So Bill Murray Likes the Latin Mass? Well, His Sister Nancy, a Catholic Nun, Likes Catherine of Siena

So Bill Murray Likes the Latin Mass? Well, His Sister Nancy, a Catholic Nun, Likes Catherine of Siena November 21, 2014

Everyone’s talking today about Bill Murray,
after he said that he liked the Traditional Latin Mass.  The actor was in Toronto promoting his new comedy “St. Vincent”, and he talked with The Guardian about the recent canonizations, sacred music and the Latin Mass.

Speaking about the liturgy, Murray tells The Guardian reporter Catherine Shoard:

“…I tend to disagree with what they call the new mass. I think we lost something by losing the Latin. Now if you go to a Catholic mass even just in Harlem it can be in Spanish, it can be in Ethiopian, it can be in any number of languages. The shape of it, the pictures, are the same but the words aren’t the same.”

Isn’t it good for people to understand it? “I guess,” he says, shaking his head. “But there’s a vibration to those words. If you’ve been in the business long enough you know what they mean anyway. And I really miss the music – the power of it, y’know? Yikes! Sacred music has an affect on your brain.” Instead, he says, we get “folk songs … top 40 stuff … oh, brother….”

Despite his unconventional on-screen persona, Murray is a conservative Catholic with an appreciation for the beautiful in music, the arts and the liturgy.

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So, too, is his sister Nancy.  Or actually, Sister Nancy.

Nancy Murray, OP is a Catholic nun, a member of the Adrian Dominicans.  Like her more famous brother, Sister Nancy finds beauty in the Catholic Church–and like her brother, she is comfortable on the stage.

Sister Nancy Murray is making her mark on audiences across the country and throughout the world, bringing to life the Dominican saint Catherine of Siena, Doctor of the Church.  With simple props and a fertile imagination, Sister Nancy portrays Catherine as the colorful, strong, passionate and enthusiastic personality that she was. Thanks to Sister Nancy’s gift of transforming herself into this 14th century saint and patroness of the Dominican Order, numerous churches, schools and organizations have become acquainted with Catherine’s fierce devotion to and love for God.

Who Was Catherine of Siena?

Sister Nancy Murray as Catherine of Siena
Sister Nancy Murray as Catherine of Siena

The Adrian Dominicans include a brief bio on their website:

Originally named Caterina Benincasa, she was the 24th child born into her family in Siena, Italy, in 1347. She later became a lay member of the Dominican Order. Catherine cared for terminally ill patients, ministered to those on death row, and provided spiritual direction to men and women in search of God. Though she lacked formal education, she is known for her many letters sent to men and women of all walks of life. The letters, filled with wisdom and spiritual guidance, were the fruit of her own relationship with God. Catherine is best remembered for “The Dialogue,” which contains the intimate conversations or prayers that she and God shared with each other. Catherine died in 1380 at age 33.

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  • LeticiaVelasquez

    Maybe Bill can get her play made into a film!

  • michigangirl

    The Adrian Dominicans are most emphatically not conservative….they fit right in with the LCWR crowd. I have a family member in the congregation so receive all the mailings – you are hard pressed to find any reference to Christ or God or the Church go about their peace and justice work.

    • disqus-YZ

      So Bill and Nancy are likepolar opposites. Hmm?

  • Will

    Is Bill Murray a practicing Catholic?

    • disqus-YZ

      I wondered about that, myself.

    • AugustineThomas

      All signs point to no. He’s lived a quite sinful life, which of course doesn’t mean he can’t be a practicing Catholic, but he hasn’t made any statements that even hint at repentance, which most people who are contrite would.
      There are also some quotes floating around the Internet that suggest that at certain points in his life he’s made some quite anti-Christian statements. Although it seems that was either bad information or he has changed in his old age, given his recent statements.
      Apparently one can never scrub away the Catholic beliefs completely once they’ve been seeded in the mind.

  • Elijah fan

    Conservative Catholic? I like him but let’s not use him as proof of the Latin Mass.
    His first wife divorced him for infidelity with Jennifer Butler whom he married and she divorced him for a series of addictions. He played a fornicator in Stripes and in Groundhog Day. Research please.

    • MattyD

      No, let’s. Let us not forget the we are a Church of sinners, and that even sinners give testament to the Truth and beauty of Latin Mass.

      • Elijah fan

        We’re over doing the Church of sinners thing…OR….we need to repeal I Cor. chapter 5 even though its inspired by God ( you may have the honors….I’m allergic to lightning) which I Cor. 5 says to “expel the wicked man from your midst.” The Amish obeyed it and have a tiny decimal of a divorce rate. We kept the mafia and now we have Mexico where 43 students are killed by a mayor, police and a gang…probably all baptized as infants. And we have a high divorce rate to boot. We’re too big on numbers and staying equal with Islam and a billion followers each.
        The case in I Cor.5 was incest. ?? expel incestuous but keep adulterers like Murray…keep both but expel child molesters…keep all three but expel apologetics people who harmonize opposites into looking like developments…lol? Keep Murray and Mel Gibson …absolutely if….if they get right with current choices…like phone threat etiquette in Mel’s case.

        • Hugh Beaumont

          Hey – maybe you can give Peter some tips at the Pearly Gates – you know – just to make sure no one gets through without your approval. (because after all – no one asked *your* forgiveness!)

          • Elijah fan

            ROFLOL. Your mentioned judge…Peter …in Acts 5 with God killed Ananias and Sapphira, a couple, who held back money by way of lying about it. The passage was an echo of Moses with God killing Dathan and Abiram and all their family when they revolted after the exodus. In Acts 5 there’s an improvement in mercy….the whole family is not killed and the earth doesn’t swallow the couple as in the OT case. If you think Peter’s a pushover, you’re not memorizing your Bible like Aquinas did…don’t worry….there’s an immense crowd with you.

          • Hugh Beaumont

            Blah blah blah. You missed the point.

          • ryan

            boy didn’t she.

        • Matt Dorry

          Pray tell then, BROTHER, for what wicked deed shall we drive you out? Is it pride, then?

          • Elijah fan

            Lol…drive me out…while not being able to drive out over a hundred pro choice legislators nor Gov. Cuomo…for forty years.
            The spiritual sins are hard to prove…read Paul. You’d think he was the apex of pride but God didn’t think so….e.g. 2 Cor.11.
            Despair…very hard to prove….Christ said, ” My God my God why hast thou abandoned me”….while not reciting the later upward verses of the same psalm out loud. Did He give scandal to those at the foot of the cross? No….but why not?
            Presumption?….Paul again…prior to death saying he had finished the race: 2 Tim.4…” I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith; in the future there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness…”
            What if he later got a torturous illness like that which befell St. John of the Cross and despaired during it? The spiritual sins are hard to prove and so were never a subject that got one excommunicated in an ecclesiastical court. Hence Paul wants the incestuous man expelled because the carnal sins are manifest but the mental ones are not. Somewhere…the Vatican began restricting excommunications to dogma errors done in writing but the early Church did them like the Anabaptists …on carnal obvious sins. The result is that you are totally safe walking in Amish territory at night but not walking in Honduras and many Catholic countries in broad daylight. Think of it. The Amish would have excommunicated Pope Alexander VI and Pope Julius III inter alia.

    • Raguel

      He likes the Latin Mass? Better judge him to make sure everyone knows what a horrible person he is.

  • In Vino Veritas

    I have been blessed to see Bill in “St. Vincent” AND to see Sister Nancy portray St. Catherine of Siena. I have always had a place in my heart for this great Saint since I went to St. Catherine of Siena School in Reseda, CA. Bill is right about the new Mass. It is still sacred because Christ is at the heart of it, but the sacred feeling has been watered down.

    • disqus-YZ

      Very eloquently put! You have agood point that I do not think I have read expressed anywhere else by those who do not appreciate the Mass of Paul VI. Both the Mass of Pius V and the Mass of Paul VI are sacred because Christ lives at the center of the Mass, but for some the FEELING is no longer there. That is why Pope Benedict XVI declared them both one rite for people who have differing needs.

  • disqus-YZ

    It is okay to like and attend the Latin Mass and the associated music. The problem comes when folks drop away from the Church calling themselves traditional catholics and claiming that there has not been a real Pope since Pius XII died. Those self-proclaimed catholics are not members of the Universal Church.

    • AugustineThomas

      What about all the leftist heretics who deny some, many or most of the teachings of the Church?
      The Latin Mass inspires fidelity to the One True Church. In most cases, the Novus Ordo as celebrated, inspires irreverence and heresy, which leads to apostasy in most cases.

      • disqus-YZ

        What a strange comment. Perhaps you are one of the sedevecantists. As Pope Benedict XVI wrote, there is one rite composed of two forms unified as one. Of course sedevecantists do not believe that Benedict XVI was one of the Supreme Pontiffs who succeeded Pius XII, so the one rite in two forms of the One True Church is invisible to them.

        • AugustineThomas

          So it’s ok if the Church is gravely weakened as long as your understanding of the relationship of the two forms triumphs? It’s better that Church numbers continue to dwindle as long as the Ancient Mass continues to be suppressed and the Novus Ordo continues to be artificially propped up by its defenders? (This seems to be the position of those who currently decide these things.)

          • disqus-YZ

            AugustineThomas: You are commenting from a point of view filled with anger and failure to open his mind to the Truth. You also seem to have some hatred towards me (and we do not know each other in real life). The Lord said he would never leave the Church. You believe he has because you choose to say hateful things rather than listen to others and ponder things in your heart.