People who live in glass houses…

People who live in glass houses… February 12, 2015

shouldn’t throw drones, Mr. President.

Finally, the *real* argument against Obama’s prayer breakfast remarks!

What wearies me about the Right Wing Noise Machine is that the constant Boy Who Cries Wolf hysteria it gins up about stupid stuff (“Secret Muslim Obama compares Catholic Church to ISIS!!!!” “The Crusades were glorious and morally spotless exercises of Christian virtue!!!” “The Sack of Constantinople Should Be a Feast Day!”) masks the actual real critique to be made of a President who has arrogated to himself the power to murder anybody on planet earth–citizen and civilian or not–His Imperial Majesty likes and rub them out by his unilateral and entirely unaccountable will alone. If Obama is really so worried about the sins of Christians (and Obama is a garden variety, lefty, progressive Christian, not a Muslim), he should start there. Confessing the sins of other, long dead, Christians is not a serious moral reckoning, Mr. President. It’s an age-old dodge for which Jesus had stern words:

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ Thus you witness against yourselves, that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. Truly, I say to you, all this will come upon this generation.(Mt 23:29–36).

The thing is, the Right Wing Noise Machine is dominated by people like Dick Cheney who believe the ends justify the means and that torturing and even murdering innocent people is fine. So they tend not to draw too much attention to when Obama does it and instead invent other stuff for consumers of their Panic du Jour to have hysterics about.

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  • Tom Beigel

    Yes and it is worth noting how often our President gets on HIS high horse as in his attempt yesterday to disavow Axelrod’s book stating that Obama lied in 2008 about his real view on the meaning of Marriage.

  • Cypressclimber

    The way you word your link, you suggest Mr. H.W. Crocker thinks the sack of Constantinople was just ducky. I saw nothing in what you linked to support that. Did I miss something?

    It’s fine to make a point; but going overboard — calling criticism “hysteria” and saying people want to make a “feast day” of the anniversary of the sack of Constantinople — doesn’t help. To borrow your own argument, it “masks” the real critique, don’t you think?

  • Andy

    Out of curiosity will those who condemn the use of drones, and say that we need to respond to ISIS with the military respond well to Obama’s request for authorization to use military force (AUMF)? An unfortunate part of me see those who complain about the use of drones will run and gladly accept his request – so we will move from drones killing to American putting their lives on the line to kill.
    Also will these same non-drone users decry the at best insensitive remarks and comments made about Kayla Mueller?

    • iamlucky13

      Keep in mind that most people commenting on the topic are completely uneducated about the details but not always without a legitimate point.

      “Drone” has become a buzzword synonymous with summary execution.

      Summary execution is the real issue. The favored tool for this at the moment is unmanned aircraft because they’re relatively inexpensive, quiet, and have long loiter times, so they work well in environments like where the current conflicts, but it’s far from the only way to commit a murder by summary execution.

      It’s important to keep in mind that summary execution is different from self-defense, where there is an urgent need to take action to prevent harm from coming to an innocent person, or from combat in defense against an unjust aggressor. It seems quite possible to me use unmanned drones in justifiable combat against an unjust aggressor.

      Whether or not we should get even more directly involved against ISIS aggression is still a question that troubles me. The only facts I’m certain of are that every time we’ve gotten involved in similar conflicts, things have gotten worse, and that the US getting involved in a conflict in the Middle East is the absolute best thing that can happen for Islamic extremist recruitment.

      • Andy

        I agree that summary execution is the issue – I was using drone as shorthand. I too am troubled by any intervention in the Middle East – as a rule we make things worse. I am not in favor of the use of drone by the way, I am not an Obama fan. My concern is putting American lives in The line of Fire us at best wrong. Today, I heard on the radio the republican/conservatives don’t think O us going far enough and the demo are afraid of no “end game”.
        My question about K. Mueller pointed out the inability for one side or the other to value lives, which I see reflected in our overarching country. Thank you for the response..

  • Elmwood

    i’m just tired of the typical liberal anti-catholic notion that the crusades were entirely wrong and that islam unlike christianity is a religion of peace or that only secular agnosticism is a religion of peace nowadays.

    obama shoudn’t have brought them up in the context that he did: the crusades were hardly proportional to the amount of evil inflicted on christendom during islamic conquests.

    i’m proud of the crusades, maybe not everything done under them. i’m certainly not proud of Obama’s bombing of Libya or Syria or what the GOP did to Iraq.

  • wlinden

    So, should we accept the knee-jerk equation of “TheCrusades” with “TheInqusition” as pure evil?

  • Peggy

    What Obama said was factually incorrect and slanderous. I didn’t see much “hysteria” but plenty of correction and yes some dismay. It’s par for the course (!) for O to distort history and express an anti-Christian, anti-white, or anti-America point of view. He persists in minimizing the danger and evil of radical Islam. There are so many examples: callously golfing after faux outrage re: Foley; several statements and inaction following Charlie Hebdo; now nothing over Copenhagen. The killings at the kosher market in Paris were “random” not targeting Jews. Sure.

    None of this is to say that Christians never sin. The point is that is not the problem today. There is no broad violent Christian threat to the rest of humanity (regardless of what American feminists may think!).

    Absolutely right that Obama is paragon of morality today. He needs to take the stick out of his own eye. The W years are irrelevant at this point.