and that there was a new covenant, that the Law was for the Jews. In that case, old biblical law has nothing to do with them and they should look for their laws in the NT.

  • Guy Norred

    I didn’t mean to imply that we are there yet. Nor do I mean to say that when with the best of intentions, past generations acted in ways we now know to be wrong, that we should judge them for it. (or for that matter that we should judge them for doing what they actually knew to be wrong–not only is it the heart that we cannot know that is to be judged, but even if we could know the heart, it is not our place) I fully expect that there are some understandings that I hold that are egregiously wrong. My not understanding them as such may give my heart a defense and may ease forgiveness, but it in no way negates the wrongness of them. I do hope to always be on the lookout for ways I fall short, but knowing of my imperfection even when I am least aware of it sometimes does give me a certain pause–not to say I have cried over unknown sins, but I have sometimes wondered if I should. As I know you have heard many times (no doubt mostly from people trying to use it against you), God doesn’t change. I believe His justice, perfect justice, is eternal–unchanging in a way only that which exists outside of time itself can. We of course confined to a linear progression can only see as far as the horizon.

  • Mercy is really just another form of justice. The debt justice demands is simply pay by someone else… The person who is merciful.

  • Matthew

    I know Ben (somewhere) has dealt with these apparent problems found in the OT. Maybe he can provide a link when he has time.

  • Benjamin, I thoroughly enjoyed your post on justice. These are things that need to be said–frequently.

  • gimpi1

    I’ve read some things that attempt to explain these issues. So far, no explanation has proved satisfactory to me. This might be a problem with the explanations or a problem with me. That’s why I’m still looking.

    I can’t accept the idea that slavery, rape of prisoners of war or killing people for their beliefs were ever OK. I can accept the idea that societies evolve over time, and get better. I would be more comfortable with that idea in Christianity, if there weren’t some very vocal Christians out there attempting to impose Old Testament rules. For me, they kind of undo the idea that we’re improving.

    I actually corresponded with a fellow who touted the death penalty for adultery, claiming it would “improve marriages.” When I said that threatening people with death if they stray isn’t improving their marriage, it’s embalming the marriage’s corpse, he went all “I’ll take the word of God over you!” on me. It’s hard not to see that sort of person as a threat to the advancement of society.

  • Matthew

    I´ll admit gimpi1 (as I have before) that the OT is a tough nut to crack and that I am greatly troubled by some items found in the law. That said … I wonder if maybe … just maybe … when a human makes a statement like “My personal morality is more wholesome, progressive, and advanced than what I see in God´s law”, I wonder if that statement in and of itself isn´t a bit arrogant? I mean who are we to tell God how to manage things?

    Also … if God simply revealed himself and his law to match exactly what we humans thought it should all entail … I mean if it was an exact replica of human thought … there would really be no need for us humans to change at all. There would be no room for correction. It would be as though we had a God of our own making. Where would the challenge be? Where would the relationship be?

  • gimpi1

    Well, as I said, I might be the problem.

    However, I don’t accept the idea that we’re arrogant in saying we’ve improved things. It’s sort of the old “Who is the clay to tell the potter what to make?” argument. Well, if the clay can talk, reason, cure diseases, invent technology, the clay darn well should have a voice, in my view. A wise potter would listen.

    I’m not sure I understand your second paragraph. Are you saying that God deliberately made unjust laws in order to give us room to improve them? That’s a bit – well – cavalier with the lives of people burned alive as heretics, isn’t it? Again, to my eye, it doesn’t show God in a very loving light. Is that what you meant? Perhaps I misunderstood.

  • Matthew

    No … that´s not really what I was saying. I guess I just wanted to throw out there the idea that God knows better than we do, but that doesn´t mean that this piece of clay sitting in front of a computer screen doesn´t still struggle with all the troublesome items in the law.

    I look to Jesus. Although Jesus was a Jew and knew every jot and tittle of the law better than anyone, he still did not allow the woman caught in adultery to be stoned. He healed on the Sabbath — etc., etc. He taught the essence of the law … its heart.

  • gimpi1

    Oh, OK, that makes more sense. That’s one of the reasons I’m more drawn to Christianity than some other faiths, the putting of empathy and compassion above the letter of the law. It’s a message I think that’s a valuable message for most cultures. All laws can be in error. It’s hard to say what ideas of our our descendants will view as barbaric.

  • Matthew

    Well … that´s what I would encourage you to focus on then gimpi1 — the love, empathy, and compassion of Jesus Christ. Continued success and blessings as you weigh and consider.

    One last thing … pages 109 to 114 in “The Reason for God” might be helpful as you journey on.

  • Alex Moon

    Well .. we really don’t kill these sinners anymore, do we? So why bring it up? Vengeance is mine .. I will repay (saith the Lord) Now .. when sinners are warned, but do not heed the Word of the Lord, then what should they expect? They were warned, but few remember the corollary to forgiveness .. “Go and sin no more” . But, they do continue to sin. What will be their reward? Not for me to say, is it?! But .. they were warned.