Did your ordination look like this?

I know that mine didn’t.

Uber-traditionalist Cardinal Raymond Burke ordained three new deacons for the Institute of Christ the King at their seminary near Florence on January 30th.

You can see more snapshots and learn more at the New Liturgical Movement website.  A cappa magna was there, too!

Meantime, want to sample something 180 degrees from the above?  To get an idea of just how wide-ranging our Catholic liturgy can be, check out this report from CNS, with an audio dispatch from Barb Fraze, sharing some of the jubilant bongo-banging mass of Kenya.

Further proof, if any were needed, that it’s a big church.


  1. God bless the new deacons and Cardinal Burke too.

  2. I don’t know if “Uber-traditionalist” is fair. I think, “Traditionally minded” or “Raymond Cardinal Burke, who functions from a hermeneutic of continuity…” is more precise. He’s not a sedevacantist.

  3. An ordination is always beautiful, kind of like wedding days in a thunderstorm are still lovely.

    BUT I must say my first thought, traditional or not, is that looked aesthetically ugly.

    No one looks to me for fashion or liturgical advice, though.

  4. Elizabeth Scalia says:

    I completely “get” that the cappa magna and all of these trappings are meant to both represent the Triumphant Kingship of Christ and bring beauty to our worship. But I frankly don’t NEED it in my worship. At some point, the external trappings become distracting and take away the central focus of the liturgy, which should be Christ Present and our relationship with him. On the other hand, while I also like and “get” the beautiful simplicity of the Kenyan worship, it’s not my ideal, either.

    I guess my ideal is something that is pious, but not unto freakishness, joyful without becoming irreverent.

    I pretty much like my parish. We could do with a little more chant, or a tiny bit of Latin, but mostly is a nice, reverent and simple worship.

  5. Liturgy is not based on what we like.

  6. “Did your ordination look like this?”

    I wish!

  7. romancrusader says:

    For you to call to Cardinal Burke a Traditionalist is insulting. You should know better than that. He’s a good man who stood up to those pro-abortion politicians when no one else did. How dare you.

  8. romancrusader says:

    I meant to say Raymond Cardinal Burke stood up to those pro-abortion politicians when very few bishops did. Sorry about that.

  9. No my husband’s ordinations was nothing like that. I wish that the head of worship had stuck to “do the red say the black” and not added inventions. Wives were way to involved in the rite for example.

    There does need to be a reform of the liturgy, but I have no desire for going backwards. I agree with IC the vestments pictured above are ugly. Just not my cupa.

  10. I have no objection whatsoever to the Church being big enough for those who like the Extraordinary Form; it’s not my cup of tea, but God bless those for whom it means a great deal.

    The issue I have is that there is a tendency in many who like the EF to be overly critical of the Ordinary Form; yet, when celebrated properly, the OF can be very uplifting. When celebrated mechanically, the EF can be…well, mechanical. There is, from my reading of various blogs, a rather distainful approach – an aloofness – by some (I repeat ‘some’) of the devotees of the EF towards those who prefer the OF; this is quite uncharitable and unseemly.

    I notice that, so far, no one has commented on the music from the beginning of the Mass in Kenya; for me, the joy was palpable and drew me in immediately. Many years ago, I was fortunate enough to be present at a Mass in Malawi; the humility and devotion of the people was truly inspiring, but one had to be comfortable with dancing, swaying, armwaving, standing (only the elders had chairs) – and a service that lasted almost 2 hours.

    BTW, at the risk of raising the ire of the more ‘traditionally’ minded: I just had to laugh when I saw the 2nd photograph of Cardinal Burke; this is hardly elegant vestiture.

  11. It’s incredibly dangerous to dismiss everything prior to Vatican II. Everyone knows that the 1962 Missal of Bl. John XXIII needed revision. Sadly we got fabricated liturgy. We can probably agree that the purpose of the Cappa Magna is lost on us today, perhaps it’s good that they’ve been pretty well done away with. I don’t know. What I do know is that the sacraments should be offered under both forms. I’d love to hear the deacon at my home parish sing the Gospel in Latin… Not sure he’s much of a singer though.

  12. Two things…

    “Liturgy is not based on what we like.”
    I think it is.

    “For you to call Cardinal Burke a traditionalist is insulting.”
    Since when is it insulting to be a traditionalist?

  13. I meant to say, Since when is it an insult to be called a traditionalist?

    In the second photo Burke looks very unhappy. He also looks like he has a giant lemon on his head. The vestments aren’t my cup of tea either.

  14. I, too, am glad the Church is big enough for the extraordinary form. In many ways it serves as a corrective for the ordinary form. Nonetheless, I am with those who can also look at these pictures and see why the post-conciliar reforms were needed and made (i.e., the capp magna). Let’s not forget that, as Catholics, we eschew false dilemmas, which very often makes us a both/and kind of people.

  15. La Crosse, Wisconsin is my home diocese and I sure miss (Bishop) Cardinal Burke. I continue to follow him as he leaves his mark on the Church. So proud to call him “mine”…. (but I gladly share him with the rest of you! LOL)

  16. If the liturgy were based on personal taste, we would have one for each person. Personal taste or personal feeling is not the canon for liturgical performance.

    As for the extraordinary form, it is not “tolerated”, because it simply IS a form of the Latin Rite celebrated from hundreds of years before the currently ordinary form. According to Benedict XVI the extraordinary form is as valid as the new form, part of the same Latin rite. If you feel magnanimosity because you “tolerate” the extraordinary form, don’t, because it is the Mass as much as the new form and will be a part of the Latin Rite forever.

    Liking and feeling have nothing to do with it.

  17. I have yet to see anyone make the case in this thread that liturgy is a personal taste, at least not in the open-ended sense to which you make reference. Presently, at least in places where the extraordinary form is celebrated, it is something of a personal taste. For example, I could go to two parishes and participate in the extraordinary form, but I choose not to. Why? Because I very much like the ordinary form, especially where it is celebrated well. The Cathedral at which I am privileged to serve (The Cathedral of the Madeleine in Salt Lake City) celebrates the ordinary form very much in the way I believe the fathers of VII envisioned. So, liking and feeling do have something to do with whether one prefers one form over the other. Otherwise, we would merely have the Vulcan Rite. I have yet to read anyone disputing either the validity or the licitness of the ordinations administered by Cardinal Burke- they are both valid and licit. I would surmise that this liturgy was beautifully celebrated.

    There were reasons why the liturgy needed to be reformed. Primarily because it was increasingly incomprehensible for most Catholics and had become very juridical and encrusted with many accretions.To me, vestments, like the cappa magna, are representative of all that. It’s funny that prior to Trent, after which the Roman Rite became universalized, the Rite became less adaptible than it was before. The reforms enacted after the Council did not happen exclusively during the Council, but had been brewing for some 70-80 years.

  18. “There’s no accounting for taste.”

    Where can I get a pair of green gloves like that to wear on March 17?

  19. Robert Salazar says:

    I find the Deacon’s comments quite distasteful. Since when is adherence to Catholic Orthodoxy “uber traditionalist.”

    I find the OF, while valid and licit, to be not what the Church Fathers had in mind when they called for the reform of the Liturgy.
    But lets take a look at the fruits of that reform.
    1. The Tabernacle where the Most Blessed Sacrament reposes is cast to the side or placed in another room.
    2. Applause for the musicians and choir
    3. Altar servers who do nothing.
    4. Female servers
    5. The Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion acting as if the job is Ordinary.
    6. Protestant music
    7. Baptismal fonts in the front.

    All this has led to the notion that the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is for the people. It is not! It is for God and God alone.

    Thank Pope Benedict XVI for Summorum Pontificum!

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