A parishioner took this and sent it my way: receiving a blessing from retired Brooklyn Bishop Thomas Daily before proclaiming the gospel at our parish’s Founders Day Mass last Sunday, a kickoff to the celebration of our parish centennial.
I am troubled by the type of stole you are wearing. What happened to the traditional Deacon stole?
I’m wearing a dalmatic. White, with a Marian theme, because our parish is dedicated to the Blessed Mother.
Just to amplify Deacon Greg’s response a bit —
The blue material on the dalmatic is not a stole, it is decoration.
The deacon’s stole is worn under the dalmatic, when the deacon wears a dalmatic.
The dalmatic is the outer vestment of a deacon, corresponding to the priest’s chasuble.
Thank you for this clarification.
My father was an altar boy to then Father Dailey in Wollaston Massachusetts when he was growing up. Wish we could see his face there.
Looks like the alb needs some washing. The white of the dalmatic really brings out the cruddy yellow color.
The alb is new. Its off white.
Nice photo! I like the dalmatic with the blue trim, too.
Thanks for posting this because the comments that follow helped me figure something out about our own Deacon. He wears what I thought was very priestly looking vestments. Reading the comment about the dalmatic – and a trusty google search later I now understand that he’s wearing a sleeved dalmatic and not a chausable.
Learned something new today. Always a good thing 😉
What is the policy for photography during Mass these days? Just curious. We are always told that no photography or videography is allowed during Mass at Baptisms and Confirmations as it violates the sanctity of the Mass.
That may be a local policy.
The common sense rule that we follow is that nothing distracts from the ceremony while it is in progress. That generally prohibits “FLASH” photography and any situation where the action of the photographer distracts the folks in the pew. With these new cameras that do not need “FLASH” — and with photographers who abide by the rules — you can get some really neat photos.
Several of Dcn Greg’s posts are on new diaconal ordinations. The photos, for instance, provided to Dcn Greg from the recent diaconal ordination in Toledo were provided by the photographer working for their diocesan newspaper. She is very good, is very discreet, and has some amazing technical equipment.
I will tell our pastor that, apparently he believes no church in the country allows photography for Weddings, Baptisms, etc. I live in a strange parish.
The pastor even dispatched a priest to determine if a local woman who just lost her husband had a proper annulment prior to remarriage or no Catholic funeral service would be allowed. The woman’s first husband had died and she remarried, there was no divorce. She was so outraged that she left the parish. I can provided multiple examples of this.
–In our weddings, the rule is real simple. No “FLASH” photography during the ceremony itself. You can use “FLASH” during the procession and the recession. The rest of the ceremony must follow that “non-distraction” rule. Usually I meet with the couple’s photographer before the ceremony and explain all of this. In fact, during the ceremony itself, many of those photographers — be they “still” or video — use the choir loft to catch the couple reciting their vows or lighting their “Unity Candle.” Our choir loft also has an audio output box where the video photographers can connect their sound cords as well and thus get the sound directly from the PA system.
–There are even less rules about photography at Baptisms. Now, we do not do Baptisms during Mass — they are ALWAYS free-standing ceremonies — and most of the time the parish deacons are the presiders. All five of us (two active and three “emeritus”) are married, have children and grandchildren of our own and we know how important photography is at a Baptism. I even tell family photographers where they can sit to get the best “line-of-sight” and I make sure I arrange everyone around the Baptistry so that the camera critters can see everyone clearly.
“The pastor even dispatched a priest to determine if a local woman who just lost her husband had a proper annulment prior to remarriage or no Catholic funeral service would be allowed.”
You may want to check Canon Law on that one. Here, however, is what I understand: (1) Any Roman Catholic, be they the worst sinner, has a right to a Catholic Funeral. (2) The deceased does NOT have to officially be a member of the Roman Catholic parish/chapel where the funeral is held — providing the pastor approves. (3) The religious beliefs of the surviving family does not have a negative impact on any of this. The rest of the family (spouse/children/grandchildren) do not have to be Catholic in order for a Catholic ceremony to be held. (4) A funeral Mass is not a requirement nor is having the ceremony in a church/chapel.
Two examples come to mind: I was the assisting deacon/homilist at the funeral of a retired police officer I knew. It was a funeral mass in the Catholic Church whose territorial borders included this man’s home — even though he was not an official member. Neither his wife, nor his family nor any of their families were Catholic. All that this meant was that less than 50% of the folks in attendance received Holy Communion. (2) Then there was the very small funeral of a guy who was a baptized Roman Catholic — again none of his family were. I was asked to do a Roman Catholic Funeral Service outside of Mass but actually at our church (rather than a funeral home/funeral chapel). No problem at all.
That funeral story is outrageous. According to Canon Law:
Can. 1184 §1. Unless they gave some signs of repentance before death, the following must be deprived of ecclesiastical funerals:1/ notorious apostates, heretics, and schismatics;2/ those who chose the cremation of their bodies for reasons contrary to Christian faith;3/ other manifest sinners who cannot be granted ecclesiastical funerals without public scandal of the faithful.
Can. 1184 §1. Unless they gave some signs of repentance before death, the following must be deprived of ecclesiastical funerals:
1/ notorious apostates, heretics, and schismatics;
2/ those who chose the cremation of their bodies for reasons contrary to Christian faith;
3/ other manifest sinners who cannot be granted ecclesiastical funerals without public scandal of the faithful.
I only know of one case in Brooklyn where a Catholic funeral was denied: John Gotti. While dying in prison, he refused to see a priest. The family held a private funeral and separate memorial Mass to pray for his soul afterward.
Alas Deacon Greg, I can provide many other stories like this.
Example: A young girl from my high school lost her father to cancer, however she made into college in NJ. While a junior in college, she got pregnant out of wedlock. She stayed in school and had the baby. Our local NJ pastor refused to perform a Baptism on the baby even after the family requested it. The girl and the father of the baby wanted to get married after graduation, and again the pastor refused to marry them in our church. Despite her attending parochial school and her family being multi-generational members of the parish.
She eventually had the baby baptized in the Church in the next town over and was married there as well.
She died at the age of 32 of breast cancer leaving two boys. The same pastor refused to allow her funeral service in our parish. No one could stand up to him, he was the law.
To this day, many of us wonder why he was so hard nosed about providing Sacraments.
My friend was married by the same pastor and during the Homily, he stated that this marriage would probably end in divorce statistically which drew a gasp from the crowd.
I served under this pastor for 8 years as an altar boy and he would hit the sacramental wine before Mass. One of the other priests was defrocked for child molestation — we were kept away from him as altar boys but I did not understand why at the time.
As I have said, I have a knack for belonging to uninspiring parishes. It has shaped my view on Catholicism.
I am not there for the priest, I am there for God. As far as I am concerned by the examples of priests in my life, I feel many of stand between their flock and the Divine.
George sorry to hear that. We have a similar pastor who is young and views himself as the lone savior of the Church in America. My understanding is that it is basically malpractice to refuse baptism to a child, and ours did the same because the parents were not married. Am i wrong on this?
You’re not wrong. Whatever sins the parents may have committed are not the fault of the child. If the parents sincerely want to raise their child Catholic, there is no good reason to refuse baptism — which amounts to the refusal by one man to confer sacramental grace. That’s outrageous.
do you know who manufactured the dalmatic and the bishops vestments
I sense it may be from the Holy Rood Guild?
as a follow up http://youtu.be/w_dmCy6L3Dw
I just realized that Bishop Daily who you are speaking about was supreme chaplain of the Knights of Columbus from 1987-2005.
I don’t know who made the chasuble (it’s part of our parish’s stock) but I do know that the dalmatic was a gift from my wife for my ordination. (I wore it for my Mass of Thanksgiving. :-)). It was made by Theological Threads.
The off-white alb, though, was made by Holy Rood.
Ok thanks that is what i thought. He gives orthodoxy a bad name, zero pastoral sensitivity. How could you refuse a baby a baptism. Boggles the mind. Reminds me of the soup nazi in Seinfeld; ‘you not perfect? No soup for you!’
Congrats to your parish on it’s centennial Dcn Greg. Ad multos annos It is clear you serve one of those parishes where both clergy and laity are blessed and alive with the Spirit.
And for the record while everyone in the photo looks splendid – the whole gang ‘coulda wore burlap bags and I am sure you ‘at work’ would still have done a masterful job proclaiming the Word and speaking about the meaning of our Lord’s message in your homily.
You’re very kind, Joe. Thanks. The homily was preached by a visiting priest, kicking off a four-day parish mission — which, I have to say, was a fabulous success. We started with maybe 250 people on Monday night. By Thursday’s conclusion, we must have had 700. It just built. I guess word spread. But it was a great, grace-filled way to kick off the centennial celebration.
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