insisting you are right you are not

insisting you are right you are not January 10, 2013
insisting you are right you are not cartoon by nakedpastor david hayward
“insisting you are right you are not” (ink on paper, 8″x8″)

This has nothing really to do with my cartoon, but I wanted to offer an explanation about the membership subscription to The Lasting Supper. There is a misunderstanding that I’m not sure how to clear up. People jump to the conclusion that they have to pay to be a part of the community. But that’s not really it. Some might feel I’m fine-tooth combing, but it is an important distinction I want to try to clarify.

People are paying for a couple of reasons:

  1. There are people are working around the clock to make the site amazing and they need to eat. I’m upfront about the fact that I want to do this full time, and on this planet that requires income.
  2. The members are getting tons of resources, like articles, webinars, podcasts, personal letters, personal one on one with me (I commit more time to members of this site), time together in the chat rooms, as well as free art and books, etc… tons of stuff.
  3. The site needs a gateway to keep it safe from trolls and tyrants and antagonists, and the inexpensive $7/month is doing the trick. It is working to give the people a feeling of safety in a non-confrontational environment. I love the controversy and debates that nakedpastor stirs up, but it could never provide a safe environment for processing one’s spirituality.
  4. I don’t want advertising on the site. And I despise pleas for financial support. I won’t do it. This prevents that.

The byproduct that I didn’t really expect is the community that is forming. I really thought the site was going to be about me providing my services and resources for people who have left the church, and that was it. This is why the site started out as  But when it started acting like a community, that’s when I felt it was important to change the name from mine to theLastingSupper. It felt weird people gathering around my name. The name needed to become something that better reflected what was going on there.

So, I contest that people aren’t paying for community, but that’s actually a big part of what they’re getting as a consequence. And they’re loving it.

I don’t know how to better explain it. I hope this helps those of you who have questioned it.

If you are interested in joining The Lasting Supper, CLICK HERE.

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  • Adam Julians

    Hi David,

    Thanks for the explanation. Perhps it would help if I gave my reason for subscribing? I like what you are trying to achieve. And with the introductory video you have posted about folks finding freedom but being alone and having a place for community is somethign I thik is needed and I like the way you go about doing it. I may not agree with everythign you say or do but then I have the freedom to do that on this site, right? so – that’s why I signed up to give my support with a subscription.

    Hope that helps.


  • Thanks Adam. Yes, nakedpastor is a place to debate. The Lasting Supper is not a debate forum. It’s more of a listening forum.

    Here’s a short list of what we call our “Table Etiquette”, a sort of “Rules for the Game” here:

    1. We promote the inherent worth and dignity of every person.
    2. We treat each other with respect, compassion, equality and dignity.
    3. We make no assumptions about others’ spirituality, beliefs or opinions.
    4. We encourage others in their free and responsible search for truth and meaning.
    5. We listen before we speak.

  • Rhonda Sayers

    I am paying for the first 3 of the reasons you have mentioned and by the way #4 would not upset me if the financial pressure would be relieved from you.

  • thanks rhonda. you are a great supporter.

  • Pat Pope

    I pay because I value the environment and the safe haven. For those who have a problem with it, I would ask them, “do you subscribe to ANY service whatsoever, and if yes, why?”

  • Adam Julians

    Thank you David for making the distinction between the “listening forum” of Lasting Supper” and nakedpastor for debating.

    I will look to your example of what that means for how contributions would look in either and will tailor my own contributions likewise.

    Loving the light in darkness painting by the way. Do you have any copies of that in print or is it just the original you have for sale?

  • Hi Adam. If you mean the “I Can Walk in Darkness” painting, I can make an 8″x10″ print for $40.

  • Adam Julians

    Thanks David. I would like that.