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Showing White People the Pathway to Anti-Racism (and Other Spiritual Journeys) EPISODE 32

Daniel Henderson, the author of "The Spiritual Journey to Anti-Racism: A Travel Guide for White People" (Quoir Press) embodies the idea that solving racism is a White People problem, not a People Of Color problem. While many well-meaning White liberals have relied on People of Color for racial education and pathways to reconciliation, Henderson has been inspired by his beliefs to pro-actively use his platform to guide White people on dismantling the systems that continue to perpetuate racial inequality OURSELVES. Our conversation covers Henderson's background in education and religion, his transition from Evangelical to a system of belief that more authentically fit his conscience (chronicled in his earlier book "Confessions of a Recovering Evangelical,"), and how that transformation led to his mission to do the work of dismantling racism. Henderson's story of belief goes back as far as the moment in 1966, when he "went forward" at a Billy Graham Crusade to give his life to Christ, up through the moment 40 years later, in 2005, he walked away from the traditional Evangelical church for a more authentic faith. With a 40-year career as an educator, speaker, writer and historian, Henderson continues today to encourage others to find their faith, embrace doubt, ask hard questions, and find their own spiritual path.Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)

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The BIBLE and LGBTQ+ Inclusion: The Idolatry of Romans and The Vice Lists (Part 3 of 4)
PART 3 of 4: Many Christians wonder how it is possible to be LGBTQ+ affirming in light of what most people assume to be a clear anti-Gay message in the bible. This episode wrestles with ROMANS 1, and the VICE LISTS in 1 Corinthians and 1 TIMOTHY. In this special 4-part series, Kelly examines how affirming Bible scholars view the 6 verses in the Bible that deal with same-sex relationships in the context of their time and place, and ask whether these really are sweeping prohibitions of all same-sex relationships, or are about specific issues in a certain time--including violence, idolatry, and religious difference--that may not apply to modern LGBTQ+ people and relationships. (TW: Sexual Assault, Rape, Incest, Slavery, Infanticide) Many thanks to Justin Lee, Colby Martin, Thomas Oord, and the Q Christian Fellowship, from whose scholarship we borrowed liberally! Justin Lee: https://geekyjustin.com/ Colby Martin: https://www.colbymartinonline.com/ Thomas J. Oord: https://thomasjayoord.com/ Q Christian Fellowship: https://www.qchristian.org/ 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted a Culture https://www.1946themovie.com/ Also, remember to find us at Theology Beer Camp https://www.eventbrite.com/e/theology-camp-the-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 And use our discount code RADICALHOBBIT to save $50 on tickets! Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
The BIBLE and LGBTQ+ Inclusion: Love as the Interpretive Lens
PART 4 of 4: Many Christians wonder how it is possible to be LGBTQ+ affirming in light of what most people assume to be a clear anti-Gay message in the bible. This episode summarizes all the verses we've studied so far, and weighs them against the larger backdrop of the Biblical principles of Love, Grace, and how we are called to treat others. Love doesn't necessarily mean accepting everything others do, and all though under the law of love, everything is permitted, not everything is beneficial--but love also desires more than just compelling others to do good. It desires their THRIVING. In this special 4-part series, Kelly examines how affirming Bible scholars view the 6 verses in the Bible that deal with same-sex relationships in the context of their time and place, and ask whether these really are sweeping prohibitions of all same-sex relationships, or are about specific issues in a certain time--including violence, idolatry, and religious difference--that may not apply to modern LGBTQ+ people and relationships. (TW: Sexual Assault, Rape, Incest, Slavery, Infanticide) Many thanks to Justin Lee, Colby Martin, Thomas Oord, and the Q Christian Fellowship, from whose scholarship we borrowed liberally! Justin Lee: https://geekyjustin.com/ Colby Martin: https://www.colbymartinonline.com/ Thomas J. Oord: https://thomasjayoord.com/ Q Christian Fellowship: https://www.qchristian.org/ 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted a Culture https://www.1946themovie.com/ Also, remember to find us at Theology Beer Camp https://www.eventbrite.com/e/theology-camp-the-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 And use our discount code RADICALHOBBIT to save $50 on tickets! Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
The BIBLE and LGBTQ+ Inclusion: How Affirming Christians Got Here from There (Part 1 of 4)
PART 1 of 4: Many Christians wonder how it is possible to be LGBTQ+ affirming in light of what most people assume to be a clear anti-Gay message in the bible. In this special 4-part series, Kelly examines how affirming Bible scholars view the 6 verses in the Bible that deal with same-sex relationships in the context of their time and place, and ask whether these really are sweeping prohibitions of all same-sex relationships, or are about specific issues in a certain time--including violence, idolatry, and religious difference--that may not apply to modern LGBTQ+ people and relationships. (TW: Sexual Assault, Rape, Incest, Slavery, Infanticide) Many thanks to Justin Lee, Colby Martin, Thomas Oord, and the Q Christian Fellowship, from whose scholarship we borrowed liberally! Justin Lee: https://geekyjustin.com/ Colby Martin: https://www.colbymartinonline.com/ Thomas J. Oord: https://thomasjayoord.com/ Q Christian Fellowship: https://www.qchristian.org/ 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted a Culture https://www.1946themovie.com/ Also, remember to find us at Theology Beer Camp https://www.eventbrite.com/e/theology-camp-the-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 And use our discount code RADICALHOBBIT to save $50 on tickets! Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
The BIBLE and LGBTQ+ Inclusion: Navigating Sodom and the Abominations (Part 2 of 4)
PART 2 of 4: Many Christians wonder how it is possible to be LGBTQ+ affirming in light of what most people assume to be a clear anti-Gay message in the bible. This episode continues this exploration by taking on the story of Sodom, and investigating what are the "abominations" in the laws of Leviticus. In this special 4-part series, Kelly examines how affirming Bible scholars view the 6 verses in the Bible that deal with same-sex relationships in the context of their time and place, and ask whether these really are sweeping prohibitions of all same-sex relationships, or are about specific issues in a certain time--including violence, idolatry, and religious difference--that may not apply to modern LGBTQ+ people and relationships. (TW: Sexual Assault, Rape, Incest, Slavery, Infanticide) Many thanks to Justin Lee, Colby Martin, Thomas Oord, and the Q Christian Fellowship, from whose scholarship we borrowed liberally! Justin Lee: https://geekyjustin.com/ Colby Martin: https://www.colbymartinonline.com/ Thomas J. Oord: https://thomasjayoord.com/ Q Christian Fellowship: https://www.qchristian.org/ 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted a Culture https://www.1946themovie.com/ Also, remember to find us at Theology Beer Camp https://www.eventbrite.com/e/theology-camp-the-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 And use our discount code RADICALHOBBIT to save $50 on tickets! Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
Episode 18
Lori Adams-Brown: Surviving and Thriving After Church Abuse
This week Kelly talks with Lori Adams-Brown, who has an amazing story of resilience and healing after religious abuse from her work in a prominent megachurch. As this podcast is launching, the Southern Baptist Convention is having their annual meeting to talk about, among other things, the role of women in the church (and honestly, the role of women in life!) Lori is unique in that she has had a role of "Pastor" in a church that said it was pro-women, but found it was a front for exclusion, aggression, and abuse. In addition to her healing journey, Lori also talks about the work she does now, as a consultant and coach, bringing her spiritual lessons with her as she works for inclusion in that other sacred space--the workplace--and creating safe avenues for whistleblowers to make their voices heard. Lori Adams-Brown is a business and nonprofit executive and inclusivity specialist with 30 years experience of living and working abroad in Central & South America, Asia and the San Francisco Bay Area. Lori is is a combination of international speaker, business executive, podcaster and relief and development expert. She hosts the popular podcast "A World of Difference," celebrating humanity’s unique differences and encouraging us all to make a difference around the world. Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
Episode 24
Crisis, Control, and Christian Nationalism: Tim Whitaker on How We Got Here
We're excited to welcome Tim Whitaker (founder of The New Evangelicals) to share his expertise on Christian Nationalism--how it started, how it is growing, and what those who are driving this movement are saying behind closed doors. Tim is a podcaster and frequent commentator on the state of evangelicalism and the intersection of politics and religion in the United States. Tim is host of "The New Evangelicals" podcast and is co-host and frequent guest on a number others, and has a significant presence on other social media. Tim will also be appearing with us October 17-19 in Denver at Theology Beer Camp (where there are still tickets available--search for it at Eventbrite, and save $50 with our code, RADICALHOBBIT.) About Tim Whitaker, from The New Evangelicals Website: Growing up, Tim always felt at home in evangelical spaces – until years later, when his studying and questions caused him to no longer be welcomed at in his church community. Brokenhearted, but undeterred, Tim continued to pursue a deeper understanding of faith, history, theology and the evangelical church. The more he uncovers, the more he realizes the importance of advocating for the marginalized in the church, exploring the full depth and breadth of Christian faith traditions, and holding toxic churches and leaders accountable.Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
Episode 25
What the Jewish Jesus can teach all of us, with Amy-Jill Levine
This week we have a lively conversation with Amy-Jill Levine, who is a distinguished scholar of the New Testament and Jewish Studies (and who is Jewish herself), about Jesus and the New Testament in the light of how he would be understood in the Jewish context of the first century--as well as what Jesus has to offer to the world now, even to people who are not Christian (or even religious at all). This conversation offers some eye-opening perspectives on the deeper meanings of the parables of Jesus, how the teachings of Jesus are based in the Torah rather than diverging from it, and how misreadings of the Bible have led to historic antisemitism--but that a closer reading of the Bible can lead to dialogue and even coexistence of different faiths. Amy-Jill Levine is the author of countless books, including the upcoming "Jesus for Everyone: Not Just Christians." She is Rabbi Stanley M. Kessler Distinguished Professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Hartford International University for Religion and Peace and University Professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies Emerita and Mary Jane Werthan Professor of Jewish Studies Emerita, at Vanderbilt. Find out more about her at her FB page (link below) and find her books wherever books are sold. #christianity #judaism #jesus #deconstruction #interreligious #spirituality Amy-Jill Levine https://www.facebook.com/AmyJillLevine https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Atheists-Still-Matters-Secular/dp/0062216724 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get Information and Tickets for Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
Episode 26
The Raceless Gospel": A Call to New Baptism with Rev Starlette Thomas
This week we have a prophet in the house! Mark and Kelly have an eye opening conversation with Rev Starlette Thomas--author, artist, race abolitionist--that we hope will stir you to action as much as it did for us. The topic of conversation is "The Raceless Gospel," the concept that the church in North America is built on a caste system called race, and needs a new baptism to wash away the sin of segregation. Not colorblindness, not post-racialism, but dying to ourselves and our relationship to race. Star Thomas challenges us look at ourselves honestly, release the sins of the past, and dive into our Christian values to continue to strive for justice and equality in this world--otherwise, she asks, what are we here for? Starlette Thomas is an author, activist, visual artist and race abolitionist. She is an associate editor and the director of The Raceless Gospel Initiative at Good Faith Media, which was inspired by her work and witness and is dedicated to leading didactic dialogues on race and its progeny. The Raceless Gospel aims to empower Christians to speak about the sociopolitical construct of race and the myriad injustices that intersect in their churches, communities and country. She is also the author of "Take Me to the Water: The Raceless Gospel as Baptismal Pedagogy for a Desegregated Church," and is host of The Raceless Gospel PodcastRemember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
Episode 27
Brother Timothy Jolley: A Monk’s Devotion to Love and Action | Radical Love Live S3E19
Mark talks with Brother Timothy Jolley, a life professed monk of the Order of the Holy Cross, an Anglican Benedictine monastic community of men, associated with The Episcopal Church, located in West Park, New York. Br. Timothy joined the monastery over 50 years ago with a calling to serve a vocation dedicated to children’s education, spiritual evolution, and spiritual direction. Our conversation covers how Br. Timohty was called to become an Anglican monastic, his work with the formation of the Holy Cross School in Grahamstown, South Africa, what can happen when we show radical welcoming to a guest, and how he lives out the founder’s mission statement: “Love must act as light must shine forth and fire must burn.” Find out more about Holy Cross, their beautiful campus on the banks of the Hudson River offering many types of retreats, and the monastic life at www.holycrossmonastery.com. Please support the Love Must Act and the Holy Cross School by visiting www.lovemustact.org. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get Information and Tickets for Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get Information and Tickets for Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
Episode 28
The Many Lives of Dina Nina: A Journey of Faith, Courage, Resilience, and Joy
(Part 1 of 2) Oh my gosh, what can we say about Dina Nina? This was an incredible conversation, so jam-packed we made it a two-part episode, with the fabulous Dina Nina Martinez-Rutherford, whose bio includes Performer, Speaker, Politician, Queer Clergy, and "a little woo woo." We cover a wide range of topics from her conservative upbringing to her journey to finding herself to entering ministry: jumping into politics: being the FIRST transgender woman elected to office in Madison, WI: her passion for comedy and performing; her faith and spirituality; mystical experiences and past lives; healing trauma, and so much more. There is so much joy and feeling in these episodes, we are moved and blessed to have Dina Nina as a guest, and to call her a friend! In addition to her life as a speaker, comedian, counselor, minister, and civic leader, Dina Nina also leads Light of Love Fellowship, an inclusive and affirming faith ​community, an organization which aims "to encourage connection with the divine, ​provide a safe space for those who have faced adversity within ​faith communities, and promote love as our guiding principle." Dina Nina Martinez-Rutherford: https://dinanina.com/ Light of Love Fellowship: https://lightoflovefellowship.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dinaninaxo/Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
Episode 29
The Many Lives of Dina Nina Part 2 | Radical Love Live S3E28
(Part 2 of 2) More more more! What can we say about Dina Nina? This was an incredible conversation, so jam-packed we made it a two-part episode, with the fabulous Dina Nina Martinez-Rutherford, whose bio includes Performer, Speaker, Politician, Queer Clergy, and "a little woo woo." We cover a wide range of topics from her conservative upbringing to her journey to finding herself to entering ministry: jumping into politics: being the FIRST transgender woman elected to office in Madison, WI: her passion for comedy and performing; her faith and spirituality; mystical experiences and past lives; healing trauma, and so much more. There is so much joy and feeling in these episodes, we are moved and blessed to have Dina Nina as a guest, and to call her a friend! In addition to her life as a speaker, comedian, counselor, minister, and civic leader, Dina Nina also leads Light of Love Fellowship, an inclusive and affirming faith ​community, an organization which aims "to encourage connection with the divine, ​provide a safe space for those who have faced adversity within ​faith communities, and promote love as our guiding principle." Dina Nina Martinez-Rutherford: https://dinanina.com/ Light of Love Fellowship: https://lightoflovefellowship.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dinaninaxo/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get Information and Tickets for Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces) Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
Episode 30
Can Mysticism Save America? with Dr. Bruce Epperly
This week we talk with Rev. Dr. Bruce Epperly, the multi-talented theologian, minister, professor, author, and pioneer in process/relational theology about one of his latest books, "Homegrown Mystics: Restoring Our Nation with the Healing Wisdom of America's Visionaries." We talk about what mysticism is, what it means to be a mystic in the Christian tradition (and others), key mystics in American history, and how Dr. Epperly's experiences with mysticism deepened his faith while also expanding his horizons. We also talk about how narrow and restrictive some traditional strains of Christianity can be, and how connecting with the Spirit can transform people and society as a whole. A great listen, as we cover a wide range of topics, history, and traditions. Epperly's bio, in his own words, from his website www.drbruceepperly.com: "I am a theologian, spiritual guide, pastor, professor, and author of over sixty books. I regularly speak in person and on Zoom at conferences, seminars, churches and classes studying my books. I believe that we are all mystics, and that there is a mystic in you. Each of us, whether we are spiritual, religious, agnostic, seeking, struggling with belief, is on a holy adventure.Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
Episode 33
What the Bible REALLY Says about Marriage...and More Surprises! with Dr. Jennifer Bird
Jennifer Bird,PhD, knows a lot about the Christian Bible--including what's in it and also what isn't in it. This eye-opening conversation covers both ends of that spectrum, using Bird's book "Permission Granted: Take the Bible Into Your Own Hands" as a launching off point about what she discovered about the Bible, how our reading of the Bible impacts so many aspects of our culture, and why Biblical literacy is so important. We also dig in deeper on the subjects of "Biblical marriage" and women in Christianity, two subjects about which she is passionate, which she addresses head-on in her most recent book, "Marriage in the Bible: What DO the Texts Say?" From her bio at JenniferGraceBird.com: Her background within the United Methodist Church, education in a Presbyterian affiliated institution, more than a decade spent in several ministerial contexts, six years of graduate work in biblical studies, and more than 25 years of teaching in classrooms of all kinds all inform her approach to having quite honest, and sometimes difficult, conversations about what is actually to be found in the scriptures of the Christian Bible. You can also hear Jennifer regularly on the Wild Olive podcast (with Jeanne Petrolle,) as well as many other podcasts, lectures, videos, and more! Find Jennifer at: https://www.jennifergracebird.com/ https://www.instagram.com/moxieprof/ https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.grace.bird https://www.youtube.com/@JenniferBirdPhD https://www.tiktok.com/@jbird.moxieprof Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)