Military Under Fire: How Would the Repeal of DOMA and Gay Marriage Affect Military Chaplains?

How would the repeal of DOMA and the legalization affect military chaplains?

When you consider this president’s previous attacks on religious freedom, that is a sobering question.

This video from the Marriage Anti-Defamation Alliance discusses these questions.

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  • Wesley

    If chaplins dont want to follow the law and discrminate on people because of gay marriages. all I can say is YOU CAN QUIT. no one cares about your Beliefs so you can discriminate. I’m so glad that Obama has mad a differance He is a great man and you people need to grow up no one cares about the man and woman game anymore.
    YEA OBAMA, YEA ON GAY MARRIAGE, GOODBYE TO IDIOTS LIKE U

    • Theodore Seeber

      And thus the persecution continues. Nothing like a minority grabbing the power of a dictator.

  • good as you

    I second Wesley’s comments above.

    If a person cannot or will not do their job, they should have the integrity to quit or should be fired.

    • Rebecca Hamilton

      When people go to a chaplain, they are usually seeking advice from someone they trust to counsel them in accordance with a shared faith commitment. For Christians, that would be someone who will give them counsel based on the Gospels of Christ and 2,000 years of Christian teaching. That is why they go to a chaplain rather than their best friend or their plumber.

      The reason the military has chaplains is that this country has always treated the free exercise of religious faith as a Constitutional right. This is why our country also give exemptions (including exemption based on personal conscience rather than formal religious dogma) to those who cannot kill other people.

      I would guess that military chaplains perform an important service by providing counsel, opportunities for worship and other things which are specific to faith commitment.

      For these reasons, when these chaplains refuse to compromise the teachings of the Gospels about marriage, they ARE doing their jobs. If the government attempts to coerce military chaplains to teach what the government approves rather than what their faith believes, not only will the chaplains who go along not be doing their jobs, but the value of going to them for counsel, comfort and worship will be destroyed for the members of the military who need those things.

      What you are demanding in the name of requiring that the “do their jobs” is tyranny. It fits very well with the concerns I have expressed about atheist governments in other posts that you can find here, here, and here.

      • Eric

        And how do Catholic chaplains currently handle the remarried living in adulterous relationships? Why should gays be treated any different than any other couple the chaplain views as sinful?

        • Rebecca Hamilton

          Eric, I don’t believe you are talking about the same thing that the people in this video are. Homosexuals can and do go to their priests for confession the same as any other Catholic. This is where the kind of issue you are talking about is usually handled. What I’m talking about is the government forcing a Catholic chaplain (or a chaplain of any other denomination that holds it sinful) to perform same-sex marriages or things of that ilk. I have never known a priest who would refuse to hear someone’s confession, and from my experience they are usually kind to the penitent and very helpful.

  • Bill S

    My whole argument for gay marriage is that it is a private matter between two consenting adults with little or no impact on anyone else. That would not be the case if chaplains were required to perform services or be discharged. If that were the case I would support their rights to live according to their faith and conscience. I don’t think that is going to be the result, though.

  • ChipC

    I would imagine Chaplains would do whatever they do for opposite sex couples who are not qualified to remarry (e..g. divorce). I don’t know how this is any different. The Church shouldn’t lobby for laws that prevent same-sex couples from having a Civil Marriage or marriage in a more progressive church. Likewise, the government shouldn’t, and cannot, force a Chaplain to provide the sacrament of Holy Matrimony to a couple that does not meet the requirements of their church. If everyone could differentiate between CIVIL MARRIAGE and HOLY MATRIMONY and respect all faith’s right to each determine who qualifies for HOLY MATRIMONY peoples panties wouldn’t be getting into so much of a wad.

    • Ted Seeber

      Exactly why the only sane solution is the complete elimination of civil marriage. Get your government out of my Church!

  • Hyhybt

    Why do they portray chaplains being *allowed the choice* to perform ceremonies if they want to as their being *forced* to perform them, and treat not allowing them to marry gay couples even if they want to as protecting their freedom?


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