Ryan-Led GOP Votes Full Funding for Planned Parenthood

Ryan-Led GOP Votes Full Funding for Planned Parenthood December 18, 2015

Dear “Prolife” Suckers who told me I had blood on my hands for refusing to vote Romney/Ryan. Dear People who told me that God *commanded* me to vote for Randian corporate slave Paul Ryan because he’s Catholic. I’m not going to ask for an apology since I know the Party of Personal Responsibility doesn’t take responsibility for its reckless slanders and vicious smears. But being a hopeless idealist, I at least hope that even complete suckers can finally have enough of watching the football get yanked away yet again and finally refuse to cooperate with the party that, having betrayed and exploited them yet again, will now tell them, “Get out there and lobby for guns, torture, carpet bombing, murdering civilians and, above all, maximum income for the 1%, all you rank and file chumps. Next year, for sure, the GOP promises to care about the unborn. They swear to Moloch!”

Here’s an idea: how about we stop trimming the Faith to fit the demands of the GOP and start embracing the whole of Catholic teaching?  How about we abandon the Lesser of Two Evils approach (which yields evil), reject the anti-abortion-but-not-prolife model, reject the use of the unborn as humans shields for all the rest of the GOP’s eager support of the culture of death, reject pretending that it’s “abortion vs. the rest of the Church’s teaching”, stop treating the Pope like the enemy, and listen to the whole  teaching of the Church, including the stuff that sounds “liberal” to Movement Conservatives.  It has the advantage of never having been tried, as well as of being the obviously right thing to do.  And the results can’t suck worse than the results of a failed 35 year program of enslavement to the GOP agenda.

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  • BHG

    Embracing tne whe of Church teaching means not voting for either party. Just saying

    • Dave G.

      For some. For others it means getting in there and trying to work with what we have. Just saying.

    • chezami

      True at a national level. And if any of my readers ever told me I had an absolute obligation before God to vote for a Dem, I would have said so. But my readers, when they tell me I have an absolute moral obligation to vote for a party, always and only mean the GOP.

      • Mike Petrik

        Really? Your readers say that? I’ve never read a single comment to that effect.

        • Oh, I have. Some of Mark’s commenters even followed me over to my blog to castigate me for not voting Republican.

          • Mike Petrik

            Thanks, Beadgirl — I’ll take your word for it. I’ve just never seen it or run into it, so it struck me as far-fetched. I’ve instead heard people argue that a good Catholic cannot vote Democratic (which is not the same thing), but of course that is entirely wrong too — even if at least a case can be made for it that isn’t entirely laughable.

            • Elaine S.

              A lot of people assume that “don’t vote Democrat” equates to “vote Republican” — it could also mean “vote for a third party/independent” or “don’t vote at all.”

            • Peggy R

              Remember, Mark claims a lot of things in exaggeration. He has a very big broom with which he sweeps all who do not think like he does into a category of bad Catholic.

              Good to see you letting loose here.

          • Marthe Lépine

            Forgive me for my lack of information, but I did not realize that you had a blog. Would you, please, put a link to it somewhere? I am looking for what I could read once Mark has abandoned us…

            • I think there is a link to it via Discus. But it is not at all about religion or politics, so you will find it a poor substitute for Mark!

  • Miguel

    I know. Right? Just saying.

  • Andy

    And people are surprised – why?

  • I don’t have the numbers, but I wonder of all the prolife legsiation introduced in congress over the years, how many are from the GOP? How many are from Dems? How many are from “other”? Go where the data leads…

    • Andy

      I think the answer to your question will depend on how you define pro-life. Anti-abortion, anti-torture, support for unwed mothers, family support, AUMF for reason – that is the problem with following the data.

      • I meant anti-abortion.

        • Andy

          Thank you for explaining. I will take a look at the data.

  • Gail Wentz

    Before you go off half cocked trashing Ayn Rand, remember that without Ayn there’d be no Theology of the Body.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2011/04/reconciling_rand_with_the_gosp.html

    • chezami

      Gimme a break.

    • UAWildcatx2

      See, I always thought that without St. Pope John Paul II, we wouldn’t have a “Theology of the Body.”

      • Stu

        Rand gave us “Theology of MY Body”.

        • Dave Elliot

          Theology isn’t supposed to be anthropocentric

      • Alma Peregrina

        I always thought that without God, we wouldn’t have a “Theology of the Body”.

        You know God right? The One that said that you can’t worship him and Mammon both?

    • Artevelde

      Planted! Planted I say was this gospel of the great goddess a.r. in the young mind of father Wojtyla. And if not planted, then surely it acted as a fertilizer, because it is inconceivable, and I say again INCONCEIVABLE, that any student of philosophy would not have been drinking from her divine cup.

      (Thank you for the link. Tears of laughter are still rolling across my cheeks)

      • Alma Peregrina

        Well, it is inconceivable, and I say again INCONCEIVABLE that Wojtyla, as a student of philosophy, didn’t read Marx. Then, it follows that Centesimus Anno is marxist. Furthermore, I like Marx, so it must be true.

        PS: I’m being sarcastic regarding liking Marx.

    • ivan_the_mad

      And here we all thought public revelation ended with the death of the last apostle.

    • Alma Peregrina
    • Gene Harmon

      G R E A T…..just great! I needed another reason to dislike Rand like a hole in the head. I’ve gone a whole year biting my tongue on Theology of the Bawdy and now you give me this.

      Go away Satan

    • Trevor Yale

      I always suspected their was something alien about Theology of the Body (Bawdy)
      Now, it makes sense

      • Michael Haan

        the only thing more F’ed up than
        Randian Objectivism is T.0.B.

    • Deb Wend

      Let’s see if I follow. Because of Rand, John Paul was able to give us Theology of the Body. This has led to Theology of the Clitoris. http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/21/theology-of-the-clitoris/
      And the connection was only seen by bat $hit crazy radtrad Anne Barnhardt

  • Jack Willems

    Okay Mark, as a life long republican voter, I’ll bite. You’ve told us what we shouldn’t do. What should we do in politics? You say don’t vote for the Lesser of Two Evils. And who should we vote for? If you lean towards the left on economics, all of the left parties other than the democrats (Greens, Socialist, Worker’s World) have the same views on abortion. If you lean to the right, like I do, provided you don’t think I’m evil for being skeptical of the minimum wage, what should we do? The libertarian party is not much better on abortion, and the Reform party is historically worse on immigration than the GOP. Furthermore, voting for a third party usually does more to elect the Greater of Two Evils than provide a reasonable alternative. Maybe we should start our own Catholic party. You think there is air in the room for an explicitly religious party based on one denomination, go ahead. Such a party could theoretically follow Catholic Social Teaching to a tee and would also be roundly denounced as un-American and a generally weird idea. Should we abstain from voting altogether? Not sure that counts as faithful citizenship. Tell us your solution.

    • chezami
      • Jack Willems

        The linked article seems to have two points. First, that Mark is annoyed that people seem to think that you have to vote GOP to be Catholic. Fair enough. If I have ever suggested such a thing anywhere or that Catholics who lean left should be excommunicated, may I drop dead now. But Mark goes a little beyond simply defending his refusal to vote GOP, which I totally respect. His blog posts on the subject seems to think that we are totally suckers for our votes. Which brings me to the second point. Mark points out that in a national election, one vote is not going to matter much and that we should worry more about what my vote will do to me. Granted, but it still does not help us much. As I pointed out above, none of the third parties have platforms that are any better from a Catholic social teaching standpoint. Mark himself in that article says voting is a serious matter, so I don’t think he is endorsing abstaining from voting. Finally, the other option I talked about (starting a denominational religious party) would be unpopular, but more importantly from the perspective we are talking about would not be supported by the bishops. I can only conclude that if Mark means what he says about never voting for the lesser of two evils that he just stays home every November because no party meets the bill.

        • Mike Petrik

          Mark ridicules Republicans by pointing to the party’s imperfections, but when reminded that other options are also imperfect (usually even more so) he predictably rants against secret posters who claim Catholics must vote Republican in order to good Catholics. It is kind of weird.

          • chezami

            No. I ridicule the grotesque thing that the anti-abortion-but-not-prolife subculture of Catholics has become in twisting itself into a pretzel to accommodate a Party that constantly exploits that subculture.

        • Sue Korlan

          There was in the not too distant past a Constitution Party that some people on EWTN radio were pushing. I suspect it fit the bill, but I have no idea whether it still exists.

      • Tom G

        Thank you for linking this article!!! As a recently-commenced reader of your blog, I hadn’t read this article yet. IMMENSELY HELPFUL!!

    • Marthe Lépine

      There ARE people trying to start another party. Check out the Christian Democracy Magazine on line. Another thing that would help would be to get some changes to the way political parties and campaigns are financed. In your country, it seems that the party that spends the most money usually gets elected, e.g. “the best democracy money can buy”.

      • I would dearly love to see a law passed that prevented anyone seeking a federal political office from spending more than, say, $1 million. Not only would it open the door for much better and more diverse candidates, it would drastically shorten the election season (it’s not even 2016 yet!). But money is simply too powerful in this country.

  • jaybird1951

    Obama threatened, I believe, not to sign the bill if PP was defunded in it, leading us to another government shutdown scenario, which the GOP always loses thanks to the media etc. The only way to get it defunded is to have a GOP president willing to sign the bill.

    • Pete the Greek

      Everyone is always worried about during down the federal government. Considering all of who is there now, sit it down. Then, after they leave, lock the doors and put super glue in the locks.

      I honestly don’t see how it could hurt as much.

      • I know you are being flippant, but I know a number of people who work for the government in low-level positions, who are just trying to make a living; a shut-down has a very serious affect on them. Now if the grandstanding political representatives had to go without pay and insurance, I’d bet we’d see a lot less grandstanding and a lot more actual work on their part.

        • Rebecca Fuentes

          Instead of a government shut down, we need a senator/representative/presidential pay freeze option.

        • Pete the Greek

          Except every time they ‘work’, they pile on tons more debt, invade another country or shred the Constitution even more. Might be time to look for another job.

          • Oi. You are going to blame all those people for what legislators do? The secretaries, the park rangers, all the AUSAs, people working at the V.A., the doctors and researchers at NIH and the CDC, the librarians, social workers? Here’s a list of which agencies and personnel were affected by the previous shutdown:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_agencies_affected_by_the_United_States_federal_government_shutdown_of_2013

            You really think all of them are morally complicit in our government’s misdeeds, and they should all quit and find new jobs?

            • Pete the Greek

              The “Washington Monument Ploy” no longer affects me much. That excuse for never cutting any spending (or even SLOWING THE GROWTH of debt increase) is what will finally bring the entire edifice down.

              OH NO! We can’t possibly stop this stupidly unsustainable behavior! Someone might lose their job!!!!!

              Better to just ride it into the ground, I agree.

      • Mike Petrik

        In addition to Beadgirl’s point, even if it were true that shutting down the government would not lead to serious problems or hardships, it would only end up helping PP.

  • Pete the Greek

    I wish I could say I was shocked and surprised.

  • Shellie Garrett

    I think Nancy Pelosi had something to do with this, as Planned Parenthood leverages its Congressional strength knowing Ryan can’t get GOP votes for ANY budget. It would be interesting to see if the GOP would fall on its sword to defund PP (or anything else). And that’s a contributing reason we still gave Donald Trump onstage.

  • ivan_the_mad

    “Next year, for sure, the GOP promises to care about the unborn.” But only if America proves itself worthy by electing a GOP president, and handing them Congress, then stacking SCOTUS with GOP candidates. Probably need to dominate the media too. And all of the state governor mansions and legislatures and federal and state courts. Can’t do a single thing til then. Have I forgotten any of the usual reasons which excuse the GOP from ever doing anything of substance?

  • Mike Petrik

    Yes, Ryan should have held firm and let the government shut down, which is what would have happened. It’s a strategic masterstroke which is why it worked so well last time. And the time before that too!! Y’all are brilliant!

  • William Conti

    I am still voting Republican. You have a problem with that?

  • Elmwood

    that’s why i’m not voting–i can complain and blame everyone else for electing these turds.

    • Mike Petrik

      Jesus/Mary 2016!!

      • Peggy R

        I need to see whether Shea endorses that ticket before I become a sucker and support it. I can’t make this decision myself.

        I’ll miss chatting with you when this blog goes away. Godspeed to you and yours. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, fellow voice of sanity!

        • Mike Petrik

          Merry Christmas to you as well, Peggy. Please let me know when you get to ATL.

          • Peggy R

            Well, we’ve stopped by Hartfield a couple times. I hope not to always be a stay home mom working part time.

            It looks like Jesus/Mary ain’t good enough for Shea. Great reply from you. He knows better than us all, you know.

      • chezami

        One of the many reliable lies of the GOP is the notion that Catholics refusing to acquiesce to its perpetual demands for grave intrinsic evil are “perfectionists”. As though asking not to be a party to murder is outrageous. Bullshit.

        • Mike Petrik

          Bullshit back at you. The GOP does not “demand” intrinsic evils even if all too many of its leaders support them (i,e, torture), and the point you deliberately miss is that we are all a bunch of sinners who have to decide which sinners will be placed into positions of political power. Moreover, no one I have ever read, met or encountered (and my name is real and I run in much wider circles than you) has ever suggested that it is outrageous for you to make the perfectly defensible decision not to be a Republican. So yeah — bullshit.

    • Sue Korlan

      I always say that if you didn’t vote against the jerk who got elected, you have no right to complain. If you don’t like what the two big parties stand for, at least find someone you can support to vote for.

  • “Chumps?” Are your words reflecting your own mirror?

    • chezami

      Oh I have absolutely been a chump for far too long.

  • chrisinva

    “It has the advantage of never having been tried, as well as of being the obviously right thing to do.”

    It depends on whose “it” you have in mind. The John Carr-style Social Justice warrior generation at the USCCB endorse a welfare-state agenda that has been tried plenty, for fifty years, at a cost of some $18 trillion, and it **doesn’t** work.

    Rejecting Caesar’s billion a year would free our bishops’ NGO’s and allow them to become true charities, supported by **voluntary** donations, instead of mandatory tax payments which by definition cannot be charitable at all.

    Both party establishments demean the dignity of the individual by vying to have the government do more for their respective base supporters – thus developing a dependency that 100 years ago was condemned by Cardinal Gibbons and Fr. John A. Ryan (before he later became the notorious “Right Rev. New Dealer”).

    This would demand a new dedication to truly sacrificial giving – voluntary and designated by the giver, not the bureaucracy.

    That’s what’s not yet been tried. Are you willing to give it a shot?

    • chezami

      I have in mind the “it” found in the Church’s Compendium on the Social Doctrine of the Church. Try it.

      • chrisinva

        Exactly. The Compendium repeatedly emphasizes the fundamental virtue of charity as the central force driving our search for justice. Without charity, as Cardinal George wisely observed, social justice is Marxism. Or, if you don’t like Cardinal George, without charity, “social justice” is a “sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.”

        A government cannot love. It can only command. Obedience to its commands is mandatory – by definition, not free.

        Charity, the highest of the theological virtues, is by definition voluntary.

        Only souls created in the image and likeness of God can love. That is where charity and love prevails. And nowhere else.

        Thanks for your thoughtful note.

    • Neko

      Ha Chris, you just never know when your donations are going to go to reno the bishop’s mansion or pay the archdiocese’s lawyers or the parish priest’s boy toy (or “master,” as the case may be). Good luck rustling up than billion bucks.

      • chrisinva

        Thanks for a very interest angle which deserves attention.

        Fully a third of American baptized Catholics have left the church, according to the Pew foundation’s in-depth studies.

        The Catholic conference has never inquired as to the reasons – although one of their officials tells me that in 2016 we might have the results of some fancy survey (based on “right-brain” studies), which might reveal some of those causes.

        When our bishops met in June 2002 in Dallas, they did more than just adopt the charter for the protection of children and young people; one bishop made a motion to study the causes of the scandals.

        His motion didn’t even get a second.The bishops actually refused to consider a motion to study the causes of the scandals.

        they also exempted themselves from their own charter.

        Of course, chief among those causes was the fact that a solid majority of those very bishops had enabled and protected abusers, and they had decided to circle the wagons rather than to quit, a charitable and honest decision that would have allowed the appointment of new bishops that didn’t drag around that ball and chain of profound and possibly criminal guilt.

        Regarding funding, In the late 80s and early 90s, we are told that Cardinal Bernardin recognized a drastic reduction in contributions from the people in the pews.

        People involved tell me that Bernardin’s “common ground” initiative was designed, at least in part, to pacify the restive faithful and get them contributing again. But, in the meantime, the Catholic conference increased its lobbying of Congress for taxpayer financing of its NGOs, and now, yes, along with other catholic nonprofits, they receive billions a year in federal funding – and yes, you are right, **under present circumstances** they would never be able to replace that funding with voluntary donations from the faithful.

        This is not my judgment but that of Cardinal Dolan when he was president of the USCCB: after the scandals, he said, “who’s going to listen to us?” (WSJ 033112)

        • Neko

          Well I agree with Cardinal Dolan for a change.

          Thank you for your thoughtful reply. It’s sad, really. I’m anxious and suspicious over every dime I give the church. No trust.

    • Sue Korlan

      Actually, I think St. John Chrysostom tried to get people to act this way, for which reason he was allowed to be exiled where he died. So it’s been tried and found mostly unsuccessful.

  • Peggy R

    The problem with this post and so many like it is that you’re (Mark Shea) not just criticizing the evil, fecklessness, etc., of Ryan and the GOP. [I do not defend the GOP. They are contemptible.] You take it further to condescend your readership and take them to task for their stupidity, naivety, and sinfulness (in your eyes).

    You mock your readers and the public who make the best decisions they can with the choices available. They are not likely as naive and stupid as you seem to think.

    You lack a good deal of knowledge in economic and political matters, yet you opine as a great I-don’t-know-what. I don’t hold my breath to see whether Mark Shea approves of my judgments on political, economic, or the many other matters before me in this crazy world. I know who I am, what I think, what I believe. I know what I need to do. I defer to God, not Mark Shea, for judgment.

    I am hopeful that you’ll spend this time after the blog in some discernment.

    God bless you and yours this Christmas season.

    • Charles Ryder

      I agree with just about all of Mark Shea’s positions. However, I strongly disagree with the language he uses with those who disagree with him. It is baffling that a person who is committed to Jesus continues to express himself like this after all these years.

      • Katy Siena

        Why should this surprise you? You cant be a schooled Catholic and not know that
        Very well known Catholic saints did these as well.

        Take for example St Catherine of Siena and her polemic on gays

        Claiming to be “authentic” Catholic (whatever that means) is no gurantee their actions, never mind words, reflect Catholicism

        Another example Raymond (some call her Cardinal) Burke: what are we to make of her tiara, scepter and red silk train carried by attendants? Clearly Queen Elizabeth II should be worried as Lady Burke is eyeing her slippers

        • Peggy R

          What kind of comment is this?

          • Charles Ryder

            That’s rich. I’ve pointed out to you twice about Catherine of Siena and her views on gays.

            As far as your comments about Burke — they’re repulsive.

    • Katy Siena

      Peggy Noonan also has similar sentiments

      • Peggy R

        About Mark Shea?

  • Tater Spivey

    In addition to the grotesque debt this bill racks up on our children wasn’t planned parenthood fully funded in this bill? Are any Americans able to be happy about what we are doing with our money?

    Mark if being an incoherent jerk was a virtue you would be a saint but since its not you might want to take advantage of this year of mercy. There is an open spot behind me for the confessional. You might want to take a seat I will be in there for a while.

    • Tater Spivey

      fact is the country is a failure when it comes to living out the Catholic faith which is the only way we can truly live in peace and Glorify God. There is no party suitable for a faithful Catholic.

      I am Eastern Rite and when I go to the Divine Liturgy/Mass I find its the only place on earth where everyone is equal. On any given Sunday no less then 5 languages are being spoken by all the different races of people that attend and none of the pathetic babble and attacks that goes on in the world outside the walls of the parish. The answer is the Divine Liturgy/Mass.

      Look around you at Mass if your parish is like mine you will see the crippled sitting along side athletes. those on welfare sitting with wealthy lawyers and doctors. The ugly sitting by models and after mass everyone is talking to each other like real people.

      Its the Catholic Church that has the answer and this year of all years the doors are wide open we can take people and show them it in real life. Sure its not perfect (one day it will be) but its better than anything the world has to offer and yet the world doesn’t want it.

      There will probably always be things to upset us in the worlds budgets leave the dead bury the dead lets remember what we have and try to find someone to give it away to I know I try I really do and I try not to become frustrated over the hostility and lack of interest I encounter.

  • Elaine S.

    Well, look at the bright side: maybe both Trump AND Bernie Sanders will go third party (actually, one of them would have to go “fourth” party in that scenario) and BOTH major parties as we know them today will implode.

    • Pete the Greek

      A fine wish (and a VERY entertaining situation that would be!), but I look at politics like gambling: The house always wins.

    • Katy Siena

      that is our hope as well

  • Jared B.

    The GOP has caused government shutdowns in the past, and they’re villainized for it. The GOP abstains from causing a government shutdown—fulfilling the very reason Boehner stepped down, in spite of many predictions that a government shutdown was inevitable no matter what Ryan did—and they’re still villainized. It’s damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t.

    And people have the nerve to act astonished that the GOP shows little solidarity with the pro-life cause. With conservatives like this to bash Republicans, why should they bother to think of us any differently than Democrats? We’ve sent the message loud & clear that we are their enemies no matter what they do.