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  • Marthe Lépine

    Thank you for that post. I copied a few quotes into my folder of “Documentation”, particularly those you offered from Belloc, because I find them as useful “ammunition” to reply to some friends who doubt the Church because of the sins of some of its members and leaders, whenever such sins make headlines… – while forgetting that we are all sinners but are not all publicly exposed!

  • Marthe Lépine

    Oh! And I think this is a real gem: “It’s like sizing up the whole apostolic band simply by the behavior of Judas. Short-sighted.”

  • Charlotte

    I wonder what the writer’s disparagement of Holy Week in Seville was all about. Did he experience something in particular that deserved to be called corrupt, or did he just have a negative gut reaction to something culturally foreign?

  • Blog Goliard

    A fine post. I always appreciate it when people manage to tackle this question without resorting to the No True Scotsman fallacy.

  • http://www.saskapriest.com Fr. Darryl

    Great article! Though for some reason I now have REM Shiny Happy People in my head. Oi. :-)

    Also, not sure if you’ve seen this, but Meg Hunter-Kilmer has written a great post that goes nicely with yours. She reflects on the “comic relief” given by the apostles, who were, as you quoted Chesterton, “men.”

  • http://chapinracional.blogspot.com/ Alejandro

    Even in the Bible it is clear that just because God’s followers are corrupt and sinful, doesn’t make His word any less true. However, I do have say considering the modern theology of the church: a corrupt Bishop of Rome that invokes infabillity is something to be reckoned with.

    • Ted Seeber

      Yes, he is, which is why Vatican I created the doctrine of infallibility, to define when the Pope is fallible (which is actually most of the time).

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHRTgEhm_Ds Mel Noda

    This is a great read