In this episode, I get lost in a conversation with Deborah Eden Tull, who I wished I could have talked with for hours! Deborah Eden Tull is a Zen meditation and dharma teacher, author, public speaker, and sustainability educator. ? In our conversation we discuss her latest book, Luminous Darkness: An Engaged Buddhist Approach to Embracing the Unknown , a deep book bridging the Dharma, personal awareness, and transformation?through the lens of darkness and all that word connotes, like uncertainty, change, grief, and fear. ? I know you'll enjoy this episode, as we meander through a conversation about spirituality, living in inquiry, leading in the dark AND being LED by the dark... and showing up as we are, in our strength and vulnerability. ? And I'm sure you will be inspired by Deborah Eden Tull, as she shares a way for all of us to "navigate the uncertainty of our times" and welcome the presence of life "as it is." ? Buy the book through my affiliate link: Luminous Darkness: An Engaged Buddhist Approach to Embracing the Unknown ? Find out more about Deborah Eden Tull and her upcoming retreats and workshops: https://www.deborahedentull.com/ ? On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MindfulLivingRevolution/ ? ************** ? Check out my Substack posts for more everyday Buddhism: https://wendyshinyohaylett.substack.com/ ? If this podcast has helped you understand Buddhism or help in your everyday life, consider making a one-time donation here: https://donorbox.org/podcast-donations ? Become a patron to support this podcast and get special member benefits! https://www.patreon.com/EverydayBuddhism ? Support the podcast through the affiliate link to buy the book, Everyday Buddhism: Real-Life Buddhist Teachings & Practices for Real Change: Buy the book, "Everyday Buddhism"