More Poisonous Fruit from the Cult of Voris

So the most excellent Simcha Fisher, being a healthy human being, notes her distaste with Michael Voris offering a Caribbean Lenten Luxury Cruise for a thousand bucks a head (all while trying to portray the whole thing as some valiant act of spiritual warfare with Enemies of His Pure Faith while, as is his custom, really only fanning  into flame the arrogant pride of his Cult of Personality).  But, because she is a fundamentally wise, good and decent person, she feels disappointed with herself for focusing on Mr. Scourge-of Professional-Catholics-Who-Charges-Fat-Premiums-and-Accuses-Good-Bishops-of-Being-Gay-and-Good-Catholics-of-Being-Heretics-While-Mainstreaming-Nutty-Anti-Semite‘s hypocrisy and turns her perfectly understandable eyeroll at the Cult of Voris to something good by recommending a bunch of charities and works of mercy you could send a thousand bucks to instead.

Things are going swimmingly until the Inquisitors at Pewsitter get wind of it and send the Voris Cult off like flying monkeys to hijack the entire thread with encomiums of adoration of their favorite demagogue and the typical accusations of Impurity against a faithful Catholic that are the Cult of Voris’ bread and butter–and which he constantly encourages. Nothing else matters to them–and certainly not the poor–other than the Dear Leader who tells them what their itching ears want to hear about their immense superiority to all us unwashed CINOs.

The whole thing is a cult and a toxic one. It peddles worship of Voris as “orthodoxy”, sends out flying monkeys to halt works of mercy so that false accusations can be leveled against a good woman and a demagogue can be exalted at the expense of the poor. It battles, not real evils, but people like Abp. Vigneron, Bp. Mulvey, the Knights of Columbus, SOLT, EWTN, the Register, CNA, and It’s poison. And I sincerely hope I will be honored by inclusion on the Cult of Voris’ hit list right behind Simcha. Come and get me, you weenies.

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  • Charity

    Mark, first I should admit that I haven’t read a single remark in the combox … too long, and I suspect, too blood-pressure-raising for me today. But I wanted to tell you THANK YOU for jumping to Simcha’s defense. She is brilliant and a credit to the NCR. (And you are, too).

  • JohnK

    I don’t find these kinds of posts helpful in any way. You have better things to do than put this kind of trash in the heads of your readers (most of whom would never know or care about this issue if you weren’t trumpeting it).

    • Mark Shea

      So you prefer to simply passively stand by while a good woman gets beaten up?

  • Dan Ullmann

    Mark, being new to your blog and seeing and hearing Michael Voris aplenty, can you direct me or explain to me what your isssues are with him and his organization? No disrespect intended, but it seems that jeolousy has reared its ugly head? Please help. God Bless!

    • Mark Shea

      No. Not jealousy. Really, I already made plain what the problem is: he is a reckless demagogue who teaches his followers to attack good people like Simcha Fisher:

      One of the more tedious tropes his Cult has adopted is to adopt his character assassination of Catholic media people as “Profe$$ional Catholic$” who are, simultaneously “only in it for the money” and also, mirabile dictu, “jealous” of his financial success. His cult never detects any contradiction in these dumb charges. I don’t care about his success. There are other Catholics who have had much greater success, like my friends Scott Hahn and Steve Ray. The difference is, they are not demagogues who poison people against the Church and gather a cult around themselves. So please don’t insult my intelligence by saying “no disrespect intended” and then pulling this stupid mind-reading trick of ascribing to jealousy what I made perfectly plain in what I already wrote.

  • Anne

    I’m a huge fan of Simcha and she has a valid point. But this is Fr Z’s cruise too – why no vilification of him? I just recently came upon these articles and this apparent venom you have for Voris is destructive. I first found his passion refreshing, and his view of the subject matter sound, but yes, he can be very harsh and quick to strike a hard blow, lacking tact and mercy. However, your language when dealing with him is just as harsh – just as judgemental – and destructive to the unity of the faith. We’re just coming out of the ‘Spirit of Vatican II’ and rediscovering what Catholicism actually is! Why the personal vendetta? A little unity and charity wouldn’t go amiss.

    • Mark Shea

      Don’t you think it odd that you complain of divisiveness while simultaneously asking why I don’t attack more people?

      • Anne

        I’m merely pointing out incongruities which point to this being about more than the Lenten cruise and its inappropriateness. People are generally of the belief that only *my* position is correct (or else we would not hold it) – no further to the right, nor to the left – but unless heresy or disobedience is involved, we should show a little charity. The Church has enemies both in and outside the church, those of us faithful to the Magisterium are not that numerous. A house divided against itself and all that…

  • Joan

    I believe today’s post at Canterbury Tales is excellent and this is what Mr. Voris has been speaking about through his media. I think that you have not understood his intentions.

  • Allison

    One of my friends works for Mr. Voris and one day we were talking about the dust-up about the whole “The Archdiocese of Detroit says that the group doesn’t have the right to call itself ‘Catholic’” schtick. They then talked about how it made them like Archbishop Vigneron (our dear Archbishop and a very faithful and holy man) less because he got involved and how he is trying to “put orthodox Catholics down.”

    I told them a.) I don’t recall His Excellency ever saying anything about it. It was mostly some of the people in the Chancery (as far as I am aware) who made the big deal of it. b.) The Archbishop had every right to say what he did (if he did) since they do work out of the Archdiocese and the buck stops with him when it comes to the souls in the see. C.) Church politics are worse than secular politics because people hijack the whole “it’s for the greater glory of God” thing for their own purposes (I have seen it and it makes me angry) which may or may not be genuine.

    Needless to say, that started to set them straight and then they looked into it more and their view of our dear Archbishop changed.

    While his intentions are good (for the most part), I think his way of executing it is a bit flawed. Perhaps it can be classified as misguided zeal with a bit of hubris but who among us does not have a bit of a prideful streak? It’s just that it’s more pronounced in some.

    Though, full disclosure, I have to say that I have been on the receiving end of some of the stuff Mr. Voris talks about with traditional Catholics being poo-poo’d and the like. I still love the Church. I still love the clergy. I think we need to pray for them and encourage them to greater faithfulness to the Church. While we cannot pass judgement on the soul of another, we can encourage one another to become saints.

  • TC

    Glad to hear a counter-comment here, someone posts this Church Militant stuff over at the Catholic Answer forum, at least they have. I’ve watched some of it, did not agree with it, glad to have my sentiments confirmed.

  • John King

    Mark Shea – you totally miss the picture here and I can only speculate why. Most people like to watch “The Vortex” because of the orthodoxy not because of Voris. Maybe there is a few weirdos out there who watch him the wrong reasons. The same could be said of any public figure. Recently “The Church Militant” made a change of presenters of the “Catholic News Roundup” segment. If they made a change of the presenter of the Vortex and he or she presented as well or better than Voris, then great! You are doing the same thing that you accuse this “The Cult of Personality” of doing. Your blog attacks them. The difference is that your indictment of them is…well.. “The Cult of Personality”??? What about the EWTN? Do they not have personality with Mother Angelica and Father Pacwa. What about Catholic Answers with Jimmy Akin? What kind of indictment is “The Cult of Personality”? The fact is every show has “The Cult of Personality” by your definition. Oh I get it, because these other personalities don’t say anything negative about the American Bishops. Well, Mother Angelica did some time ago and almost lost the network. Now the chickens have come home to roost for the Cardinal leading the attack. Are Catholics not to question what Priests and Bishops do or not do? Stop your “Cult of Personality” schtick and present rational arguments that would attract intelligent people to debate.