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James 5:1-6

Come now, you rich people, weep and wail for the miseries that are coming to you.

Your riches have rotted, and your clothes are moth-eaten.

Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you, and it will eat your flesh like fire.

You have laid up treasure for the last days.

Listen! The wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts.

You have lived on the earth in luxury and in pleasure; you have fattened your hearts on a day of slaughter.

You have condemned and murdered the righteous one, who does not resist you.

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  • chris kern

    Oh no, it’s class warfare!

  • Anonymous

    I was recently given the “when was the last time you were given a job by a poor person” line. My response was “all my jobs were given to me by poor people, all jobs are given by poor people. Poor people are the ones who spend the money to buy the products that are being sold which drives our economy.”

    I think we’re creeping into a world where the capitalist is considered doing a favor for the consumer by selling goods. It lines up with how boycotts have lately been called “economic terrorism.”

  • Anonymous

    when was the last time you were given a job by a poor person

    Couple years ago. Small businesses produce half the country’s jobs, and I was employed by a small business. I’ll grant that I may not count, because the small business in question is a government contractor, but still.

    boycotts have lately been called “economic terrorism.”

  • I’ve always loved this verse ever since I first saw John Goodman as Huey Long utter the first part of it in the US Senate.

  • Sounds like the kind of thing that outcasts and have-nots like the early Christians would embrace as true because it’s reassuring. After all, it says that the rich bastards will eventually suffer by losing all of their material possessions, and who HASN’T wanted some creep in a position of power to suffer that way?

    Of course, it isn’t true. Slimeballs who happen to be rich do not always lose all of their material possessions, nor do the cries of their workers stop them. You can say that all this is going to happen when they go to Hell–but again, that sounds more like a fantasy of a poor person who’s been crushed by rich douchebags and who wants some revenge, damn it!

  • Anonymous

    *shrugs* The one who dies with the most toys still dies, and you can’t get to heaven on roller skates. And we know Occupy is being heard because if Occupy wasn’t being heard there wouldn’t be nearly the effort that’s being put forth to get Occupy to shut up and go away.

  • Everyone dies. No one knows what happens after. There’s been a lot of speculation, but none of the answers are provable. I stand by the statement that someone who wants revenge against the society crushing them will want a) the people crushing him to be down and out, just like he is now and b) the same people, if they aren’t punished now, to be punished forever after they die.  It’s not a religious thing. It’s a human thing.

    Also, I wasn’t thinking solely about Occupy, but about all the have-nots down through the ages–serfs tied to the land and the will of their liege lord, slaves from all countries and eras, families in the rookeries of Victorian London making phosphorus matches and getting sick as a result, people trying to organize into unions and being battered as a result, those caught in layoffs that happen as the result of power plays or political deals as well as for economic reasons. I think that all those people would have had–and, in the case of the modern ones, still do have–damned good reason for wanting the uber-rich to hurt for a change. 

    And I can understand the mentality. Hell, I frequently feel that way myself. But just because you want something to happen–now or later–doesn’t mean that it will. 

  • 17catherines

    Hey, I’ve sung that!

  • Kukulkan

    Loki100 wrote:

    I think we’re creeping into a world where the capitalist is considered doing a favor for the consumer by selling goods. It lines up with how boycotts have lately been called “economic terrorism.”

    When I got my first job years ago my employer always acted as if my expecting to be paid for my work was me being a greedy bastard that was taking the food out of his children’s mouths. That I was somehow unfairly extorting him by collecting a pay cheque. And that he was being incredibly generous in giving it to me.

    My response was that the money was mine. It had become mine when I did the work. The fact that it hadn’t been transferred to me yet was simply a question of accounting.

    That attitude was very unusual at the time, as I discovered with subsequent employers and from talking with other people, but I suspect it may be gaining ground.


  • I think that attitude is probably connected with the unemployment rate in some way. When jobs are scarce, it’s easy for one of the few employers left to start thinking of the jobs that they do offer as some kind of charit… some kind of gift.