As Christianity Fades in Europe…

…people don’t believe in nothing, but in anything. One popular alternative for people of a conservative bent who no longer care about God is blood and soil racism and worship of the ethnos. People who like the trappings of Christianity loot it for the bits and pieces that are useful to their idolatry of blood. People who don’t care for Christianity often just go straight for fake Asatru paganism and similar bullshit. And people who like a certain gleaming scientific cast to their race worship prefer to toss around “human biodiversity” claptrap.

Meanwhile, God is no respecter of person and in Christ Jesus there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female. But given the conservative anti-charism of discernment, it appears that this latest demented trend has a bright future among the post-Christian Bright Young Things in College Republican circles. At best, the whole thing will end in gales of derisive laughter at the new racialism. At worst, it will end, as it has done many times before, in an ocean of blood.

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  • Dave G.

    “given the conservative anti-charism of discernment, it appears that this latest demented trend has a bright future among the post-Christian Bright Young Things in College Republican circles”

    Are there any stats to support this? I read the article at that site, and thought there would be something substantive about the growing trend or popular acceptance. I didn’t see any. A charge like this is pretty serious. Preemptive accusations can be their own problem. Some graphs or numbers or something would lend credibility to the charge..

    • chezami

      The charge that racialism might either peter out in derision from sane people or end in an ocean of blood is serious? I suppose so.

      Oh wait! You mean the charge that the people who go for this bullshit tend to hail from the fringes of the Thing that Used to be Conservatism and not from the left. Well facts are facts, Dave. They do. You won’t find this stuff being taken with chin-stroking seriousness on the left. How many righties are stupid enough to play with this fire I have no idea. That’s why I don’t know if it will peter out and die covered in derision or end in an ocean of blood. I only know that you will look for it in vain among Young Democrats and find it being treated with brow-furrowed seriousness (and alarmed panic at the brow-furrowed serious by sane conservatives) among College Republicans.

      Conservatives have two options: 1. fight this filth or 2. complain about being persecuted by liberals who notice this pathology growing in their ranks. If the Thing that Used to be Conservatism is true to its recent history, it will opt for the latter–stupid–course instead of the former.

      • Dave G.

        Ditch the tribalist paradigm and see that these things are emerging across the board. Trying to hammer things into quickly fading stereotypes will go a long way toward missing the chance to actually raise the red flags. Right? Left? I’m afraid it’s not that simple any more.

        • chezami

          No, fascination with white racialist bullshit looting Christianity for its justification is not emerging “across the board”. It is exclusively a phenomenon on the right.

          • Dave G.

            That particular form of racism is most likely common to those in more conservative leaning circles. But I would have to try to miss the other, no less deplorable, forms of such thinking in other circles that are decidedly not right wing. That’s the point. It is a problm worth warning about after all. See TMLutas above.

            • chezami

              I’m not saying racism is a whites only phenom. I’m saying that exploitation of “Euro-Christianity” and similar bullshit is.

              • Dave G.

                I didn’t say it was whites only. I merely pointed out that it is far and away from being a Right only phenomenon.

        • The Deuce

          I’d agree with Mark that this particular form of racialism is almost exclusively on the right – at least among white people who partake in it. OTOH, in the way that it seeks to hijack Christianity for a narrow racialist narrative and corrupt it with a secularistic ideology, it’s an almost exact mirror image of liberation theology, which is more popular among black and Hispanic people.

      • http://chicagoboyz.net/ TMLutas

        While racialism takes significantly different form on the left, giving the left a pass on racialism is neither productive nor accurate.

        Confront white liberals with black conservatives and you will be shocked at how quickly they deploy racialist tactics. But it’s not just done to promote the social unacceptability of minorities being on the right. Mocking Gov. Romney’s family picture they put out as a Christmas card is a recent example that there is plenty of racialist sickness on the left.

        • chezami

          Nobody’s giving the left a pass on racialism. What I’m doing, as a Catholic, is focusing on that form of racialism that tries to exploit European Catholic history as a justification for racism. This is an exclusively conservative phenomenon.

          • Dave G.

            Then IMHO the focus should have been on tearing down the bs theories. Not making preemptive accusations. I think that would have been much more interesting.

          • http://chicagoboyz.net/ TMLutas

            “Nobody’s giving the left a pass on racialism” you say? That is unadulterated nonsense.

            The EU is dominated by what we would call the left. They dominate it politically, economically, and culturally. Their pathologies are dominantly ones that afflict leftists. The right wing pathologies (and they are right wing pathologies) you’re talking about are predominantly being adopted by “outs” who are mostly absorbing their ideas of what right wing is from the predominant left wing cultural caricature of the modern right. This leads to an unfortunate number of people in deep blue territories who predominantly know what they have in the local power structure is wrong and they’re for anything those guys hate.

            There’s something of a detox process when you meet somebody like that. In political terms, you introduce them to the source documents of conservatism. In the case of the religious version of it, a similar process applies. Inauthentic aping of european Catholic culture elements is never going to be a big threat in the face of an authentic promulgation of the real thing. The pathway to fixing this is pretty well trod ground.

            • chezami

              By “nobody” I’m talking about me, in this thread, which is about Dark Enlightenment bullshit, not about all bullshit everywhere.

              • ivan_the_mad

                You’d think this would be obvious.

              • http://chicagoboyz.net/ TMLutas

                That’s a very strange definition of “nobody”. Your defense is as if it would be improper to examine the totality of the record for a pattern. But the pattern *is* the problem.

                The problem I’m identifying is excessive focus on a smaller problem when there’s a bigger problem that’s getting less attention. If I’m mistaken, there would be a raft of articles on the other side, taking to task the left for their racialism and you could easily refute my protest by providing the links. But that’s not where you’re going with this.

                Racialism is used as a disqualifier by the left to gin up the mob to go after the right. Legitimate, real cases of racialism that are unsupported by reality (and this is one, I want to be clear about it) should be taken down. The disproportionate addressing of the right when the left gets a pass over time is a problem. It’s not quite Matthew 7:3 but it is a related sin.

  • Mark S. (not for Shea)

    If trends continue, I expect Europe to be strongly Muslim by the end of this century. And I’m not sure that’s entirely bad. Given the choice between European humanism hellbound to allow euthanasia, infanticide, and unrestricted abortion on demand vs. European Islam, I’m not sure I wouldn’t rather have Muslim neighbors.
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    There’s a lot of wisdom in Peter Kreeft’s observation that Islam tried for hundreds of years to conquer Europe with the sword and failed. Now, Islam is conquering it with the most powerful weapon on Earth: mothers.

    • MarylandBill

      And when the day comes that Western Europe has been become Islamic, I suspect that the dissenters won’t be atheists and humanists, but rather a Christian minority. But be careful, many of our Christian brothers and sisters in the near east have found that at times it can be a tough cross to carry.

    • Chase

      After living and Europe and seeing the kind of Islam that is spreading there, I’m not so sure I agree.

      Besides, the US is faaar more abortion-happy than any major European country, both in absolute numbers and legal permissiveness. Our homosexualist lobby is way more strident and intolerant than theirs.

      On the other hand, I don’t put much stock in long-term demographic projections of any sort. It tends to be a shot in the dark, and could only surprise me if it’s right.

      Islamification of Europe would be s great a disaster as secularization. Both should be reasonable feared and peacefully, but firmly resisted.

  • Chase

    Wow, reading the comments, I can hardly believe those are not deliberate trolls there. If it weren’t so dangerous, it’s be hilarious to read how “Christianity has become identical with Cultural Marxism”, how how earlier, manlier “Germanic Christianity” has been diluted by the third world. Really? Has he checked out where the wishy washy liberalism is coming from? Northern Europe leads, whereas it’s in Africa that the tough, virile forms of Christianity are thriving (for better or for worse – it also leads to some disgusting “identitarian” crap and literal and figurative witch-hunts there).

    Also the ridiculously stupid notion that medieval Christianity was “non-egalitarian”. Um, what? Besides the blissful unawareness of medieval man to the extremely recent concept of race these idiots tout, have they ever seen a “Danse Macabre” image or read the Church’s stance in the rich and the poor then, or the political notions that kings are themselves subject to the law? It was really 18th and 19th century Christianity that was reacting so strongly against the democratic movements of their day, and the new-fangled claims of absolute monarchism, a decidedly un-medieval idea.

    Oh, and I love the idea about mining pre-Civil War “intellectual” and “Scripture-based” post-hoc justifications for slavery. Yes, because certainly the devil is incapable of quoting Scripture to his advantage.

    In the end, I don’t think we can heap enough mockery, derision, and laughter upon all forms of modern Neo-Paganism. They (the religions) do not deserve the respect and dignity afforded to real religions arising out of man’s honest, but erroneous search for God. These stupid clubs like Wicca and Neo-Norse/ Neo-Roman stuff should be mocked and laughed at by everyone, an are deserving of not announce of respect, because even they don’t take themselves seriously. Unless they’re racialist pseudo-intellectuals, of course.

  • Humphrey

    When a shepard loses his flock who should we blame, the flock or the shepard?

    • EMG

      No, the flock doesn’t get off that easy. The flock aren’t sheep – they have reason. And the truth hasn’t changed or become less accessible. If the flock falls for this crap, they have no one but themselves to blame.


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