Good solid pro-family evangelical Southern Baptists

Good solid pro-family evangelical Southern Baptists October 9, 2012

Remember when we were told that Dominion Theology is just a myth?

Well here’s a new book outlining how the Bible — read “literally,” of course — should be the basis for all civil law. It’s called God’s Law: The Only Political Solution and it’s by Charlie Fuqua.

Charlie Fuqua is an anti-abortion Southern Baptist and, therefore, a good evangelical.

Fuqua says he’s just reading the Bible like any good Christian should, and that he wants American law to reflect God’s law. You know, like overturning Roe v. Wade, reinstating school prayer, expelling all Muslims from the country, abolishing the minimum wage, gold-buggery, and executing any prisoner who is not “rehabilitated in two years.” And, of course, Charlie Fuqua believes that Global Warming is a hoax and that Barack Obama is a Muslim Communist.

He also cites the book of Deuteronomy to propose “the death penalty for rebellious children.” If a rebellious child is “permanently removed from society,” Fuqua says, “that gives an example to all other children” and “would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents.”

Oh, and one other thing you should know about Charlie Fuqua: he is the Republican candidate for state representative in the 72nd District in Arkansas.

So a full-blown Dominionist/Reconstructionist can get the Republican nomination for statewide office in Arkansas? Yep. Fuqua has previously served in the state legislature, and he’s running to reclaim his seat there.

Fuqua’s book and outspoken advocacy of theocracy, however, have made things uncomfortable for the Arkansas Republican Party. The party chairman recently announced that it will stop providing campaign funds for Fuqua and for two other candidates — incumbent legislators Rep. John Hubbard and Rep. Loy Mauch.

Mauch, who represents the 26th District, is a notorious Neo-Confederate who has a history of defending slavery, praising John Wilkes Booth, and railing against Abraham Lincoln as a “war criminal.”

Hubbard recently published a book of his own, titled Letters to the Editor: Confessions of a Frustrated Conservative, in which he wrote that slavery was “a blessing in disguise” for black people, because it was better than life in Africa.

Hubbard has angrily claimed the words of his book are being taken out of context. He emailed a longer excerpt to the local ABC affiliate to prove this claim. The longer excerpt just makes him look even worse. (And that doesn’t even include the part where he criticizes school integration for dragging down the white kids.)

All three of these men, by the way, are Southern Baptists — just like Denny Burk. They’re good “convictional” evangelicals — just like Denny Burk.

But while Denny Burk is eager to spend his days questioning the “convictional” validity of which women may and may not be officially recognized (by him) as real, true evangelicals, guys like Fuqua, Hubbard and Mauch get a pass because, you know, they’re anti-gay and anti-abortion and therefore good evangelicals.

If you want a good theological critique of Charlie Fuqua’s Dominionism or the Neo-Confederate nonsense of Hubbard and Mauch, don’t look to the Southern Baptist Vatican in Louisville — for the SBC, any conservative Republican will always be an evangelical in good standing.

But if you are looking for a theological response to Fuqua, the best one I’ve seen is from Ari Kohen:

In brief, here is my plea to people like Charlie Fuqua:

Stop cherry-picking the Torah to justify all of the terrible things you want people to do to one another; Jews don’t believe that things like this are mandated by the Torah and it’s our book.

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  • patter

     Don’t tell me….let me guess….from Liberty University? Hyles-Anderson College?  Oral Roberts U?

  • P J Evans

     Oh, it’s worse than that – it’s French. /s


    Oral Roberts U

    Still can’t hear that name without my inner child saying “Hee hee Oral hee hee”

  • Sgt. Pepper’s Bleeding Heart

    If he’s going to be all biblical law all the time then at least you’ll get a mandated living wage and a requirement for a share of all profits to be given to those without wealth of their own. So that’s pretty cool.

  • Tricksterson

    And I’m sure Fuqua would be hapy to oblige.

  • Tricksterson

    Silly Jews!  Just because you wrote the Tanakh you think it’s all about you!

  • Edo

    Depends on what you mean by “canonical.” Islam recognizes the Abrahamic tradition before it as inspired, but in various ways corrupted in tradition (it takes a dim view of Ezra in an aya or two somewhere.) It also understands Abrahamic religion to be much more textual than we do (that Jesus wrote a book himself, for instance.)

    tl;dr “The Abrahamic cast of characters is all in there, and more besides, but the Torah has to conform to the Qur’an, not vice versa.”

    As to where you find stuff: don’t ask. The Qur’an was in ayas, which are arranged  into suras according to their prosody and internal links. Thematic continuity, or chronological order, were NOT considerations; outside of the shorter suras (which were revealed in a single episode) the topic changes can be breakneck. (In the longer suras, exegetes usually provide helpful information like “These ayas were revealed several years after the previous one, in this historic incident.”)

    Without a decent commentary, a biography of Muhammad, and tajwid to listen to on Youtube (the Qur’an is a book meant to be read aloud), the Qur’an can be pretty opaque.

  • Patrick

     “I remember coming across the “stone the rebellious son” law only to read
    a footnone in my heavily annotated NIV that “That, while on the books,
    there is no historical evidenced that it was ever enforced.””

    And that’s why I can never trust religious scholarship.  Its not like we have extensive evidence of day to day life in the era in which that law was penned, which we can parse through, and find notable the absence of executions for disobedient children.  We’ve got a bunch of holy texts from that era, and that’s about it. 

    And those holy texts include laws in favor of executing disobedient children.

    If that’s not enough evidence to conclude that disobedient children were actually executed, then I shudder to think what happens to Christianity upon an internally consistent application of that standard of historical evidence.

  • Jenny Islander

    No, no, those parts don’t apply because dispensations works righteousness LIBERAL BIAS.  So there.

  • Matri


  • Matri

    I was thinking it sounds like some kind of Chinese squash.

    Strangely, it is. If you pronounce the first “u” as a long double-O, it means “bitter gourd”.

  • dr ngo

    FWIW, the well-regarded business school at Duke University is the Fuqua School of Business, and since it’s pronounced “FEW-kwa,” I never thought it odd, until the dirty-minded Slacktivites drew its possible mispronunciation to my attention. 

  • It’s so obvious to me I didn’t even think it needed to be remarked upon. :P

  • If you’d like to read a dystopia of what America would be like if the religious right won, check out Rabbletown: Life in These United Christian States of Holy America.

  • There’s also America 2014, which incorporates story elements of 1984.

  • Huh? The Talmud was closed long ago. At least 1300 years.

  • The_L1985

    Time to fix my comment.  Also, time to do more research on Things I Thought I Remembered But Apparently Don’t Remember Correctly. :(

  • Tricksterson

    You’re welcome.

  • EllieMurasaki

    I think the title of one of those books was “Don’t Send Mice Through the Mail!” or something like that (something that stands as a good anti-animal cruelty law, but makes one go WTF becuase who would be dumb enough to do that)?

    I wonder if that’s what inspired the “Pass the Cat!” sequence in Fallen London. The game is somebody sticks a creature in a box, wraps it with several layers of paper, and mails it, and the recipient unwraps a single layer and mails it again, and so forth. When one gets an opportunity card that one has gotten such a delivery, one can accept the package or, if one has high enough Persuasive, one can divert it elsewhere and the resulting ruckus will reduce one’s Scandal. If one accepts it, one can either open it immediately, releasing the creature and increasing one’s Wounds and one’s standing with the Duchess (she is very fond of cats and she loathes this game), or one can send it to one of one’s Facebook friends or Twitter followers or followees who also plays Fallen London. The recipient then unwraps the last layer. If one is unlucky, one gets a sorrow-spider and Wounds. If one is lucky, one gets a cat that boosts one’s Watchful, conveys two Appalling Secrets, and departs. If one is really lucky, one gets Wounds, Unaccountably Peckish, and a Starveling Cat. I’m not sure what good the Starveling Cat is except in the storyline where rats have invaded one’s Lodgings, but it must be good for something, there’s a bunch of sidebars about it.

    The kicker in all this? In Fallen London, cats talk.

  • reynard61
  • EllieMurasaki

    Depends what you mean by ‘literally’. Etymologically, it’s ‘way to the water’ (says Wiktionary), but (again says Wiktionary) it means ” traditional Islamic
    religious law;
    it covers the totality of religious, political , socialand
    private lifemaking no
    distinction between religion and life, in other words between transgressions of moral rules (sin)
    and of social rules”. So ‘God’s law’ seems an accurate translation. And if this guy is in fact simultaneously railing against Islamic sharia and advocating an erasing of the distinctions between Christian moral rules and US social and legal rules, then it seems entirely appropriate to hammer him on the fact that he is advocating Christian sharia.

  • EllieMurasaki

    Christians of goodwill generally hold the belief that, to paraphrase I-forget-who, they are to preach the gospel always and use words only if necessary. And Southern Baptists are faith-not-works and provably stubborn about not believing facts that are contrary to their Bible interpretation (see also, cdesign proponentsists), and theology is a tad harder to prove than the age of rocks. I’ve no doubt that a great many Christians of goodwill are preaching the gospel to the Southern Baptists, but the Southern Baptists are ignoring words that displease them and don’t give a damn about works.

    I have no idea how Christians of goodwill could change their approach to reach Southern Baptists, and as I’m not a Christian of any flavor I don’t particularly care as long as we collectively find some way to get the Southern Baptists to stop discussing their hateful views in our hearing and to stop trying to enforce those views on anyone who doesn’t want to play by their rules.

  • EllieMurasaki

    I hit up DuckDuckGo for ‘Muslim Torah’ and result three’s headline involves the former urinating on the latter. So I am disinclined to believe that Muslims revere the Torah, or at least not nearly so much as the Qu’ran.
    Also :

    *Many prophets have brought messages from God* to various peoples which were inscribed into sacred books. Four books well known to Muslims are the Torah revealed to Moses, the Psalms to David, the Gospel (*Injil*) to Jesus, and the Quran to Muhammad. Jews and Christians are considered “People of the Book” because of the original revelations to Moses and Jesus.
    However, Muslims believe the Torah and the Gospel have been changed and corrupted over time. Consequently, the Quran was needed to correct the errors in the corrupted books. It finalizes the truth from God as transmitted from the archangel Gabriel, recited by the prophet Muhammad, and written down into the Arabic language.

  • I’m not sure what good the Starveling Cat is except in the storyline
    where rats have invaded one’s Lodgings, but it must be good for
    something, there’s a bunch of sidebars about it.

     There is a stage in the Seeking Mr. Eaten’s Name storyline which requires at least one (more than one unless you use Fate) Starveling Cat.

    Of course, the starveling cat also has a negative persusasive modifier, so you will eventually want to be rid of it. By, say, wrapping it up and sticking it in the mail.

  • EllieMurasaki

    Oh okay. I haven’t got to that bit yet.

    Don’t the modifiers only work when the pet’s equipped, though? And I don’t think the Starveling Cat equips.

  • reynard61

    I’d be very interested in whether there’s any actual difference between this guy’s view of “rebellious children” and that of the Taliban:

  • Syfr0

    St. Francis said that.