Neil Steinberg & Dave Gushee on the damaging idea that ‘hating gays is a bedrock of Christian faith’

Neil Steinberg & Dave Gushee on the damaging idea that ‘hating gays is a bedrock of Christian faith’ July 4, 2013

William Lindsey points us to Neil Steinberg’s recent column, which I’m tempted to quote here in full. It’s titled “Anti-gay bias loses its legal whip,” but really Steinberg’s topic is sectarian coercion — the ability to require others, by law, to follow the particular dictates of your own sect. That’s a bad idea, Steinberg suggests, and an unjust and unfair thing to do. Your religion will be better off not trying to coerce everyone else to obey your religious law, he says:

The question remains: How can McDonald’s sell cheeseburgers, violating Jewish law? Not a toughie. Answer: Because the laws of kosher don’t matter to anyone but observant Jews. … Jewish dietary law has no bearing on secular law. Jews, a scant minority, are uninterested in trying to force their arcane practices upon non-believers. …

Anti-gay Christians are now approaching their cheeseburger moment — welcome, welcome — after the Supreme Court has tossed out much of the Defense of Marriage Act and California’s Proposition 8. The legal whip drops from the fundamentalist hand, which strikes them as oppression, forgetting they can still practice whatever private dogma they like regarding gays — never marry their own gender, disown their own gay children — but gay marriage is going up on the menu in more and more states. Society is marching — running, really — off without them, into a future of gay folk living openly without fear.

It hurts, bubbie, I know. Here’s a Kleenex.

You’ll get used to it. Take it from a Jew. You get used to the world not singing along with your religious peccadilloes. (Not that keeping kosher and discriminating against gays are comparable, except as religiously inspired irrational acts). No harm in cleaving to your faith in the midst of a carnival of all you don’t believe. At Christmas, it isn’t like I suffer through all these foreign practices — caroling, wassailing, midnight massing. I accept them with humility — it’s not my party, but it’s someone’s party. It isn’t all about me.

That’s an astute point, but it’s likely to fall on deaf ears among the sort of Christians who have half-convinced themselves that being wished “Happy Holidays” at the mall constitutes a form of religious persecution. “It isn’t all about me” isn’t likely to get through to the foot soldiers of the “War on Christmas.”

Steinberg contends with a typically mendacious statement from the Liar Tony Perkins, then wraps up with this:

There is a bedrock truth below all this, one that would have been unchanged no matter what the court ruled: Gay people don’t make worse spouses, or parents, or friends. If they did, chuckleheads like Perkins would wave any scrap of evidence like a flag. But there is none, so bigots have to try to twist these advances into some kind of religious oppression — that hating gays is a bedrock of Christian faith and to try to change that is persecution.

Good luck with that one. Ask the next rabbi you see if he feels oppressed because the United States government doesn’t enforce Jewish dietary laws. He’ll take a step back — distancing himself from the crazy person — and say, “No, and believe me, we know what real oppression is.” That’s where Perkins et al. will be in 50 years, only their privately held torch will not be a harmless dietary quirk, but a shameful, refuted hatred gilded with a thin, worn and crumbling veneer of faith.

That same twisted claim — “that hating gays is a bedrock of Christian faith and to try to change that is persecution” — also concerns Dave Gushee in his recent Religion Dispatches essay, “Christians v. Gays: The Damage Done.”

Gushee acknowledges the primary damage — that being done to others by Christians, but his focus here is on the secondary damage. He’s talking about the damage done to the church as a consequence of its choosing to be a source of damage for others. He’s talking about the damage of allowing our faith to be reduced to a “thin, worn and crumbling veneer” laid atop a “shameful, refuted hatred.”

Gushee summarizes that damage in five bullet points:

• Christians (understood to mean here heterosexual activist traditionalists) have become identified with actively pursuing the denial of rights and benefits to others that they themselves enjoy. In other words, the “Gospel” has been identified with the cause of self-benefiting social discrimination against a minority group, a losing hand if ever there was one.

• Christians, claiming to follow Jesus, have become identified as the chief enemies of gay and lesbian human beings (some of whom are also Christians), and of the moral and legal rights of lesbians and gays, whereas Jesus’ enemies tended to be people who performed exactly this kind of marginalization on the despised ones of their era.

• Christians have become known for a deeply distorted moral agenda by elevating the anti-gay cause to the top of their public ethics, and this in a world afflicted by war, hunger, ecological disaster and all manner of social injustice.

• Christians have alienated gays and lesbians and their families, friends, and sympathetic allies, driving many away from the love of Jesus Christ and contributing to the secularization of American culture. They have done a great deal to create hostility to the church and closed ears to the Gospel. The saddest cases are the church’s own rejected gay and lesbian adolescents and twentysomethings. They are legion.

• Christians have contributed to the fear in society that millions of Americans are unable to tell the difference between the church and the state, or between the demands of their faith on themselves vs. the demands of their faith on those who do not share it.

I wish I shared Dave’s confidence that “self-benefiting discrimination against a minority group” is always a losing hand. In the long run, yes, the arc bends toward justice, but in the shorter run of a generation’s life-span, privilege using power to defend itself often succeeds. I’m not saying it’s not evil, mind you — “self-benefiting discrimination” against the powerless is pretty much the definition of evil — but in a fallen world, selfish evil isn’t always a losing hand.

But Gushee’s point there — that equating the Gospel of Jesus Christ with such “self-benefiting discrimination” is obscene — is dead on.

He predicts three likely ways Christians will respond to the recent Supreme Court decisions and to future victories for LGBT equality:

One is to dig in their heels and resist every step of the way, with continuing damages along the lines just indicated, and all this in an increasingly hopeless cause.

He doesn’t seem to be recommending that one. Because, again — evil.

Another is to draw a clearer distinction between church and state, and between moral and legal norms, deciding that the place to defend and practice traditional Christian beliefs about marriage is in the church, not the state.

Did I mention that Dave Gushee is a Baptist? You might have guessed that already based on that earlier bit chiding Christians who are “unable to tell the difference between the church and the state, or between the demands of their faith on themselves vs. the demands of their faith on those who do not share it.” This second, eminently Baptist, response seems to be part of Gushee’s prescription, but not the whole of it.

The third is to be open to rethinking the possibility that the core Christian norms of love, justice, and hospitality must be integrated with moral norms related specifically to sexual ethics.

Yes, please, a bit of that too, thank you.

I’m not entirely sure what moral norms could exist or survive dis-integrated from love, justice and hospitality, but that is the weird situation now facing much of the church. We’ve got some vague notion of “specifically” sexual ethics that somehow exists wholly apart from love, justice, hospitality and their corollaries and kin, such as consent, trust, fidelity, mutuality, magnanimity, honesty, kindness, joy, etc.

Those, somehow, are not regarded as integral to “sexual morality” or to Christian sexual ethics, which is what makes our idea of sexual ethics so confused and confusing — an arbitrary set of lines and laws and Rules for Other People. Clanging brass and tinkling cymbals.

The folks Gushee is desperately trying to reach here will likely view this third option as a call to something radically new, but really his call for “rethinking the possibility” here is an attempt to get them to remember something old — something that they seem to have forgotten.

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  • tricksterson

    Oh yipee! Disqus is letting me communicate again!

  • 50% of marriages do not end in divorce. That statistic was from a time when the divorce rate was exceptionally high, and even then it wasn’t as high as 50%. The statistics done to get that number were absolutely appalling.

    Here is what the best studies on the subject I’ve seen have found: 25% of women who marry at age 25 or over, have some education beyond high school, and have their own source of income, get divorced. The highest rate of divorce for women is 40%: women who marry young, have little education, and do not have their own source of income. Even these rates are pushed up by people who marry and divorce multiple times.

    Wealthy celebrities may have a 50% divorce rate, but that’s about it.

  • 25% of women who marry at age 25 or over, have some education beyond
    high school, and have their own source of income, get divorced. The
    highest rate of divorce for women is 40%: women who marry young, have
    little education, and do not have their own source of income

    But that would indicate that it’s not uppity women getting edumacation and them unwomanly Real Jobs instead of taking their shoes off and going back intothe kitchen as God intended that’s destroying the family! And keeping women uneducated and unemployed doesn’t stop them from getting ideas above their station like that maybe they shouldn’t stay in failed marriages?

    That’s unpossible! Next you’ll be telling me that tax cuts for the rich and lowering minimum wage doesn’t make everyone employed and wealthy!

    Hm… Maybe it’s the gays that are destroying the family instead.

  • aunursa

    I didn’t realize that you had cited Leviticus in error. I intended merely to correct your implication that the meat/dairy prohibition is Biblically based. Whether the prohibition in question comes from Exodus, Leviticus, or Deuteronomy is not a meaningful distinction. For Jews, in general the five Books of Moses that are in the Torah are equally authoritative.

    In other words, I was responding to your citation of a book from the Torah for the prohibition, and not to the specific book that you cited.

  • Raksha38

    Heh. In all fairness, though, maybe some of those people grew up with people like my step-father, who does indeed eat meat dishes and nothing but meat dishes all the time. If he goes over to a friend’s house, he will bring his own meat or grab a bacon double cheeseburger at a drive-thru if he suspects they won’t have “enough” meat. He even gets passive-aggressive whiny because I won’t add bacon pieces to my chocolate chip cookies!

    Yes, his cholesterol levels are terrifying. We’re all legit worried for him, at this point.

  • Kagi Soracia

    Anytime a Christian like you writes something like this, something that’s not inherently designed to hurt or reject people like me, it makes me cry a little, and feel a little less like a living oxymoron for being a gay person of faith.

  • *small voice*

    Bacon on cookies?

    That sounds like an Eldritch Abomination to me. D-X

  • *Hugs, if they are appreciated* Fred’s done a wonder of good for reconciling me with Christianity, too. This is where he earns his place.

  • Kagi Soracia

    Ahhh, thanks. :) I wasn’t sure even Fred would see that comment, given how old the post is – I’m still working my way through old LB posts, using the archives now that I’ve run out of ones that are indexed, and I keep getting distracted along the way.

  • Turns out that with bacon, there is a direct proportion between how much something sounds like an utterly batshit idea and how UNIMAGINABLY DELICIOUS it is.

  • Fred has never directly replied to a comment in the comments section that I’ve ever seen, so I don’t know how frequently he reads them. The community itself, though, there are a number of us who subscribe to threads (especially now that Disqus makes it a pain to go through threads with a lot of comments) and will often reply to old posts. ♥