Joe D’Hippolito…

who has called for the nuclear annihilation of five major cities in the mideast, as well as offering this sober response to an act of terror a few years ago:

“If I were the governor of New Jersey (where Johnson lived), and I heard about the tape that announced the threat to Johnson’s life, I would mobilize the National Guard around a mosque in Newark or Jersey City, roust the Muslims in that city out of their homes and businesses, transport them to the mosque — and say that if Johnson is beheaded, the mosque will be destroyed by tank and mortar fire, and everyone inside will be killed. That is the only language these Muslim bastards understand.

If I were a member of the Johnson family and I heard about the threatening tape, I would abduct the local imam and his family, and threatened to do to them what the terrorists threatened to do to Johnson. Then I would do it.

Yes, I would go to jail, probably even be executed. I don’t care. It would be worth it.”

is dilating on my alleged grave enmity to the state of Israel and my love of the Iranian regime for the folks at Front Page.

In point of fact, I affirm Israel’s existence and think Jews, like Palestinians, deserve a homeland. I’m big on people having a home. I merely reject the propositions that a) Israel is immaculately conceived and preserved from all sin both original and actual; b) it’s our job to defend Israel (or Germany, Japan, Korea, and the scores of other countries our Empire extends to); and c) we need to pound the drums for war with Iran.

In short, Joe, in addition to advocating for cold-blooded mass murder, is also a bald-faced liar.

Now the folks over at Pewsitter have decided, in their folly, to hitch their wagon to Joe D’Hippolito–Joe D’Hippolito!–and repeat the lie that I am “pro-mullah” urging their readers to go join the 15 minute hate at Front Page and listen to the sage of Fullerton. In doing so, they are urging their readers to take their cues from a guy who hates the Catholic Church with the white hot passion of a thousand suns, who declares the Church to be accursed by God, who prays for the damnation of John Paul II (“Poop John Baal” as Joe cleverly called him), and whose name is *legend* in the comboxes of St. Blog’s for a torrent of unending invective against the Catholic Faith.

But hey! He hates me so that’s good enough for Pewsitter.

Good call guys! The prophet D’Hippolito is a rock solid choice for sound Catholic spiritual guidance.

Upper-Update:  My mistake.  I thought Pewsitter had the integrity to take the link down. I was wrong. Pewsitter has chosen to keep the link (highlighted even, for maximum reputation damage).  Here’s their alleged editorial review process:

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I have now written them twice, pointing them to this blog entry, pointing to the fact that Joe D’Hippolito is, in fact, a dedicated enemy of the Catholic faith who emphatically questions, disputes and contradicts the teachings of the Church, pointing out that I am not “pro-mullah” but merely not pro-war (and especially not pro pre-emptive war), offering actual information about my real beliefs (which are based on the Church’s Just war teaching–which Joe D’Hippolito repudiates with scorn, by the way), affirming that I think them better than this, and requesting that they take down their libellous headline.

Apparently, however, libel is Pewsitter policy when they think they have to destroy somebody they dislike.  Ultimately, this goes back to my critiques of Fr. Corapi and, again, of Michael Voris (two of their folk heros), as well, of course, as my rejection of the attempt to sell neocon warmongering as realio-trulio prolife Catholicism (in short, I blaspheme the sacred name of Santorum by not buying his Mr. Catholic act when he votes for human cloning, supports Specter, lobbies for pre-emptive war, cheers for murder as “wonderful” and rah rahs for torture). 

Accordingly, Pewsitter has marked me as an enemy of, well, not the Faith (because I’m obviously not) but of their support for a particular blend of folk hero worship, American military adventurism, police state tactics, talk radio shibboleths, and highly selective cafeteria Catholicism, which they define as Real Catholic[TM] faith.  And  so, true to the emerging soteriology of the Thing that Used to be Conservative Catholicism, they are acting as though opposition to abortion taketh away the sins of the world (as well as though “the ends justify the means”) and libeling me on the theory that wearing the Precious Feet pin makes libel okay. The irony, of course, is that D’Hippolito doesn’t even care much about the prolife movement and has written on various occasions (always in comboxes, of course, since he has no blog) to heap scorn on it as a sort of fig leaf of respectability for the hated bishops.

Sad to watch Pewsitter sell its birthright for a pot of message. I hope they take this act of libel off their site and issue a retraction and apology. It would be very Lenten of them, as well as the right thing to do.  Meanwhile, for my part, I forgive them–and Joe–and ask that God would bless all of them through Christ our Lord.

  • Frank Weathers

    You can’t win for losing, eh Mark? :D

    Here’s an idea that might appease your detractors, with a healthy dose of “I mean the current President when I play this song,” *even though it fit the former one too*

    Cheers!

  • Frank Weathers
  • Michael

    Ezra Pound? Wasn’t he committed to a mental institution after the war?

  • Dan C

    I suspect Pewsitter was paid money to promote this, as part of their PR services. For something posted by Front Page Mag yesterday, it climbed to the top of a google search of Hippolito quite quickly.

    Which speaks even more lowly of Pewsitter.

    • Mark Shea

      I doubt it. Pewsitter has decided I am ritually unclean and periodically dredges up somebody attacking me about something. I sent them the link to this piece, outlining some of the teensy theological problems one enmeshes oneself in by recommending Joe D’Hippolito as a guide to Catholic thought, as well as correcting the lie that I am “pro-mullah”. We’ll see if they cowboy up and admit their error or leave it up out of spite.

  • Dan C

    Who is Hippolito?

    • Mark Shea

      A man who needs your prayers.

  • freddy

    Dear God have mercy! Mr. D’Hipplolito is a tortured soul in need of many prayers. Mark, I’m so sorry to see you a victim of his confused attack, but if anything it shows that you’re on the side of Christ and His Church. God bless you.

    • ds

      pshaw. Mark Shea is clearly a secret muslim.

  • Thomas L. McDonald

    Either you’re with Joe, or you’re with the terrorists. There’s a charming Thomistic binary simplicity to it all; or there would be, if Thomas had been a moron.

  • Tom

    Mark, thank you for being courageous and holding firm when it comes to the Faith and Iran. True Christian faith is hard. It means that you don’t first strike your enemy because they might strike you. It means that you don’t demonize those with different views because they might demonize you. Way too many Christians grasp onto snippets in Paul or things like the Just War doctrine and forget that we are supposed to be following Christ. Where is your faith you warmongering pack of weasels? And where and with whom do you place it? In your selves? The might of the US military? of our Commander in Chief? Or rather do we have faith in GOD?

    How can we claim to be faithful to GOD, if every time someone else on the planet decides to arm themselves as we have — we decide to eschew it in favor of self gratifying and faithless violence and warfare? (as Hippolito, the FrontPage and Pewsitter seem to argue) If we are truly with God, who can be against us?

    Keep up the good work, Mark.

    • Mark Shea

      Thank you Tom. I appreciate it. God bless you!

  • http://www.churchyear.net David Bennett

    Man, it is hard to read that article and the comments that have followed.

    I will say that outside of this blog and a few others, I rarely even step into the Catholic Blogsophere any more. I am more edified and informed by reading cracked.com. I am exaggerating, but only a little.

    • http://creativefidelity.wordpress.com Dan F.

      I think it’s a significant commentary on our culture that humor blogs like cracked and comedy shows like the Daily Show and the Colbert Report are more likely to inform us and challenge the status quo as well as the talking points of our leaders than our news media.

      • http://www.churchyear.net David Bennett

        Dan,

        I hadn’t thought about it much, but you have some great insight here. I don’t know your view of Ron Paul, but the fairest hearing he gets is often from Colbert, and Jon Stewart, and the best, most balanced interview I heard with him was given by Jay Leno. Ironically, the media ends up being jokes, while the comedy shows/sites give us serious content.

  • Alfredo Escalona

    Hmmmm…

    So let’s see.
    Some days you are a shill for that commie Obama.
    Other days your are the second coming of Ezra Pound.

    Ah! I’ve got it now. You must be the schizophrenic love child of
    Joe Stalin and Axis Sally, from that wild and wonderful weekend
    in Berlin in ’45, slouching its way towards Bethlehem.

    Yeesh.

    • http://www.frenchcookingmama.wordpress.com frenchcookingmama

      Is this supposed to be said with tongue firmly planted in cheek?

      • Mark Shea

        Yep.

    • Mark Shea

      Heh! Don’t forget that I’m also an intolerant right winger who defends fourteen year old girls from gay Horst Wessels instead of doing my duty and celebrating gayness as the height of civilization. My evil knows no bounds.

  • Sean O

    Mark

    Keep being an oasis of sanity & reason.
    Joseph D’H and his ilk are blind & self righteous.
    “Forgive them, for they know not what they do.”

  • Michaelus

    It is always someone else doing the fighting though isn’t it? If this guy wants to fight the jihad boys there are plenty of places he can do it.

  • http://www.churchyear.net David Bennett

    You are right Michaelis. All the hawks need to sign up immediately to fight. They can go over and do their part right now.

    In fact, they could actually re-invade Iraq, since many of them liked it so much, and then they can invade Syria and Iran.

    Now that would be comedic…a bunch of out-of-shape chickenhawk politicians and bloggers wandering around the Middle East getting the crap kicked out of them. Oh wait…they would never do it…because they put the “chicken” in chicken hawk lol.

    • Michaelus

      Right – I cannot see how they miss the hilarity of these pronouncements. But this is endemic – a certain group always wants to send the SEALs , drones or nukes…

      Let us have the pleasures of conquerors
      without the pains of soldiers: let us sit on sofas and be a hardy race – GKC

  • Eli

    With a few exceptions the farther along you go the comment thread the more sane it gets there.

    • ds

      My favorite comment from the front page mag article (and I honestly think Mark will find it amusing, too):

      I read a little of Shea’s work and from what I’ve seen,he’s a bit of a pinhead.

      • Mark Shea

        My friend Zippy Catholic will be nonplussed. Personally, I like the diagnosis that I am a “shill for Obama”. In the words of Malibu Barbie: thinking is hard!

  • Chris

    Remarkable. I didn’t realize God was an American Elitest with a fetish for war.

    • Chris M

      What’s amazing is how God’s opinions seem to morph depending on who’s speaking for him! Incredible! Apparently God thinks EXACTLY like ME!! ;)

      • Chris

        Heh –

        As Thomas Aquinas pointed out, we can know more about God by deciding what He’s NOT, rather than what He IS.

  • Hungry d’Hippopotamus

    I am calling for nuclear annihilation of five cities in the midwest: Appleton, Rock Island, Des Moines, Racine, and Grand Marais (MI or MN, take your pick) because I got an undercooked walleye sandwich at Culver’s one time. That is the only language these bastards understand.

    • Chris

      What – you’re gonna leave out the Wisconsin Dells?

      Snob.

  • Joannie

    I am glad to see that I am not the only one out there that has a problem with the Pewsitter web site. Just a few months ago, the lead article was that the Holy Father’s health was rapidly declining. They picked up this erroneous article straight from the AP as also did New Oxford Review, and even New Advent. IF IT COMES FROM A SECULAR NEWS SOURCE TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT!. Also I am tired of this phoney neo-con chickenhawk talk coming from certain factions. One of them on a popular video site is saying that Rick Santorum is “more conservative” than Mitt Romney. HUH? We do all as Catholics need to follow the teaching on Subsidiarity that is so important, and to follow ALL teaching including the Church’s social teaching. It can’t be ignored and I am tired of being American more important than being a Catholic.

  • antigon

    A hit piece from the nutballs at Frontpage! Congratulations, Mr. Shea, tho it was cruel of them to do this during Lent, when you should be given penance, not a high honor like this!

  • thomas tucker

    The crazy thing about Crazy Joe (among many things) is that he is obsessed with Catholic blogs and appears as a commentor on them ad nasueam, even though he claims that Catholicism is evil. What is it with this guy? Is he like a Nazi SS guard who is obsessed with torturing Jews but secretly knows that his own grandmother was Jewish?

  • Scott W.

    Another name for Schindler’s Ignore List.

  • Dave Pawlak

    One thing I can say to Mr. D’Hippolito’s credit: his sports articles are very good.

  • Marthe Lépine

    Let me add my 2 cents: I have read, off and on, from a number of “Catholic” blogs and often been turned off by their propaganda for war and capitalism, among others. On the other hand, ever since I have discovered Mark’s (ironically enough from a discussion about Jollyness), I have turned to it every day that I have been using my computer from home, just after checking my e-mails in case somebody sent me some work, and the cbc.ca Web site for news (it’s almost become a ritual…) And I go back to Mark’s blog a few times during the day. Why: I like the way he writes in an easy-to-understand style; and I like his mostly balanced comments that really take the Church teaching into account instead of playing on words to justify whatever ideology is supposed to be promoted. To explain this, take his stand about torture: to him, torture is evil, and that’s it. Other bloggers have been trying things such as: well, the Church did not clearly define what torture was, so it is left to our “prudential judgement” to decide if waterboarding is really torture… And other tortured arguments to justify things that the Church disagrees with but that today’s pseudo-conservative really want to promote…
    So, thank you Mark for showing a sound judgement.
    Two other things that I really like: Mark is not afraid to link his readers to other blogs that he considers as doing good work; and I am impressed by his willingness to post prayer requests, even when he has just said that he would too busy to do much posting for a while, usually because of looming deadlines (and believe me, as a free-lance translator, I know what looming deadlines mean!)

  • Clare Krishan

    Pewsitter did NOT remove the link, (sorry, I know charity and all that – but since its not true, let’s not be fakes about charity, we can forgive ‘em a lapse, when they lapse, for now just forgive ‘em for persisting in offense instead)
    Its no longer redlined at top, but half way down the page, redacted to read:
    “Mark Shea flagged for pro-mullah propaganda. … more “
    which still takes you to Joe’s article at Frontpage mag

    Its in the third rightmost column close to this entry: “Why can’t Rick Santorum win over Catholics, too much religion in the public square?. … more (funny that, but Prof. Mary Ann Glendon, former US Ambassador to the Vatican is pretty much a very high profile Catholic in the public square who endorsed, wait for it, not her Catholic brother in faith Santorum, nor her Catholic brother in faith Gingrich, but her Mormon fellow New-Englander Mitt Romney (along with four other high profile Catholics in the public square who used their prudential judgment and considerable diplomatic nous to decline endorsing either of their Catholic brethren :
    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/five-former-vatican-ambassadors-endorse-romney/
    perhaps because they’re not the most prudent choice for the highest office of the land? They’re professional diplomats, and that’s a pretty big public snub, so its not a sin obviously to be measured in one’s use of religious rhetoric in the public square…)

    Pewsitter’s tribal mind can’t quite get his American head around that one obviously…

    • Mark Shea

      My mistake. Oh well.

  • Clare Krishan

    oops my “they’re”s got muddled there – perhaps because they’re (ie Catholic brethren) not the most prudent choice for the highest office of the land? They’re (ie Prof. Glendon and co.) professional diplomats, and that’s a pretty big public snub, so its not a sin obviously to be measured in one’s use of religious rhetoric in the public square

  • pammie

    Amazing how Mercan RCs have FINALLY recognised the biases of Corporate Media toward most of their own core beliefs , values, morals, candidates etc and yet they still take for Gospel Corporate Media’s reporting on the ME , Israel , Iran . Not to mention failing to recognise that the very same CM “information” FORMED their opinions on the subject in the first place. Human beings are strange creatures are they not? And so easily manipulated.

  • The Jerk

    So, for Pewsitter it’s the enemy of my enemy is Mark Shea?

  • The Jerk

    No, I got it: For Pewsitter The Mark Shea of my enemy is my …

    um

    The friend of Mark Shea is my ene …

    No

    Mark Shea is a jerk and we don’t like him.

  • Geri Sypolt

    This article gets a thumbs way up from me.

  • http://www.fiql.com/members/DustinHSla efile taxes

    Wait Georgia state sales tax is 4% and the counties have a 3% (most of them) and the city of Atlanta has a 1% so the only place Georgia’s sales tax would be 8% is in the City of Atlanta (State+county+city). If they are making it 8% for online how are they handling it, is the state getting all of it, or do they have a system to identify which counties the orders originated from and then give them the other 4%. Please tell me the City of Atlanta isn’t now getting 1% of all internet sells in the state of GA. Do the sites have to provide a county by county list of sales when they pay the tax? For most of the state an 8% tax rate is 1% higher than local stores. Since before this GA tax code already required that if you didn’t pay taxes on a catalog or online purchase you should file and pay it at the end of the year, this is effectively a 1% tax increase in addition of fixing the loop hole of self reporting (which I’m sure we all did )

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