Fearful symmetry at the National Zoo

“Damai is being a great mom, and is nursing and grooming both cubs.”

“He stopped at the end of the hill and let her out, and she ran to me and said that she needed her mom.”

“This only speaks the level of intense devotion to the craft of poetry that this man possesses.”

Virgins make Good Role Models for Their Children

“I think the unsuccess is a feature, not a bug: the point is to solidify their tribalism.”

“Personally, I’m banking on the hope that God’s not a monstrous jerk or an incompetent lover.”

“To read the story of Adam and Eve as if it were set up to explain human origins is simply wrongheaded.”

“Republicans always want to take the sandwich without paying the $5.”

“In the Bulletproof security case you have the confluence of a number of trends, none of them good, most of them bizarre and some occasionally funny in a macabre sort of way.”

“Of all the ways you can come up with subsidizing a worthy nonprofit organization, a property tax exemption has just about the worst incentive structure you can imagine. If you look at the list of things that churches and other religious institutions spend money on, ‘acquiring land and buildings’ has got to be one of the least socially beneficial and worthy of encouragement.”

“You can basically get Eric Clapton’s or Jackson Browne’s former backing band to be your backing band on your record for around $2000, total.”

“The efficiency standards for ceiling fans were requested by the industry itself so they wouldn’t have to deal with a patchwork of state-by-state regulations, and the standards were approved in 2005. For those keeping score at home, in 2005, there was a Republican White House, a Republican-run Senate, and a Republican-run House.”

“We started our research seeking men in their twenties who had never consumed pornography. We couldn’t find any.”

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  • Lunch Meat

    Every time I got too horrified and depressed by the excerpts from the LaHaye book, I went back to the tigercam and all was well.

  • VMtheCoyote

    Ah, so that’s the secret! I tried to read the whole thing in one go and still can’t figure out whether to laugh or cry.

  • Lori

    That is truly a tough choice. Unless you’re one of the people who got a personalized sex talk letter from Timmay.

    Also, if you send the LaHayes $4 and some basic information, they will mail your teen a personalized letter reiterating the things you will talk about on your Parent/Child Sex-Talk Interrogation Night.

    In that case crying would not be optional.

  • http://anonsam.wordpress.com/ AnonymousSam

    Because if it’s too creepy having your father ask if you know any sexually promiscuous girls, having an 87 year old man do it is surely going to be better!

  • Lori

    Be fair. He was only 72 when that book came out.

    Not like that’s appreciably better or anything.

  • http://kingdomofsharks.wordpress.com/ D Johnston

    Is it sad that I want to get my hands on one of LaHaye’s nonfiction books? The stuff he wrote before LB seems somewhat rare, which is a shame since some of these things seem built to mock. This came to mind:

    Before he dates, [a boy] should be taught by his parents that girls are not only highly emotional, but their mood swings often follow their monthly menstrual cycle. That accounts for why his girlfriend may cry more easily at times and possibly spend much of a date close to tears.

    While hardly respectful to young women, this is probably the most delicate response to the question “Why does my date cry every time she looks at me?”

  • Ross Thompson

    Yeah, I read that, and I couldn’t help but thing “If a girl spends much of a date close to tears, you’re doing something wrong.”

  • general_apathy

    This detail seems like a fascinating glimpse into the life of Tim LaHaye.

  • The_L1985

    I can’t help but wonder what sort of things he used to tell his dates, to get that sort of a reaction!

  • Greenygal

    To be fair, she could be upset about something unrelated to the date.

    …in which case, “You seem upset; is everything okay? Can I help?” is still a better response than “That time of the month, huh?”

  • Kubricks_Rube

    Here’s another Lahaye classic from the article:

    “Most of the homosexuals I know indulged in masturbation early and frequently. This seems to be a crucial step in adopting a homosexual lifestyle. As frequent masturbators, they learn to associate their genitals with sexual pleasure.”

    It’s a bizarre theory that pops up from time to time, but Lahaye has that inimitable way of sounding like Jack D Ripper from Dr Strangelove whenever he writes stuff like this.

  • Ross Thompson

    And, as the article points out, who doesn’t associate their genitals with sexual pleasure? But aside from that, why would it lead to homosexuality? I understand that heterosexual sex also tends to involve the genitals.

  • Kubricks_Rube

    I don’t know if it’s extreme confirmation bias- none of the “normal” people he knows would ever talk about these things, and the only gay people he knows are confessing sinners looking for an escape from their illness. Or if it’s purely an updated scare tactic, like saying you’ll go blind or grow hair on your palms.

  • AnonaMiss

    Ah – but heterosexual sex cancels out the pleasure by being done with one of those icky gross women. Who could enjoy that?

  • Lori
  • Panda Rosa

    Don’t forgot, it also creates millions of little half-babies with no place to go.

  • http://blog.trenchcoatsoft.com Ross

    And, if my Abstinence-Only Education is right, and I think it must be because shut up, those are actually literally tiny little half-babies.

    Apropos: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3077

  • Kubricks_Rube

    Also literally gay sex? Doing the laundry, opposing military interventions, losing at arm-wrestling, voting for Democrats, eating steaming piles of vegetables, empathy, taking no for an answer, wearing a condom, finding Ellen funny, compassion, going to the doctor instead of walking it off, watching soccer, crying (unless Brian’s Song is on), letting your wife hold the remote, the Sermon on the Mount, clothes shopping, kids these days, really the list is inexhaustible.

  • Ross Thompson
  • Jessica_R

    Wait, I thought masturbation was committing adultery with yourself. You mean I got those “I’m sorry baby” flowers for myself for nothing? Bah!

  • FearlessSon

    [T]he New York Times notes most members claim “Fight Club” is their favorite movie

    Okay, now that is gay. :p

  • dpolicar

    I think the reasoning, if one can call it that, is that right-thinking Christian heterosexuals understand that their genitals are really about procreation, and that sexual pleasure is just one of those icky biological functions that they have to put up with in order to fulfill their function.

    Whereas the rest of us somehow come to believe that sexual pleasure is an important function of the genitals.

  • Lori

    Do we know how these “sex is only for procreation, so no fun allowed” folks explain the clitoris? It has no purpose other than pleasure. That’s literally all it does.

  • dpolicar

    Is it any harder to explain than orgasms?

    Presumably the whole mindset requires treating pleasure-inducing neurobiology as some kind of trick or biological failing. I imagine it’s rather like the more common attitude that our natural craving for sugar and fat is bad for us.

  • Lori

    Is it any harder to explain than orgasms?

    I think at least a bit more difficult. Orgasms in general can involve parts that also have a reproductive function and it can therefore be seen as a kind of biological trick to make it more likely that folks will reproduce. The clitoris doesn’t have any direct reproductive function. It doesn’t have any function except producing pleasure. Unless folks are going to claim that God made an error or that God put it there strictly as a test I don’t see how it fits into the reproduction only view of things.

  • http://anonsam.wordpress.com/ AnonymousSam

    I’m afraid to give them that idea. We’ve already seen where that can lead.

  • Lori

    Indeed.

  • http://talkingtocrows.tumblr.com/ VMtheCoyote

    The sort of people who are convinced sex is only for procreation and all other folks are sinning* tend to believe that God doesn’t make errors, so…

    uh. God put the clitoris there as a test, I guess. Which. Uh.

    *Some years ago, I had a very, very bewildering conversation with a friend from my childhood in which she explained to me that part of the reason Obama was wrong for president was because he believed in letting gay folks marry, and they believed that God had put them in the wrong body which was why they preferred the same sex, so obviously they were mistaken because God doesn’t make mistakes. All attempts to clarify the difference between homosexual, bisexual, and transgender were in vain. It was one of the more surreal conversations in my life.

  • gpike

    Interestingly, I don’t believe ALL transgender people would describe their experience as “being in the wrong body” – For at least some of us it’s more the case that certain parts of the body we HAVE don’t match our identity. My body would be perfect for me if I could just get rid of the boobs and uterus, haha!

  • gpike

    And at any rate, if I were to take a theological view of myself (though I don’t necessarily subscribe to this view), I’d have to say that God didn’t make a mistake. I was CREATED to be trans/genderqueer. It’s people who don’t accept me who are going against “God’s design”.

  • Alix

    Word to both comments. I may have to steal the “created to be genderqueer” thing myself.

  • http://talkingtocrows.tumblr.com/ VMtheCoyote

    That’s an excellent point (both posts), thank you for pointing it/them out! You’re right that genderqueer doesn’t mean God made a mistake. I’ve never been particularly comfortable in either box, but I think that’s part of identity, not some kind of error in body/mind.

    (ALSO your icon is the best thing ever. Quails are so adorable!)

  • The_L1985

    And their eggs are adorably teensy, too. :3

  • gpike

    Thank you! I am a bird nerd, the icon is part of a bigger piece I did a while back: http://fav.me/d2lhh8h (link if you’d like to see the full version!) : )

  • Ross Thompson

    Do we know how these “sex is only for procreation, so no fun allowed” folks explain the clitoris?

    Because the Fall?

  • Lori

    Possibly, but I think there are implications to that idea that would be problematic for them.

    Them: Sin and Fall and God….gives you a body part that doesn’t do anything but make you feel good.

    Me: So god rewarded us for the Sinning and Falling, and therefore must want us to do more of that, right? Cool.

  • FearlessSon

    You know the expression, “If God wanted us to fly He would have given us wings”? Well, God did not give us wings. But look what he did give us…

  • Charby

    wangs?

  • FearlessSon

    Among other things, such as clitorises.

    If God did not want women sexually pleasured, He would not have given them organs devoted to that sole purpose. A man who claims that women do not or should not get pleasure from sex is clearly going against God’s design. [/facetious theology]

  • FearlessSon

    There are some cultures which will excise the clitoris in young girls precisely because it has “no purpose other than pleasure” and they think that women should not take pleasure from sex. After all, if a woman finds sex pleasurable then she might want more of it, and might not depend exclusively on her husband to provide it.

    Ugh, just typing that makes me shudder.

  • http://shiftercat.livejournal.com/ ShifterCat

    Proof that women are sex-monsters who must be controlled at all costs, I’m guessing.

  • FearlessSon

    I wonder if the likes of Tim LaHay ever have zombie-apocalypse styled fever dreams about sexual liberation (NSFW).

  • We Must Dissent

    What makes you think they’ve heard of the clitoris?

  • Mark Z.

    As opposed to a virtuous God-fearing man like LaHaye, who associates his gallbladder with sexual pleasure.

  • Michael Pullmann

    “Early and frequently” describes my masturbation habits pretty well. The only thing it led to was buying a lot of lotion and Kleenex.

  • http://blog.trenchcoatsoft.com Ross

    I remember when I was, like, thirteen, I was hanging out with some friends, and one of the friend-of-a-friend’s-older-brother guys insisted thatm as the only one of us with a girlfriend, he knew for an absolute fact that girls got PMS every two weeks, and weren’t we stupid little children for thinking otherwise.

    Even at 13, I understood enough to chuckle a bit about that.

  • Albanaeon

    Well, we knew that l&j’s heaven-on-Earth involves no sex, including a line to one of the author’s avatars how his spouse didn’t miss it.

    With this line, and lines like ‘virgin make the good role models for their kids, the most likely conclusion is that LeHaye is really, really bad at this sort of thing.

    TMI, I’m sure, but given the entirety of Left Behind, its not too surprising that LeHaye doesn’t get how to basic human interaction.

  • Baby_Raptor

    Talk about broadly applying stereotypes. Not all women get moody, nor do women who DO get moody do so every single period. Nor do all women have a period every month.

    Also, this makes it sound like PMS is the only reason a woman could have mood swings, which is so not true.

  • Lori

    It also assumes that mood swings are always from happy to teary sad and that’s not true either. Sometimes it’s from fine to angry.

    In short: no one should be taking advice about women from Tim LaHaye. He knows not of what he speaks.

  • FearlessSon

    What confuses me a bit is the whole crying thing. Most of the women I have known tend to get irritable during their period, which I attribute to the physical discomfort of the process more than anything else (almost anyone would be a little more irritable then usual if their body was uncontrollably uncomfortable.) But crying? That seems an unusual reaction in my experience.

  • Alix

    FWIW, I cry when I’m enraged and only when I’m that angry, so…

  • FearlessSon

    Maybe Tim LaHay should stop pissing off his dates then. If Rayford is any indication, he seems to do that a lot.

  • L E

    Well, to be perfectly honest, I cry at schmaltzy TV commercials in the two days before my period, so the stereotype is not entirely without basis.

  • Jamoche

    I attribute to the physical discomfort of the process more than anything else

    Actually no. The mental effects tend to happen before the physical symptoms start – that’s the “pre” part of PMS. I didn’t even notice or connect the inability to retain new information until I was doing a month-long “learn a language by tape” course that just happened to overlap two PMS days. And the physical effects, while annoying, aren’t as bad as a cracked bone; not to say they can’t be a source of irritation, but the mood swings are different.

  • general_apathy

    Well… for one thing, there’s an incredible bias towards attributing all negative emotions in women to PMS (which is shocking when you consider that there’s no conclusive evidence that PMS exists at all). It’s one more way to delegitimize women’s feelings—they’re not there for a reason, it’s just biology!

    (There are some people who experience depression related to their menstrual cycle. But again, very small percentage of the population.)

  • FearlessSon

    I have heard it described that a woman on PMS is not necessarily “more emotional” than at other times, she just has lowered tolerance for bullshit. If something makes her angry during that time, it is not that her anger is irrational, it is just that she has less patience to ignore it like she might otherwise.

    In other words, if a woman always becomes angry during her period, then it means she has had enough of your crap.

  • general_apathy

    if a woman becomes angry during her period

    I should clarify that PMS isn’t “during”; it’s supposed to be a hormonal harbinger, where one gets weepy and irritable several days beforehand. Getting irritable during/because of one’s period is totally a thing (as you mentioned in your top post, it is pretty uncomfortable), it’s the “mysterious lady hormones from nowhere” thing that’s dubious.

    I’ve heard the “lowered tolerance for bullshit” thing before, and… honestly, I don’t like it, and here’s why: all it does is change the story from “you get emotional because you’re a woman!” to “you can’t control your emotions! Because you’re a woman!”

    I mean, if (general) you are really being shitty, then stop that. If you’re being rude, that’s on you. And if she really gets disproportionately angry, she should apologize. Because she is an adult, and that’s how adults should behave. The menstrual cycle isn’t some magic special kind of irritation; ultimately you’re responsible for your actions… saying otherwise is toeing the line of sexist stereotypes.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    A lowered tolerance for bullshit can also come if you get sick, if you’re injured, if… (insert reason here). Being in pain is not fun.

  • general_apathy

    Precisely.

  • Jamoche

    It’s one more way to delegitimize women’s feelings—they’re not there for a reason, it’s just biology!

    That seems to be delegitimizing the actual biological effects, getting us back to the way things were when I was a kid – oh, let’s not try to study this biochemical reaction, it’s just how women are!

    I used to work with ADHD kids, and one thing I noticed was that the internal sensor that says “y’know, there’s being active and there’s bouncing off the walls” was missing. You could *tell* them, and they could step back and realize it, but when it was happening they just didn’t have a clue. Same thing with PMS mood swings and recognizing disproportionate reactions. Then there’s the failure to retain new information effect that is just not avoidable in any way (other than “skip trying to learn new foreign language vocabulary if it’s not sticking, because it won’t”) and certainly not “all in my head”.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    1. This might sound like its intended in jest, but it’s actually quite
    sincere: watching these discussions is like watching an adult struggling
    to reach an agreement with a child who literally doesn’t understand
    what a compromise is.

    The fact that Republicans don’t seem to understand compromise is something I’ve known since the 1990s. Remember that the 1994 “Republican Revolution” was led by a cadre of extreme rightists, who, in the 1960s, had been Leninists. Now, remembering what turn-of-the-century Communist writers used to say about the importance of dogmatic adherence to your doctrine at all costs….

    I think the Repubs only paid attention to that and not about the part where any sensible grown-up has to realize there’s a difference between storming the gates and being the ones in charge. Being in charge is a lot less fun and a lot more work.

    2. We started our research seeking men in their twenties who had never consumed pornography. We couldn’t find any.”

    Hell, I suspect by the time anyone has hit the age of 20 they’ve seen porn. And it’s really not some weird evil thing, honestly. (although it is hella unrealistic in some aspects, particularly the sex positions people have to use so the camera can get those lovely close-ups.)

  • banancat

    Porn is quite common and in theory it is morally neutral. This is why I’d like to see more progressive/feminist porn available (also for selfish reasons). There is a lot of problematic stuff out there but if there were better porn I wouldn’t have any problem with many people seeing it, including teenagers.

  • Lori

    My observation is that even feminist porn is not a good place to learn about sex. There’s always a clash between the demands of the medium (interesting/stimulating to look at) and the demands of actual good sex (feels good).

  • Jeff Weskamp

    That reminds of an article I read by an action film director. He said that if you really want someone who can put on a visually interesting fight scene, hire ballet dancers. Most of the things they do would be counterproductive in a real fight, and he got a lot of complaints from martial arts enthusiasts, but the dancers can put in enough acrobatics and fancy footwork to make things look good.

  • FearlessSon

    Bruce Lee said something similar, about how a professional dancer already has everything they need to be a great martial artist with only minimal training. They already know how control their bodies and use their own mass so well.

    Speaking of professional dancers doing awesome action scenes, hello Summer Glau!

  • Baby_Raptor

    There is a thread similar to this going on at Feministe right now. Someone mentioned makelovenotporn.tv as “not exploitative.”

  • Lori

    Pro-sex. Pro-porn. Pro-knowing the difference is a very wise slogan.

  • gpike

    There’s so little out there that us cartoonists have basically given up and started drawing our own smut, haha.

  • Jenny Islander

    The tiger link reminds me of the boasting about almighty gun nuts runnin’ the post-apocalyptic world HOOO-UH in the comments on the Kessler post.

    See, there are at least 5,000 tigers in captivity in the U.S. right now. Quite a few of them are housed in facilities that aren’t actually tiger proof; it’s just that the cage is where the food is delivered. Interrupt food delivery, and the tiger may well decide to get out and look for some. There are thousands of lions, cougars, leopards, and jaguars in the same situation in this country. Nobody knows exactly how many, what with the number of people who keep ramshackle private menageries and the ranches where captive animals can be “released” into a large yard for trophy “hunts.” And, although there are still roadside exhibits with one animal stuffed into a dog kennel or idiots who try to raise a cute baby lion in their apartments, most big cat owners keep more than one.

    Now, all big cat species can breed up quite rapidly for such large animals. So if SHTF for real, and only one big cat keeper per state decided to release their charges “into the wild” (or their charges released themselves), then in a single human generation, you’d have big cats roaming pretty much everywhere. And what would they have used to practice hunting? Gee, I don’t know, what’s big, slow, meaty, and not as well armed against ambush predators as it thinks it is?

    And if the country really did devolve into a scattering of little redoubts in a sea of banditry, then nobody would be making modern firearms anymore. Once the ammo runs out, you’re going into the woods with black powder weapons–if you’re lucky; crossbows if you’re not. It’s very romantic when you can go home to pizza and beer. When you have to check your trapline knowing that you may be under the bright gaze of an obligate carnivore that can kill you with one strike, while you can’t say the same–not so much.

    Oh, hey, did I mention the feral pigs that plague much of the U.S. even though S has not HTF? Hey, did you know that wild pigs will mob, kill, and eat human beings if given the chance? And they like to run in gangs?

    So even if the nastiest creeps did win and stock their redoubts by raiding all of us “sheeple,” they would still not be the biggest baddest things in the neighborhood.

  • Lori

    Oh, hey, did I mention the feral pigs that plague much of the U.S. even
    though S has not HTF? Hey, did you know that wild pigs will mob, kill,
    and eat human beings if given the chance? And they like to run in
    gangs?

    Those feral pigs are nasty. IIRC some folks studying them found that some of our nastier ones are descended from a particularly mean type of Russian boar. People don’t take them seriously because pigs, but they’re scary. There is no closed season and no bag limit on feral hogs because everyone wants them dead.

    ETA: All those gun lovers who want to prove their manly man cred should really take up hunting feral hogs. They can perform a public service while demonstrating their toughness. And demonstrate it they will, because hunting those things can be legitimately dangerous even for the very well-armed. Plus, free meat which can actually be tasty if handled properly.

  • http://www.oliviareviews.com/ PepperjackCandy

    It depends on what kind of feral hog you are talking about. In Texas, we have the javelina, or collard peccary, which is generally described as a feral hog. They were here before the Spaniards were and so are not an invasive species.

    As an aside, Javelina Harley-Davidson in Boerne, Texas is absolutely my favorite name for a Harley-Davidson dealership ever.

  • Lori

    That is a very cool name. Full credit to whoever came up with it.

    I wish I remembered more details on the whole Russian boar connection. I got that from a show on Nature some years ago, so it’s all a little fuzzy. IIRC some geniuses brought these particularly nasty Russian boars over here to hunt. Because they were rich and bored and stupid and insecure about the size of their penises. As always happens, they were unable to maintain full control of the situation. Some of the boars evaded the Great White Hunters and ended up cross-breeding with local feral hog populations. I have no memory of exactly where the “local” was or how far the subsequent generations have spread.

  • http://kingdomofsharks.wordpress.com/ D Johnston

    Once the ammo runs out, you’re going into the woods with black powder weapons–if you’re lucky; crossbows if you’re not.

    Actually, some gun enthusiasts have ways to solve this problem. You might want to look up “wildcatting,” hand-loading custom rounds. It’s normally done by hunters, who tweak the powder composition of rifle cartridges to increase accuracy at long range or reduce the pressure on the barrel. However, it’s also occasionally done with handguns, cramming a large bullet into a comparatively small case and then adjusting the amount of powder to give it a more stopping powder. Some wildcat rounds have become so popular that they’re now mass manufactured, and by all accounts these things are terrifyingly powerful for something whipped up in a civilian’s workshop.

    Not that this would save anyone from a 500-pound jungle predator turned urban hunter, mind you. However, never underestimate the ingenuity of the hopelessly paranoid.

  • Lori

    However, never underestimate the ingenuity of the hopelessly paranoid.

    This is so true. Have you seen any of those prepper shows on NatGeo? Those people can be incredibly creative and ingenious. The problem of course is that they’re focusing their ingenuity on plans that are fatally flawed from their inception, so the whole thing is just a ridiculous, wasteful mess. Still, credit where it’s due, some pieces of the mess are very clever.

  • Alix

    I watched one of those shows just to get cooking, gardening, and weatherproofing tips, because a lot of those tips really are good for daily life (esp. if you’re like me and like growing your own veggies and preserving them).

    I had to stop watching the series eventually because the paranoia and the “I’m out for myself, the rest of you losers can suffer” attitudes were getting unbearable.

  • Lori

    I was thinking about this. Have you tried looking for some back to the land hipster sort or a back-in-my-day older person with a YouTube channel? All the tips, none of the paranoia and hatred of their fellow humans. The production values won’t be great, but better poor production than horrible people.

  • Alix

    Ooh, that’s a good idea. I shall have to go poke around.

  • MikeJ

    The Foxfire Book(s)/magazine are what you’re looking for.

    The foundation’s website is foxfire org, and Amazon has the books.

  • Albanaeon

    I keep saying the best survival strategy you can have is supporting civilization.

    It may not be the “macho” option, but sure beats dying of gangrene while being circled by coyotes.

  • MikeJ

    I keep saying the best survival strategy you can have is supporting civilization.Robert Wright wrote in Nonzero,

    One chronicler of Eskimo life has observed, “the
    best place for [an Eskimo] to store his surplus is in someone else’s
    stomach.”…

  • MarkTemporis

    Really not that hard to machine your own ammo. I know at least two people who do it, and I’d really only classify one of them as a ‘gun nut’. As far as feral pigs? A pack of them sounds hard, but the hardcore hunters down here just use trained dogs and a big MF’n knife.

  • Lori

    The dog & big knife guys are hardcore. I know a guy who goes bow hunting for them whenever he visits his family in Texas and that strikes me as a high enough degree of difficulty score.

  • FearlessSon

    My father tells a story of when he was in the navy back in the late fifties, and he and a bunch of other navy guys were having to do rifle drills with M1 Garands under the eyes of a marine drill instructor. After a point, the instructor calls hold fire, everyone stops. He goes and looks at my father’s target, then the two targets beside that one, comparing bullet holes. Asks the guys in the stalls on either side of my dad which targets they are shooting at, then asks my dad the same, confirming that they were all shooting at their assigned targets. Then follows up:

    “You ever been hunting, son?”
    “My dad took me hunting, sir.”
    “Ah, so you have fired a rifle before.”
    “No, sir.”
    “No? Then what the hell did you hunt with?”
    “A bow, sir.”

  • Jamoche

    I used to know a Navy SEAL in Texas whose idea of camping gear was one big knife.

  • FearlessSon
  • MarkTemporis

    Is it strange my ‘gun nut’ friend is a HUGE fan of Venture Bros.?

  • WingedBeast

    With the resurgence of big cat species and the lack of human boundaries upon pigs, that would foresee a spread in wild hogs and, as a result, inevitable wild hog/big cat fights.

    Wild hogs already have survival advantages of being omnivorous, intelligent, and aggressive. But, the inevitable natural selection would favor those that are more intelligent and bigger, which would suggest those that pay for their larger size and larger brains with more meat in their diets.

    So, post apocalyptically, the great danger will not be other human beings. No, the greatest danger will be The War Pigs!

    The comicbook writes itself!

  • Katie

    For an interesting fictional take on this, I suggest the Emberverse series by SM Stirling. Within a few years, tigers are a major problem for Our Heroes.

  • Jenny Islander

    Yes, actually, this was what prompted the thought. For people who haven’t read it, the Emberverse expands on an idea from Fredric Brown’s “The Waveries,” in which the Industrial Age is aborted by something destroying our ability to use electricity. Stirling takes this further: what if our late-’90s civilization was faced with a change in the laws of physics (only on the surface of our world) such that guns wouldn’t bang, pistons hardly pushed, fission didn’t fizz, and metals were no longer conductive? His take on this is much less cozy than Brown’s–he has said that he didn’t use any large cities as a setting because nobody would want to read anything so horrible. The survivors develop all kinds of subcultures; part of the fascination of the series is seeing what they are.

    Stirling used the best population figures he could find to develop his post-TEOTWAWKI ecosystems. According to what he could find, there would be cheetahs, rhinos, lions, and monkeys in the Sun Belt, leopards anywhere with a good water supply, and tigers and wild pigs clear up into the taiga (but no elephants; there weren’t enough breeding populations in North America in the late ’90s). Spain would have herds of giraffes and also groves of redwoods. The South of England would have hippos in the rivers. As somebody in the books says, it’s a weird old world.

    Warning to readers: the later books in the series bring in some ideas about religion that may be offputting to many. Spoilers (go to rot13.com to decipher): Onfvpnyyl, lbh xabj gur fnlvat, “Vs Tbq qvqa’g rkvfg, jr’q unir gb perngr Uvz?” Nppbeqvat gb gur fgbelyvar, gung’f ubj Tbq rkvfgf. Nyy tbqf, va snpg. Nyy eryvtvbaf ner gehr naq nyy nsgreyvirf rkvfg. I end up skimming those parts.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    Something like this also happens in Revolution. In that, though, chemical reactions can still happen, just anything based on actual electricity-electricity can’t happen (which suggests that magnetic fields are what are actually being suppressed somehow).

  • http://shiftercat.livejournal.com/ ShifterCat

    That concept of religion is actually pretty common in fantasy and, occasionally, science fiction. Or at least the “tbqf ner cbjrerq ol oryvrs” idea. It’s been everywhere from Star Trek to American Gods.

  • MikeJ

    “Until marriage, all girls should consider the area from her neck to her knees as ‘no man’s land.’

    Vincent: You know, I’m kinda tired. I could use a foot massage myself.
    Jules: Yo..yo man, you best back off, I’m gittin’ a little pissed here.

  • Panda Rosa

    I’m ashamed to say it, but it took me several minutes to realize the truth about the “Virgins As Role Models For Their Children” one; talk about your Irish Bulls.

  • Kirala

    In fairness, there is no inherent reason a virgin couldn’t be an adoptive parent. But it’s… not the norm. *is now curious whether there ARE any numbers on virgin parents, and if so, whether they sought adoption or landed in situations where they were default guardians*

  • http://www.oliviareviews.com/ PepperjackCandy

    Also sperm and egg donors can be virgins, even though they may not be in their children’s lives.

    And if you are only counting penetrative sex, the OB who delivered my son said once that in his career he has had to cut through more than one hymen at the time of delivery.

  • Lori

    For those needing a palate cleanser after reading that review of Tim LeHaye’s instructional manual for having the sex talk with your kids, here is a nice story about a nice person who did a very nice thing for a kid and his slightly harried parents.This much nice can neutralize a lot of creepy:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-kooiman/the-mystery-man-at-miller_b_3721270.html

  • chgo_liz

    My allergies seem to be kicking in….sniff.

  • Daniel

    AAAARRGHH! I just read that LeHaye review and my…sweet…lord everything about that book is horrible. Gay people learn early on to associate their genitals with sexual pleasure? Somehow God apparently didn’t intend for that to happen… but God doesn’t make mistakes… And women have to keep everything from the neck to the knee as “no man’s land” because they can become so aroused they lose all control? That raises the horrible thought that maybe Timmy is actually a fantastic lover and that his wife actually does lose all control if he so much as strokes her elbow.
    So that story you’ve put the link to was much appreciated.

  • http://anonsam.wordpress.com/ AnonymousSam

    Let me just say that I find it somewhat disturbing how obsessed LaHaye seems to be with women on their periods. Apparently whether or not a girl is on her period should be the central topic of any date, lest unrestrained petting lead to a sexually transmitted disease and loneliness.

  • MarkTemporis

    Dude’s obviously a fan of the thrash metal band Genocide.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6eLxK0G0W0

  • hidden_urchin

    I can think of one type of virgin who would not be a LeHaye approved role model: the asexual person.

  • The_L1985

    Only if that asexual person is male. Women aren’t supposed to want it, you know.

  • spinetingler

    “I believe as many as 80 percent of men in the church are struggling with viewing pornography.”

    Need to update their browsers, apparently.

  • Jamoche

    Probably don’t have the latest antivirus, either.

  • http://anonsam.wordpress.com/ AnonymousSam

    Dennis also called porn addiction to the “new bubonic plague” and
    explained that pornography is “as addictive as crack cocaine.” He said
    that porn is a “weapon” that threatens “husbands, dads, fiancées and
    even church leaders.

    Sometimes a man’s words stand all on their own. If you think he’s coming off as a prick, he’s just trying to get a rise out of you. Dick joke.

  • Anton_Mates

    He wrote a book called Our Hardcore Battle for Wives. Where do you even go from there, comedy-wise?

  • Lori

    Our Hardcore Battle Plan for Wives. Not quite the same thing. Still awful, but a different kind of awful.

  • Anton_Mates

    Ah, the Sentinel dropped a word from the title there. I suppose planning for your hardcore wife battle isn’t as exciting as actually fighting it, but it’s close!

  • Lori

    Either way it sounds like a how-to manual for raping and pillaging, which is more appalling than what it actually is, but mostly because of the violence. (For those who’d rather not look it up, it’s a book telling women what to do when their husbands are looking at too much porn. “Too much” being defined as “any”. Because clearly responsibility for net nannying is part of a wife’s job.)

  • http://www.oliviareviews.com/ PepperjackCandy

    At first I thought you said that the title was Our Hardcore Plan for Battle Wives.

  • http://shiftercat.livejournal.com/ ShifterCat

    I would watch the hell out of that movie.

  • http://rightcrafttool.blogspot.com/ Sign Ahead

    That’s a lot of dog whistles for one little quote:

    “porn addiction” (a scary phrase built on a complete disregard of the DSM)

    “new bubonic plague” (maybe not a dog whistle, but I’m going to allow it based on the terrifying power of the word “plague”)

    “weapons” (because we’re always at war)

    “threaten” (because we need to be afraid)

    “husbands, dads, fiancées” (always fall back on the family)

    and my favorite:

    “crack cocaine” (a deadly cocktail of fear and othering. Consuming porn could endanger your status in the tribe)

  • LoneWolf343

    Speaking as a furry artist, I can tell you that porn addiction is a reality. It’s a trope in the fandom that the quick way to get popularity is to draw a dick.

  • http://anonsam.wordpress.com/ AnonymousSam

    I know another furry artist who’s complained that he very much does not want to wind up drawing porn, but if the e-mails he gets are any indication, that’s what he’ll have to do if he ever wants to make any money.
    For my part, I’ve been told by a few people that if I really want money, I need to write erotica. I do write erotica (or rather, I acknowledge that sexuality happens with most people and I occasionally depict such incidents), but I damn sure don’t feel like writing it on demand.

  • LoneWolf343

    I’ve done some fetish work, myself, on demand. I only know of a few artists who have any clout without resorting to porn, and many good artists are outright ignored because of it.

  • gpike

    When I drew furry art people didn’t ask me to draw porn (like, maybe once or twice they asked whether I drew adult art but never anything specific) – but then I don’t have a “typical” furry art style so maybe I just don’t attract those type of people??? However, it was awkward for baby, sex-negative me because furry OC descriptions are generally written in a way that’s geared for adult art so I wound up having to read a LOT of TMI in character descriptions.

    To this day I don’t understand why furry subculture is so fetish-oriented. I love cartoons and animals but I can’t really fit in with some furries because… Well honestly, I like ALL kinds of cartoons and all kinds of REAL animals, not just cartoon animals. A lot of furries are really missing out on some great stuff (like, for instance, really good webcomics *COUGH*) because their scope of interest is so limited.

    In the genre I’m in now, adult art is not a requirement, it’s FANART of popular media that gets you the attention… And unfortunately for me I’m not very motivated to draw fanart. :

  • http://anonsam.wordpress.com/ AnonymousSam

    I’ve always chalked it up to role-playing being rather fetish-oriented (or at least prone to attracting such) and a lot of furry subculture taking place in role-playing environments. It does kind of weird me out how a lot of furry venues I’ve visited made a point to get the fetish right out front — when I participated in FurryMUCK, character profiles had a specific section for sexual concepts the player was okay with.

    I… didn’t last long in that venue, after having a character nearly sexually assaulted against _my_ will. That was just bloody disturbing on so many levels.

  • JustoneK

    In my experience it had a lot to do with being the lowest totem on the geek pole for a very long time – doesn’t matter how much of a freak other people tell you you are, join the furry fandom, we’ll accept you!

    (Caveat: I am not a furry, but I have seen a lot of fandom and a LOT of the art. I can’t identify with just one animal because I LOVE ALL THE ANIMALS.)

  • http://anonsam.wordpress.com/ AnonymousSam

    Not the lowest! There’s always the Star Trek furry erotica writers with self-insert author avatars. http://brunching.com/images/geekchart2.gif

  • JustoneK

    “But what’s being inserted?”

    but that’s exactly what I mean thar. it’s a combination that’s the bottom of the furry barrel because they allowed everyone in. :P

    (am now thinking of juggalo social markers and restrictions.)

  • LoneWolf343

    Especially fanart that is also porn.

    Yeah, I’ve done “fanart,” and it gets more attention than my regular stuff. I’ve even pulled some pieces for getting too much attention.

    As for the obsession with fetishism, I would say it is a mixture of subcultural acceptance, and freedom from consequences. A friend of mine went into great detail the other day about how a lot of work a simple BSDM session is. Reality has a dampening effect on sex drives better than any cold shower. It is similar to why Skyrim is infinitely more fun than actually living in the Middle Ages.

  • MuseofIre

    I can’t with this woman Marsha Blackburn. I mean, of all the things to wax faux-indignant about, ceiling fans? “They’re coming after our ceiling fans? What’s next, riding lawnmowers? Is nothing sacred in this country any more?”

  • Ross Thompson

    She somehow neglects to point out that she voted for these regulations back in the day. So she’s the they that’s coming for them.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    I wonder if anyone has pointed that out to her yet.

  • LoneWolf343

    She knows. She just hopes her constituents don’t.

  • banancat

    I’m not suprised but I am disappointed that LaHaye’s book is pushing the myth that PMS happens during menstruation, and also that it’s universal to all women and that all women have mood swings as the primary symptom. I guess he doesn’t know what the “P” stands for, because that should be a pretty clear indicator that he’s wrong. If women are acting angrily during menstruation, it’s probably as a result of him being especially condescending during that time.

    However, I was surprised in a good way that at least he understands the importance of the clitoris. I really thought he would have no idea about that.

  • Hilary

    Those tiger cubs are insanely cute.

    Tiger, tiger, burning bright
    In the forests of the night
    What immortal hand or eye
    Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?

  • Amaryllis

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