No, no, no — we were fine with D’Souza’s racism, but the adultery is upsetting

LifeWay Christian book stores still carry Dinesh D’Souza’s books. For now.

The journalistic scoop belongs to Warren Cole Smith of the very conservative World magazine, so we’ll quote from his report first:

About 2,000 people gathered on Sept. 28 at First Baptist North in Spartanburg, S.C., to hear high-profile Christians speak on defending the faith and applying a Christian worldview to their lives. Among the speakers: Eric Metaxas, Josh McDowell, and — keynote speaker for the evening — best-selling author, filmmaker, and Christian college president Dinesh D’Souza.

Dinesh D’Souza says anti-colonialism is un-American. He even says this in D.C., in a city named after George Washington.

D’Souza’s speech earned him a standing ovation and a long line at the book-signing table immediately afterward. Although D’Souza has been married for 20 years to his wife, Dixie, in South Carolina he was with a young woman, Denise Odie Joseph II,* and introduced her to at least three people as his fiancée.

Finally, near 11 p.m., event organizer Tony Beam escorted D’Souza and Joseph to the nearby Comfort Suites. Beam noted that they checked in together and were apparently sharing a room for the night in the sold-out hotel. The next morning, around 6 a.m., Beam arrived back at the hotel and called up to D’Souza’s room. “We’ll be down in 10 minutes,” D’Souza told Beam. D’Souza and Joseph came down together, and Beam took them to the airport.

The next day another conference organizer, Alex McFarland, distressed by D’Souza’s behavior, confronted him in a telephone conversation. D’Souza admitted he shared a room with his fiancée but said “nothing happened.” When I called D’Souza, he confirmed that he was indeed engaged to Joseph, but did not explain how he could be engaged to one woman while still married to another. When asked when he had filed for divorce from his wife, Dixie, D’Souza answered, “Recently.”

Amy Sullivan describes “The Right-wing Rivalry Behind” that scoop:

Needless to say, this sort of thing is frowned upon in the conservative religious circles in which D’Souza is usually celebrated. So it is perhaps unsurprising that the story was broken by Warren C. Smith, a writer and associate publisher for the evangelical World magazine. The publication has a history of covering problems within the evangelical world, and it has not shied away from stories about preacher scandals or church abuse of women. But this particular story may have interested the magazine for a different reason: World’s editor-in-chief is Marvin Olasky, the sometime Bush advisor who is no fan of D’Souza.

Olasky served, briefly, as provost of The King’s College. He resigned shortly after D’Souza became the school’s president. Read the whole thing for Sullivan’s take on the nasty history between these two nasty men.

Christianity Today’s report notes that “D’Souza has regularly appeared in CT’s pages.” One example of that is CT’s report on D’Souza’s hiring at King’s, which emphasized that the conservative activist’s Roman Catholic faith should not preclude him from membership in the evangelical tribe:

D’Souza’s wife, Dixie, is an evangelical, and the family has attended Calvary Chapel, a nondenominational evangelical church in San Diego, for the past 10 years. He has been invited to speak in several churches and colleges, including Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church and Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University.

“I do not describe myself as Catholic today. But I don’t want to renounce it either because it’s an important part of my background. I’m an American citizen, but I wouldn’t reject the Indian label because it’s part of my heritage,” D’Souza said. “I say I have a Catholic origin or background. I say I’m a nondenominational Christian, and I’m comfortable with born-again.”

He said that his views align with the Apostles’ Creed and C. S. Lewis’s Mere Christianity.

That’s the imprimatur — the stamp of approval.

But D’Souza wasn’t embraced by the evangelical tribe just because he affirms the creeds and C.S. Lewis. What made CT and King’s College and the rest of mainstream evangelicalism decide that D’Souza was one of us was his political history — a former policy aide in the Reagan White House, D’Souza is fiercely opposed to abortion, gay rights, feminism and progressive taxation.

As Sarah Posner said, “D’Souza’s … rise in the evangelical world is due in no small part to his conspiracy-minded claims about President Obama’s ‘Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior.'”

Yes, conspiratorial warnings about Africans and anti-colonialism contributed to D’Souza’s legitimacy among evangelicals.

Bruce Garrett notes some of D’Souza’s odious political history:

How the man who, while editor of the Dartmouth Review, penned a racist parody of African American students titled “This Sho Ain’t No Jive Bro” and later outed a gay student using stolen mail between members of the Dartmouth Gay Student Alliance can in any sense be labeled a Christian is something confederate Christianists can explain I suppose.

Those two themes — racism and anti-gay sentiment — have endured as the hallmarks of much of D’Souza’s “scholarship.”

Alvin McEwen highlights a 2008 article of D’Souza’s titled, “Gay Rights vs. Democracy,” in which he pulls the man-on-dog nonsense.

Here is D’Souza’s idea of scholarship: “Why doesn’t the Fourteenth Amendment protect the fellow who wants to walk down the aisle with his poodle on the grounds that ‘I love my dog and my dog loves me’?” (What is it about the idea of consent that confuses these folks so much?)

Grace at Are Women Human? echoes Garrett’s observation, noting — savoring — the irony that D’Souza’s adultery has done what his nasty racism and homophobia never did, diminished his standing amongst evangelicals. The entire post — a Snoopy-dance of schadenfreude — is great fun, but the kernel of it is summed up in this one tweet from Grace:

Does it matter than D’souza peddles racist, colonialist lies? Nope. But he shared a hotel room with a woman he’s not married to! OH NOES

Or, as she writes in the post itself:

Sarah Posner writes for Religion Dispatches that this (presumed) sex scandal may spell the end for D’Souza’s once rising star. Note, not the fact that he’s been peddling racist and colonialist lies to white Christians for fun and profit for the past forever, but because of what’s assumed about his marriage and sex life. PRIORITIES.

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* Brian Tashman at Right Wing Watch quotes from a post by Odie Joseph II at Smart Girl Politics, which bears the unfortunate title of “Whatever Happened to Good Ole Hypocrisy?

Feminists and liberals … tore the traditional family to shreds until they reduced us to the shining bastion of zoological (but even animals aren’t this bad and do not depend on the state to care for them) cesspool equality that we have now in every American ghetto and which is seeping out into the middle and upper classes in less animated ways.

Her bogeymen are just like those of her boyfriend: Black.

As women spearhead the demise of the ideal, the alternative to hypocrisy, they spearhead the demise of social order as we know it and love it. Henceforth, all of us will be staring down the barrel of life in a hip hop video or government-funded project. …

Buzzfeed snagged a cached copy of Odie Joseph’s blog (which disappeared when the story broke), which reveals her to have been a fan of D’Souza’s books — and of Ayn Rand.

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  • AnonymousSam

    Also food for thought: if one look at the glory of creation is proof of God’s existence, why do you keep referring to Satan and Antichrists being everywhere and this being a fallen world?

    If you want to argue that the world itself is proof of divinity, it’s better to start with the premise that it’s not a festering hellhole.

  • Carstonio

    Dumb semi-rhetorical question – how can Zero Population Growth be objectively immoral? I’m not arguing that it’s moral. I could understand opposition to ZPG if infertility was widespread. Even that would entail the assumption that the continued survival of the human race is a good thing, and again my point in mentioning that is not necessarily to contest it but to emphasize that it’s an assumption. Ideally, an assertion about the morality of any level of population growth, positive or negative, should have some rationale behind it.

  • Carstonio

     The central flaw with a “God of the gaps” argument is that it doesn’t really fill the knowledge gap, but instead replaces one mystery with another. That flaw doesn’t negate the possibility that gods exist. Instead, it simply indicates the weakness in one particular concept about gods. I’ve long said that it’s possible that gods exist that don’t have the power to create a universe or create life, and many religions profess the existence of gods whose powers are limited that way.

  • So, for the rest of you atheists who enjoy/ed loving relationships with
    your fathers, your atheism is due, largely, to desiring narcissistic
    “free love.”

    Bless your heart.

  • Actually, I do not directly quote Mr. Spiege, Greenygal.  My own words
    are mixed in with his.

    You know what we call that kind of unattributed word for word lifting?


    He simply puts more succinct words to my very
    same thoughts.  At times I choose not to reference a source because I
    know the hate some Christian authors generate.

    And this?

    Selective attribution.

    Neither does you credit in your self-portrayal as an honest, moral human being.

    Or do you believe in the acceptability of “lying for Jesus”?

  • Also:

    It is noted that there are criticisms of Hoyle’s statements regarding the alleged statistical likelihood of assembling a (fully unloaded) 747.

  • The closest I come to understanding this is approaching it from the other direction.

    The 1960s notion of “free love”, the modern notion that people get to choose how they express their sexuality, furtive promiscuity, healthy and responsible sexual activity outside of marriage, rape, child molestation, responsible polyamory, deceitful infidelity, closeted homosexuality, out-and-proud homosexuality, same-sex married couples worried about how to pay the mortgage… these are all importantly different things, some good, some bad.

    But if I were to assume that there exists a single special set of rules and behaviors
    that define how to be a moral sexual agent, and that set happens to
    align perfectly with the beliefs of a particular American religious sect
    in the late 2oth/early 21st century, then I could divide all sex-related
    behavior into two categories: what that sect endorses, and everything

    So if all of the above fall into the “everything else” category for Ginny’s preferred sect, it’s perhaps unsurprising if she describes my monogamous committed 20-year relationship with my husband as “promiscuous” or “free love” or “polyamorous” or who knows what. It’s not that she has some particular similarity in mind, it’s just that the distinctions don’t matter to her.

    This is kind of in the same sense that for a practicing Orthodox
    Jew, roast pork, barbecue pork, ham and fried pork rinds are all pretty
    much the same thing.

  • P J Evans

    Is Hoyle’s statement something like the one one of my college teachers had, that it’s possible to throw apiece of chalk through a solid wall (but that you might have to throw it at the wall for an extremely long time)?


    how can Zero Population Growth be objectively immoral?

    (shrug) If God wants us all to “be fruitful and multiply,” meaning have lots of kids, and if morality is defined objectively in terms of what God wants, then not having lots of kids is objectively immoral.

    Zero Population Growth requires not having lots of kids, QED.

    Of course, those first two “if”s are rather a big pill to swallow.

  • Lunch Meat

    So if all of the above fall into the “everything else” category for
    Ginny’s preferred sect, it’s perhaps unsurprising if she describes my
    monogamous committed 20-year relationship with my husband as
    “promiscuous” or “free love” or “polyamorous” or who knows what. It’s
    not that she has some particular similarity in mind, it’s just that the distinctions don’t matter to her.

    This is kind of in the same sense that for a practicing Orthodox Jew, roast pork, barbecue pork, ham and fried pork rinds are all pretty much the same thing.

    And the same way that atheists, Muslims, satanists, and pagans are all the same, because they all secretly believe in the RTC God/TurboJesus but hate him. Probably your relationship with your husband is evil because you don’t really love him, you’re just with him because you like sin or something.

  • Carstonio

     While I agree with your point, I wasn’t asking for that type of deconstruction. By “objectively immoral” I meant nonsectarian, where all religions’ assertions about gods were taken off the table. Imagine another religion that claimed that its god forbade reproduction, something akin to the Shaker teaching on celibacy. Both this claim and the “be fruitful and multiply” claim cannot both be correct, so the prudent course by advocates of both is to argue their case from a nonsectarian basis.

  •  Exactly. And, yeah, any number of people have informed me that my husband and I don’t really love each other, precisely under this sort of reasoning.

  • Well, if everyone happened to agree that children were the most valuable thing ever, there would be nonsectarian agreement that ZPG was immoral. I’m not sure in what sense that’s objective, though. And it turns out not to be the case.

  • Yeah. It’s technically correct, but for all practical purposes useless as an analogy.

  • AnonymousSam

    That’s just that defiance against God’s authority you have in you thanks to all the pornography you look at and your bad relationship with your father that a total stranger on the Internet knows far better than you. As you well know and are lying if you say otherwise, Christianity is the only true religion, so what any other religious people have to say is automatically invalid, and likewise a nonsectarian argument is meaningless because you’re automatically wrong and lying if you try and take God off the table. Silly Carstonio.

    tl;dr: Ginny isn’t interested in arguing in good faith.

  • Carstonio

    “Children are the most valuable thing ever” is an assertion of value, which is a subjective concept regardless of the number of people who agree with the assertion.

    Whereas  “A supreme being orders humanity to be fruitful and multiply” and “A supreme being orders humanity to be celibate” are both assertions of fact, meaning that they’re either true or false regardless of the number of people who believe in them. If these can’t be proven or disproven, then they’re meaningless in an argument about the morality of reproduction or nonreproduction.

  • VMink

    Ginny isn’t interested in arguing in good faith.

    After a thousand posts (I think they were shooting for a record; let’s see if they show up again) and in all that time a cowardly refusal to answer a simple, yet important question — “What should the punishment be for a woman who has an abortion in a jurisdiction where abortion is illegal?” — this is definitely not a surprise.

    And it all started with her defending Dinesh D’Souza’s adultery.

  • AnonymousSam

    Definitely not. Sadly, I think this is a common mindset for a lot of conservatives — not only assuming they know the truth, but that everyone else does too, and any protestations to the contrary are smokescreen to divert attention away from the real problem: being too stubborn, prideful and rebellious to admit what they already know to be true.

    It’s the most artful form of tribalism, where there aren’t even any other tribes, just people who know they’re part of the tribe and people who are childishly pretending otherwise.

  •  Nah. It’s fine to have lots of kids, so long as you kill an equal number of people.

    Given that the policies advocated by people like GBA do lead directly to the deaths of women, of the poor, of the unfortunate, I’d think she’d be just fine with it.

  •  Point.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    How nice it is to see Dinesh’s kind smiling face every time I come here.   :)

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    You know it’s the world’s human inhabitants that have chosen to go their own way, rejecting God, and His way, who has shown Himself to one and all, and live narcissistic lives filled with evil to which I am referring, smartie pants.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Why have you chosen to turn your back on Him, Lori? 

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    I knew you would not be able to resist commenting here again!

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    Yet another control freak I see.

  • EllieMurasaki

    Has she? Has she really? How do you explain the planet’s religious diversity–and the vast majority of those religions have records of divine appearances, in most cases records of divine appearances by multiple deities–if there’s only one deity and she’s appeared to “one and all” in a manner consistent with there being only one way to follow her?

  • Ginny Bain Allen
  • AnonymousSam

    That’s peculiar. When God showed itself to me, it very specifically said that there is no possible way it could show itself to everyone and have that message get across in a manner that would be interpreted the same way by everyone.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    God is not female.  She is not named Sophia.  Many suffer from delusions and hallucinations due to mind-altering drugs or the wrong choices they have made in their lives, which result in convoluted thinking.  Unfortunately and mistakenly many refer to psychopaths, sociopaths, character-disordered, anti-social and those with OCD, among others, as being mentally ill.  In reality they have mental WILLness due to rejecting Jesus.  God has left them to their own dark, foolish thinking due to their hardness of heart they have willingly developed towards Him.   

  • EllieMurasaki

    What is your evidence supporting the idea that people who claim to have seen the Christian god have seen an actual deity and people who claim to have seen any other god or never to have seen any gods at all are–I can’t say ‘mentally ill’ here because you clearly prefer to spit upon your half-understanding of the concept than to actually understand and apply the concept.

    What is your evidence supporting the idea that your singular deity is male rather than female, agender, allgender, or third-gender?

    What penalty should apply to someone who gets an abortion in a jurisdiction where abortion is legally murder?

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    God is not an it.

  • Lunch Meat

    I knew you would not be able to resist commenting here again!

    All right, troll, you’re very clever. Positive reinforcement, attention, etc. You can go away now.

  • AnonymousSam

    You are a selfish, hateful, stupid woman, Ginny Bain Allen. The world will be better off when you die.

    Thread unsubscribed.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    So you can feel for yourself but not for others.  Interesting.

  • EllieMurasaki

    Yeah, that’s what ‘sociopath’ means, and Sam’s admitted to being one.

    When a known sociopath shows more empathy than you do? That’s sad, Ms. Allen. That’s truly sad.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    The sad part is Sam could change with Jesus, if she/he would surrender her/his allegiance to Him.  That is her/his only option for lasting change.

  • EllieMurasaki

    That right there? That is another example of you being less empathetic than Sam the KNOWN SOCIOPATH.

    Also, I think you’d be a great deal better off if you weren’t Christian, or at least not a hateful flavor of Christian. But I would never dream of telling you that your only chance at a good life is if you convert.

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    It would not be loving of me if I didn’t tell Sam that Jesus is the Truth, and without Him, Sam does not have a chance of being free and healthy.  It’s due to Sam’s rejection of Jesus that Sam is a sociopath.  

  • EllieMurasaki

    (1) Christian sociopaths exist.

    (2) The loving thing for you to do regarding Sam would be to support Sam as Sam is, and suggest ways for Sam to change only if Sam asks for your input on the matter. Though that’s all trumped by Sam’s disinclination to continue interacting with you, in which case the loving thing for you to do regarding Sam would be to shut the fuck up.

  • Madhabmatics

    someone salt this threads server box so nothing can ever grow here again

  • The_L1985

    I am simply advising you to be a bit nicer and a little less rude.

  • Oh, you have got to be fucking kidding me.

    If nothing else, your God could at least cure mental illness without requiring that faith comes first.

  • Why do you so arrogantly deny the plain and obvious truth of the one true God, the Eternal Spirit of Mothrai?

  • Baby_Raptor

    Fuck you. Fuck you with the sharpest, most painful, most damaging object the world can manage to conjure. 

    Luna’s lacy lingerie…LISTEN TO YOURSELF! Just stop, detach from your bullshit and LISTEN to what you’re saying! Actually HEAR the words you’re condemning people-people you don’t know and never will-with. Listen to the utter tripe you’re spouting. 

    You call telling people that their mental illness is a lie, something that they force on themselves because they don’t buy into your personal set of beliefs “love”? Where did Jesus do that? Where does Jesus encourage the whole-sale ignorance of reality that you’re showing here? And why do you think that god wants you to be so Fucking stupid?

    You have the most Fucked up definition of love I have ever encountered, and I hail from a home that taught me god’s “love” in the form of teaching me that I’m completely worthless because I don’t have a penis. And that I should have married one of the two men that tied me up and raped me for 3 days straight, because I no longer had any worth after losing my virginity. Because god said so. 

    A lot of people leave the very religion you’re touting as “the only way to be healthy” severely damaged and in need of YEARS of help to be okay again. How do you square that with what you’re saying? 

    Sam isn’t the sociopath here. You are. Sam is light years beyond anything you could ever hope to be. You can barely fake being human.

    *stops* I need to shut up and leave. I shouldn’t have come to this thread…I had no idea it would be so triggering. Will someone please enlighten me to a way to ignore or hide certain peoples’ posts, if such a thing exists in Disqus, so I only get one round of triggers from this pathetic excuse for a human? 

  • P J Evans

    She told me he was female. And male, too. Not that it matters for Her: she can be all of them at once.

  • P J Evans

     truth: Jesus didn’t ask questions before curing people. But if they believed, he’d do it anyway.

  • P J Evans

     I don’t know what god you actually worship, but he, she or it is NOT, Not Ever, the God of Jesus. Because that God doesn’t send people to hell for no reason, or any reason: you have to voluntarily send yourself there. WHICH YOU HAVE DONE TO YOURSELF and you continue to deny.
    FOAD, Ginny Bain Allen: you are not a Christian and you hate everyone but yourself and your twisted excuse for a god.

  • I am beginning to wonder how long it will be before someone sufficiently anti-social just writes an Eliza-like program to spam discussion threads with pseudo-responsive comments like Ginny’s latest offerings. 

  • Ginny Bain Allen

    You  obviously listen to satan, the prince of this world.

  • EllieMurasaki

    Prove it.