Who Are Red Letter Christians? Why Are They Called That?

What are “Red Letter Christians?” How do they relate to all Scripture?

Red Letter Christians

Red Letter Christians are growing in number and popularity Christians, so we need to know what they are, or really, who they are and what they believe. I have a Red Letter Bible where Jesus’ words are in red, and that’s why that Bible bears that name, but Red Letter Christians are not believers who only read and teach the red letters in the Bible (Jesus’ words alone), but they do emphasize Jesus’ teaching more than others, focusing more on the words of Jesus, and strive to follow in His footsteps, so Red Letter Christians are a lot more than those who simply read the sayings of Jesus and that’s all, however, there’s a vast differences between a Red Letter Bible and a Red Letter Christian. I didn’t buy my Red Letter Bible (about 25 years ago) in order to focus only on Jesus’ words. I certainly didn’t buy it so that I could just pass over all the other Scriptures, because if we did, what would we make of the Old Testament? I bought the Red Letter Bible because I liked the translation, not because of the red letters, and if I read only the red letters, and zeroed in on them alone, I could read “through the Bible” in just a few days. That would be a huge mistake. I currently reading the four gospels, Matthew to John, and then starting over again, but I also read Old Testament Scriptures every day too, but I would not call myself a “Four Gospel Christian” just because I’m going through the four gospels. Next month, I’m going to do the same with the Book of Romans and spend about 3 months reading the same book so I become highly familiar with it. I do this in order to know as much of the Word of God that I can.

Red Letter Beliefs

What Red Letter Christians believe (not all) is that Christians should be questioning the cultural norms of society while trying to affect it. They believe this can lead to wholeness; however the culture’s not the first problem. We are! We all, 100% of us, fall infinitely short of God’s glory (Rom 3:23), and not one of us are “good” or even seek after God (Rom 3:10-12). Wholeness is not achieved through seeking to change the culture but changing ourselves by God’s Spirit! With such an agenda as to challenge the cultural norms, Red Letter Christians fight for the well-being of all people “as children of God.” It sounds good and society loves the idea that we’re all the children of God, and yes, I agree, we should advocate for those disenfranchised in the world, seeking to serve them (Matt 25:34-39) as serving Christ (Matt 25:40), but not everyone is a child God. [1] I believe all people are created by God and made in the image of God, but even Jesus told the self-righteous Jewish leaders, “You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies” (John 8:44), and “You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also” (John 8:19), so can someone be a child of God if they don’t know their Father? Were these religious leaders really the children of God? Jesus said, “No!” It takes the Spirit of God and a person of God to share the Word of God to make the children of God for the glory of God. Changing the culture doesn’t save anyone. I agree we are to be salt and light to a dark and decaying world, but our first obligation is not changing the culture but seeking to have the Spirit of God change us and others so that they might know Christ. I do appreciate their willingness to work alongside others of different faiths (or no faith), but wholeness doesn’t come from trying to change society; wholeness comes from repentance and faith. Change can come to the culture, but it first must come to us. We cannot change the culture until God first changes us.

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Red Letters

My old Bible that has Jesus’ words in red letters is great when I want to read Jesus’ teachings, but I don’t want to stop there because Paul was taught by Christ for three years, while the disciples had the same kind of intensive training with Christ for three years. That must have surpassed the best seminaries of history. You could say they were taught in the Master’s College by the Master Himself, and they didn’t have to study to find out what was true. They had the Truth in front of them (John 14:6), so yes, Jesus’ words are important, but to give less importance or minimize the remaining Scriptures, is to do an injustice to the Word of God. Having the whole Word in context is essential for understanding the truth. Some Red Letter Christians have stated that they believe Christians to the “far right” (whatever that means!) spend too much time fighting against things like abortion, but not enough on social issues, so are they saying that abortion isn’t a social issue? [2] This movement clearly seeks to fight against the far-right, but to me, it’s not about the “far right.” It’s about being right!

The Whole Word

When we give less regard, attention, or study to the Scriptures outside of Jesus’ words, we’re limiting the very Word of God which has the power to save (Rom 1:16; 1st Cor 1:18), and besides, “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness” (2nd Tim 3:16), not just Jesus’ words. It must be the whole Word in the whole context or you could have holes in your theology. All Scriptures is profitable, not just the gospels. When the Apostle Paul wrote that, all they had were the Old Testament Scriptures, so when Paul said that “All Scripture” is “God-breathed,” then he meant all of the Old Testament for sure, and we need the whole Word of God, so “that the man (and woman) of God may be complete, equipped for every good work” (2nd Tim 3:17).

Conclusion

I understand that RLC’s are not voiding the rest of the Word of God but seek to live out the teachings and principles of Jesus in society in order to effect change, and I realize that most are not discarding the rest of the Word of God and ranking those in red over those in black, so make no mistake about it; Red Letter Christians are our brothers and sisters in Christ, but we must also remember that it takes the whole Word of God to better understand the whole counsel of God, so to restrict particular Scriptures based upon Jesus’ words alone, is to choose for ourselves what we want to accept from God and what we don’t want to bother with. RLC’s may not agree with our fight for life (pro-life), and they may considered that “far right,” but it’s right in the sense that we are not supposed to murder. RLC’s statement, “You can only understand the rest of the Bible when you read it from the perspective provided by Christ,” sounds good, but Jesus is the Word of God (John 1:1, 16), and all of the Word of God must be taken up…not just parts. Apparently Jesus wasn’t a Red Letter Person because He quoted Genesis, Leviticus, Psalms, Isaiah, and many of the other books in the Old Testament, and Jesus clearly opposes abortion because He is the Author of Life (Acts 3:15). Isn’t that worth striving to change our culture for….fighting for a human life to be sparred? It disturbs me when I see Red Letter Christians trying to counter the far-left (Thank you Tony Campolo), when they are actually countering the “far right” in trying to save lives. What part of the whole Word don’t they understand, in particular, the verse that says, “You shall not murder” (Ex 20:13), so you see, all of the Word of God is profitable, particularly if it saves a baby’s life!

1. “What is RLC?” Red Letter Christians.com. https://www.redletterchristians.org/what-is-rlc/ (Accessed, Aug. 11, 2017).

2. Campolo, Anthony ‘Tony’ (2006-02-27). “What’s a ‘Red-Letter Christian’?”. Beliefnet.com (Accessed, Aug. 14, 2017).

Article by Jack Wellman

Jack Wellman is Pastor of the Mulvane Brethren Church in Mulvane Kansas.  Jack is a writer at Christian Quotes and also the Senior Writer at What Christians Want To Know whose mission is to equip, encourage, and energize Christians and to address questions about the believer’s daily walk with God and the Bible. You can follow Jack on Google Plus or check out his book Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.

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  • pud

    Tell us jack…Who exactly followed your “jesus” around to write down exactly the words quoted in the “red letters” even when your story book jesus was ALONE?

    Tell us jack ….”paul” who was a murderer, lunatic who suffered visions who NEVER met your story book “jesus” …how was he taught by the “master”?

    Tell us jack….The “master” …why did your story book “jesus” heal a few people and yet refused to eradicate the diseases and causes of those ailments?

    Tell us jack….The “master” …why did your story book “jesus” support slavery? Do you support slavery jack?

    Tell us jack…Who wrote mathew, mark, luke and john?

    Tell us jack…The name of one of the “500” who supposedly saw your dead “jesus” wandering around

    Tell us jack…How many of the letters of “paul” the murderer who suffered visions are forgeries and why you would model your life after a murdering psychotic lunatic who had visions

    That should keep you busy…I fully expect you not to answer as usual

    • Sam Andrew

      The perfect answer to all your questions is of course, God works in mysterious ways, his ways are higher than ours!!!

      More precisely, maybe a few literate followers (tax collectors) wrote down some quotes of Jesus but wouldn’t be many.

      Paul made up his own strange belief system based on his attempt to reconcile his Jewish upbringing with his hallucinations and probably guilt at his violent actions.

      Jesus was most likely performing what we would now term faith healing, similar to that done by Hindu mystics and ‘exorcists’ to this day, in the context of the time people believed demons etc. were real, hence he could exert a powerful placebo effect on them in that cultural context, but had no magic power to cure diseases.

      Other issues are due to the bible being a one sided, at times highly fictionalised account of Jewish history (some of it is fairly accurate in historical details but is encased in narrative, much like world war 2 movies which are based on real historic period but contain fictional characters and elements) and wisdom literature.

      Probably about half of Pauls letters are edited in some way, possibly not so much forgeries as compilations of speeches and other writings crafted by some of his followers into letters, likely to encourage people to remain true to Paul’s version of Christianity over the competing brands around back then.

      Why model your life after a “murdering psychotic lunatic” like Paul, probably because that was the culture he was raised in, much like Muslims model their life after Muhammad who arguably also had some kind of serious mental health issue(s) and was, it seems a slaver, bandit (raiding caravans) and warlord.

      • pud

        It cannot be demonstrated that any “jesus” divine or otherwise actually existed…the christian lunatics don’t even realize the depth of the hole they need to climb out of before they can start babbling doctrine and such.

        As to modeling ones life after murdering psychotic “paul” I’m not referring to people of his day, I’m questioning the sanity of anyone today doing so! lol

        • Sam Andrew

          Well I get the Christ myth theory, I think there was some kind of Historical Jesus, undoubtedly there were a lot of religious guys wandering round starting small cults back then (Paul being case in point), much like a historical Buddha or Confucius, doubtless some charismatic, socially disruptive, innovative thinking individual existed and has had a whole lot of other peoples ideas back cast onto him.

          Oh yeah I get that, what I meant was the only reason anyone today would go along with it is because they have been taught to since they were a child, like Muslims today think Muhammad is the paragon of humanity and to be emulated (down to the funny beard), they often don’t know any better.

          • pud

            Right….could have been some deluded lunatic cult leader that went by the name of “jesus” …nevertheless given how scant ANY evidence of this characters existence is, it seems only the most gullible and credulous could subscribe to the obvious mythology built up around this “jesus” real or mythical.

            All religious cults rely on indoctrinating the young before they reach the age of reason. This is why I despise jack so much.

          • Sam Andrew

            Well yeah that’s the thing, I imagine some Jewish Hippie, probably called Joshua (shortened to Jesus) would be rolling in his grave if he knew what his followers were claiming about him and doing in his name. Chinese history I find is informative on this point, China was far more literate than Judea back then, yet people like Lu Tzu (‘author’ of Tao Te Ching) Sun Tzu (art of war) still probably didn’t say 80% of what is attributed to them, they just served as a focal point for other writings and ideas, which is not a problem as neither of their lives are that important compared to their writings. Christianity’s problem is a particular Jesus existence and deeds are essential to the truth of their belief system, if hippie Joshua existed but miracle working ‘Christ Jesus’ didn’t their belief system still falls apart, in fact I think discovery of evidence of a historical Jesus could wreck Christianity if it points to him being, as the Gospels themselves try to cover with mythology, just another religious dude wandering around upsetting the establishment.

          • pud

            You’re way too rational and educated. Everything you write will be dismissed and shrugged off by the “believers”

  • Sam Andrew

    I think Red Letter Christians are far more true, in terms of source material, to what the original church would’ve been like in terms of teachings than later generations. For the first followers, all they had was the Old Testament and their memories (and possibly some written quotes) of Jesus sayings. For those first years (and thereafter for the Jewish followers of Jesus) Paul had no input, and his claim to have been taught by Jesus on a wilderness trip to Arabia after a vision is a pretty unconvincing argument for believing his interpretations and views – after all his letters are simply Pauls opinion an no one else’s about specific churches and theological issues, and by his own admission he was in argument on some pretty key issues with the Jerusalem church who have a much better claim to authenticity of teaching . Later Gospel writers created a narrative around the memories people had of Jesus, faithful to the message rather than verbatim, so in that way the closest you can get to Jesus real teachings is probably the ‘Red letter’ quotes that are consistent across Gospels (including apocryphal ones e.g. Thomas).

    • pud

      You are presuming an actual “jesus” existed which is a very large leap considering there is NO extra biblical story book evidence whatsoever

      • Kristie Richardson-Mobley

        You really talk it up without knowing don’t you? Titus Flavius Josephus, was a first-century Romano-Jewish scholar, historian and hagiographer, who was born in Jerusalem,this man has many writings and refers to Jesus and none of his writings are part of the bible

        • pud

          Stop making a public embarrassment of yourself! LOL Josephus was NOT contemporary! Was NOT an eyewitness and the entries about christians in “History of the Jews” was just that…about the christian CULT not any “jesus”…The mindless quote you lunatics cite has been PROVEN to be a forgery stupid! LOL Do some homework next time..you clearly know absolutely NOTHING of which you babble

        • Aren’t references to Jesus in the writings of Josephus seen by most scholars as later interpolations?

    • NathansFather

      Keep in mind that it is possible and I say important to go through the Old Testament and mark all direct quotes of GOD and underline them in red. For Jesus indeed is the GOD of the Old Testament also. He, Himself calls Himself the Word.
      King David recognizes Him as “… The Lord of my Lord…”
      These documented by a number of Biblical Scholars who are fluent in old Hebrew and Koine Greek see Jesus in the OT.

      I have done this time consuming study and have used the Red Letter of both Testaments in this manner to its best advantage.
      Another great one to do is circle the words ” I AM ” in both the OT and NT . You WILL encounter the Living GOD in this way.
      The Bible will unfold to you as never before I promise everyone.

      ” Jesus in every book of the Bible ”
      https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Jesus+in+every+book+of+the+Bible&t=h_&ia=web

  • The gospels were probably written about 40-70 years after Jesus’ death by unknown authors which early church tradition attributed to Mark. Matthew Luke and John. They don’t contain the verbatim words of Jesus or his actual deeds, but rather his words as made up by these unknown authors, though he may have said some of them and his deeds include much mythology. Mark and John have no virgin birth story but Matthew and Luke do (written in the eighties of the 1st. century). Of course this is a legend. The Gospel of Thomas has Jesus saying to his disciples except you become male you cannot enter the kingdom of God. So apparently females had to become male (an impossibility in those days). So if we reject this saying of Jesus, then why should we think that quoting Jesus in the Gospels is accurate and that he actually said all these things attributed to him?

    Paul’s Jesus seems to be different from that of the synoptics. Paul’s emphasis is on a divine Jesus whereas the emphasis in the synoptics is on a human Jesus (though he seems to have some “divine” characteristics. By the time John’s Gospel was written, Jesus has become “divine”, Only 7 of Paul’s letters are considered genuine, the other 6 are considered by some to be forgeries. so why would you trust them?

    • pud

      “Believers” are required to check their critical faculties at the door of indoctrination…they have fits when confronted with actual facts as you presented…it destroys their wish thinking narrative

    • Sam Andrew

      Good points, the best guess we can get on what the real Jesus said I think is quotes that are consistent across synoptics and Thomas, though I suspect some of Thomas was also actually said and because it is so crazy the other gospel writers decided to avoid those passages. Paul and John seemed to come up with their own version of Jesus, it make one wonder how many other people were doing likewise whose writing just didn’t survive, either way it seems Jesus just became a mouth piece and object of worship for lots of different religious movements.

    • tlnd

      The Gospels are compilations created for specific audiences. They are meant to introduce individuals to a new way of living and provide information about events that led to the development of assemblies of followers/disciples of the Messiah and the people involved in this socio/political development. The Epistles are visions of the realities the Apostles encountered and their responses in the nascent Church. These teachings have helped many format a way of life that is concerned with the well being of many and disregard a life devoted to developing prestige and power. Francis of Assisi and Thomas Aquinas are two of the more famous but there are thousands of others. Through thoughtful research of the writings of the New Testament and reading historical writings like Aristotle’s Children, a Christian history by Paul Johnson or Rodney Stark, truth becomes something far greater than a generator of trust that we are receiving completely accurate transmission of facts when we read some Christian writing. We are actually living in the Truth Jesus has created with the help of his disciples over the centuries and the degree we recognize this can profoundly influence our perception of others, the world we live in, and how we react to events we encounter in our own life.

      • A growing consensus among NT scholars ( but by no means accepted by all) seems to support the view that Jesus was a peacemaker and that the disciple community was largely pacifist and non violently opposed the Roman Empire. Many centuries later Francis carried on a non violent tradition.

        Although I substantially agree with what you are saying, I am not so certain about “living in the Truth Jesus has created with the help of his disciples over the centuries…”, but I did appreciate your comments. I just see Jesus as a human being who may or may not have reflected the character of God. (Probably, God does not exist, but if Jesus does reflect his character, then God is non-violent, but this seems to be so contrary to the OT which pictures God as a warrior.)

        • tlnd

          The Truth is still being ‘written.’ It is a dynamic existential reality that has been imagined in benevolent humanistic ways (hospitals, convents for widows and children, community aid, technological advancements, etc) and perverted by the powerful to conquer and enslave, or simply disregard the humanity of others. How we imagine our own reality is directly influenced by the consequences of that history, otherwise, how does one explain how such a large mass of people in the West can learn through their actions that there are selfish or caring alternatives and imagine they have a viable choice? The lives we live are far more ‘spiritual’ than we realize and many paths, not just the religious, now lead us toward living a greater Truth.

          • Thanks for your thoughts.

          • NathansFather

            Probably may be more accurate to say prophesy is still being fulfilled.
            Be watchmen on the wall.
            One of the very best ever watchman site is Kjos Ministries, Crossroad.to
            http://www.crossroad.to

          • NathansFather

            Probably may be more accurate to say prophesy is still being fulfilled.
            Be watchmen on the wall.
            One of the very best ever watchman site is Kjos Ministries, Crossroad.to
            http://www.crossroad.to

      • NathansFather

        Beautiful Prose T. Thank you for your thoughtful and poetic posts.

        • tlnd

          Thank you for the compliment. I hope others sense what you did. The history of Jesus and the Kingdom of God are such an inspiration when you ‘see’ it.

          • NathansFather

            You are quite welcome brother or sister. I am looking forward to going to my True home 🙂 We willl meet there.

          • NathansFather

            Amen to that!
            So sad so many are missing this Love Gift of Grace by His Mercy. Not of our doing but came at a very high cost.

    • Alex Voon

      Although there are forgeries but the disciples of apostle John are able to identify which are the correct duplicated writings of the apostles of Jesus by cross-reference with the untainted version OT (because the Gentiles do not know Hebrew), i.e. the Torah and books of the prophets written in Hebrew which is the foundation of all Christian’s faith. This is how the scholars and Christians put the writings to the proof.

      • The NT was written in Greek. There is not much evidence that the apostle John wrote it. Most scholars believe that it was a product of the Johannine community of disciples. It clearly doesn’t describe much of the historical Jesus. The Jesus of John’s Gospel has been turned into a “divine” figure. If the author could read Hebrew, this no way validates turning Jesus from a human into “divine”, nor does it authenticate their writings.

        • Alex Voon

          There are many scholars who may be wrong. The accuracy of historical events is difficult to proof. You and I cannot proof them. But the OT can because those records are kept by Israel. Gentiles have no way to describe much of the historical Jesus because only the 12 disciples who are all Jews can. Heresies were rampant even during the 1st century and there were many widespread lies. The only way to put the writings to the proof is by the untainted version OT (because the Gentiles do not know Hebrew), i.e. the Torah and books of the prophets written in Hebrew which is the foundation of all Christian’s faith.
          We proof them in Isaiah – Chapter 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
          Zechariah – Chapter 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
          Isa 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
          Isa 48:12
          Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.
          Rev 22:13
          I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
          2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
          3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
          4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
          5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
          6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
          7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
          8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
          9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
          Isa 11:1
          And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
          10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
          Zec 6:12
          And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
          Due 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

          • Quoting the OT doesn’t prove the historicity of the events relating to Jesus. You need to look at historical scholarship and this requires examining the evidence. Fundamentalist bible quoting isn’t historical scholarship.

          • Alex Voon

            It is foolish to look at historical events of Israel written by Gentiles and atheist scholars. I wouldn’t trust India to tell France history, would you?
            Israel knows very well the history about Jesus.
            Christians knows very well about the bible.
            Christians don’t need Muslims to teach them the bible.

          • “Israel knows very well the historicity of events relating to Jesus.”

            If you mean by Israel first century Jewish historians, then none of them knew about the historical Jesus, except that he was crucified. They don’t support the view that Jesus was the Messiah of Israel. The Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah. Modern Jewish historians don’t support the view that Jesus was the Messiah.

            The only supporters of Jesus as the Messiah were clearly biased Christian Jews They mix mythology with some possibly historical facts..

          • Alex Voon

            “The only supporters of Jesus as the Messiah were clearly biased Christian Jews They mix mythology with some possibly historical facts.”
            You are Wrong.
            Gentile Christians in every ages are also supporters of Jesus as the Messiah.

            If you agree that Jesus was crucified, then you know it is an actual event in history. Later development of theology on matters pertaining to Jesus is not possible to prove because of widespread lies and forgeries. For us Christians are live witnesses of Jesus is the true God but for atheist the bible is a myth because God did not reveal Himself real to atheist and so called Christians (by name only) who doubt God. It is an on-going argument by scholars from both sides.

            The Torah and prophets books are the history books of Israel. But atheist Jews and the false Judaism many sects, they rejected Jesus, even the Torah and prophets books. Jews rebellion against God is evident in the bible which is the history books of Israel.

          • I should have said “the only Jewish supporters of Jesus as Messiah in the first century were clearly biased Christian Jews .” That is what I intended to say.

          • There is considerable doubt about many of the events recorded in the bible which Evangelicals interpret as historical. Some of the events may have had a historical basis but they are now so mixed with mythology that many of them are unlikely to have occurred as recorded. e.g. the first 11 chapters of genesis are largely mythology.

          • NathansFather

            Well done!
            You probably are wasting your breath however. These people do not have their eyes opened or ears unstoppered. This will take an act of God the Father, the transcendent GOD. We have sown His Seed as we are required to do in the Great Commission. It is time for all of us to dust off our sandals at this point. Why converse with the demonically inspired attackers? They either listen or they don’t obviously they aren’t listening. Their choice. They chose to go to hell at this point. May they awaken from their self-delusion we pray and turn to the Way, Truth, and Life.

          • If you are referring to modern historical scholarship, you would be sadly mistaken in your assessment. Historical scholarship is based on international standards applied by most of the universities of the world, and any scholar who specialises in Jewish history would have expertise in that area. Sure all scholars have presuppositions but these are not meant to get in the way of facts.

            Historical scholars do not usually comment (as scholars, in reputed peer reviewed journals) on things that are outside the realm of the normal course of events, like miracles. This does not make their historical evidence unreliable, if others can also look at the data and seek the most probable interpretation of events.

          • NathansFather

            Amen Alex!

            I can’t tell who the “This user is blocked” It could be 3. All who just can’t seem to go where they belong over on the Atheist Forum of Patheos. Their only mission in life seems to be persecution of children of GOD the followers of The Way. But then John 17 says not to be surprised. This just makes true believers more resolved to follow Jesus Iesous Y’shua’s commands by obeying.

            These people follow their father of liars, thieves, and murderers and may not even realize it. A person is either FOR Jesus or AGAINST Him. This is absolutism and not “fundamentalism” as they try to portray. It is a pitiful life of self loving to make themselves into little gods. So excessive-compulsive that makes them miserable and they think their misery should share their company. NOT. Leave us messengers of satan in the Name of Jesus Iesous Y’shua. We shun you and your evil ways.

          • Why do you bear false witness? You don’t believe the bible at this point, do you? We don’t follow any father of lies. We are not focus on self but compassionate humanists focus on loving others. We are not excessive-compulsive nor are we miserable. What a pack of lies you peddle.

  • NathansFather

    Of course the atheists won’t read these.

    Evidence for God

    Atheists have Proven God Does Not Exist. Right?
    http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/nogod.html

    Answers for Atheists and Agnostics
    http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/answers.html

    Expect as usual their abuse and name calling. Soooo lazy!