In this episode, we speak with two amazing guests, LaShawn Williams and Yahosh Bonner. In addition to the work they do in their communities, LaShawn is an Assistant Professor of Social Work at Utah Valley University and Yahosh is the Athletic Director at American Heritage School and host of BYUtv’s Family Rules. LaShawn and Yahosh discussed with us what it’s like to be a Black person in America and in the Church today, how we can healthily engage in introspection to find our own biases and shortcomings, and how we can move from listening and understanding to making a difference in our communities. We’re so grateful that LaShawn and Yahosh came on the podcast, and hope you enjoy the conversation.