ringing in the new year and other depressing observations made from a night club…

… When they say time flies, they weren’t kidding. The older I get the quicker it whizzes by so another year passing is no longer this monumental thing I celebrate. I also gave up making resolutions several years ago as a past New Year’s resolution. If I screw up I examine my conscience and make my way to confession. That’s my new beginning. I don’t wait till the end of the year to end vices and practice new virtues.

Oh, and the drunken debauchery… I never got that either. I thought New year’s was supposed to be a time for fresh starts. Nothing says “fresh start” like waking up January 1st hung over, covered in vomit and sporting a new STD.

Since becoming a mom, New Year’s Eve is usually spent with family or a small group of friends who have kids too. We keep things fairly tame with a libation or two or three – just enough to make you feel warm and happy.

This year; however, I decided to break away from my typical revelries and join a friend at a local club in Charlotte. I must say not much has changed in the past decade in the way of drunken whoring.

Mocking drunk people is fun… for the first hour maybe. Then it becomes a sad scene to behold. With sober clarity I watched young girls get incoherently intoxicated and allow themselves the uninhibited freedom to behave like sluts.

My girlfriend jokingly wondered aloud how many babies were going to be born this coming September. Then we both fell gravely silent. Surveying the scene around us, we both knew the type of girl to get pregnant from a drunken encounter met in a night club would be more likely to end up in the waiting room of the local abortion mill come February. I was suddenly very much over the night.

God, I hate feminism. The feminism those girls were celebrating was the kind that would rob them of their fresh faced youth and transform them into bitter shrews. It was going to age them well beyond their years and ruin their future relationships. The only people reaping the fruits of their sexual liberation promiscuity were the men those girls were making themselves readily available for. The real victims of modern feminism are women and their aborted children who result from these types of meaningless sexual encounters.

These were my observations as I rang in another year [I'm a real hoot at parties]. If I resolve to do anything this year, I plan to spend a great deal of time writing to debunk the myth of feminism and the idea of consequence free sex. I’m going to say things I’ve held in for quite some time and probably piss a few people off in the process – so strong is my loathing of feminism and abortion.

So there. Happy New Year. Don’t be a whore and no one gets hurt.

Related Links: Dear Katy Perry, it’s time to come home, and From the Desk of the Slutty Slut Shamer.

About Katrina Fernandez

Mackerel Snapping Papist

  • http://twitter.com/emvidal Elena Maria Vidal

    I so agree!

  • Camille Mittermeier

    I stand arm in arm with you.  As I said at Mary’s Corner, the last century was hardly supportive of motherhood.

  • Helene E. Wood

    I’m definitely going to stay subscribed to your blog.  This is gonna be lots of fun!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/stephanie.a.richer Stephanie A. Richer

    Tell you what, Kat.  I’m going through a process where I am getting pretty fucking FED UP by sin and people making lame ass excuses as to why they remain in it, especially when they are in a position where they’re supposed to be HELPING others lame ass excuse makers rid themelves of their sin.

    So . . . I am with you, my dear.  Seriously, I’m not going to start holy-rolling that the wages of sin are death, but I think it’s time for us mackerel snappers to show some people some tough love AND kick the shit out of the Devil.  After all, we’re the ones best equipped for the job.

    • kenneth

      There’s one critical flaw in your plan: The Devil is a serious BDSM freak, and the prospect of a beat-down by a hard-edge Christian woman who swears like a sailor would only encourage him to new heights of accomplishment!

  • kenneth

    My god but you’re morose these days. Your mind draws a straight line between a New Year’s Eve party and the abortion mill. Col. Kurtz from Apocalypse Now was a pile of giggles compared to you! If it will put your mind at ease (it surely won’t), I can tell you that most of my friends and associates are promiscuous to a degree that would make the  women you saw look like Dominican Sisters.

     I won’t say they never have problems, but widespread abortion is not one of them.  Most of these women are very well prepared with artificial birth control, including tubal ligations after they have had their children. It is my experience that very, very few of them end up with unwanted pregnancies that they terminate. The ones found at the abortion clinic are more often younger women who never give themselves permission to cut loose and so when the inevitable slip happens, they’re totally unprepared. 

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

      Do you suppose if your friends or co-workers had abortions they would be bragging about it? Just because it’s never been confided to you doesn’t mean they haven’t. Promiscuity is often used to cope with feelings of self worthlessness brought about by post abortive trauma. It’s a vicious cycle. 

      I think someone isn’t being forthright. 

      • kenneth

        Of course I may not know everything that goes on in their lives, but I’m pretty tight with many of them and they do share a lot with me. I do know of one or two abortions among them. From what I’ve seen, they are consistent with what I said earlier. They tended to have happened early in their lives, at time periods when they were not really promiscuous. Some seem to have regretted the decision. Others not so much. All I’m saying is that abortion is a much more complex phenomenon than promiscuity. It happens a lot even among women who are otherwise devout Catholics or Christians and even those who forswear sex until marriage and (mostly) stick by that. There was an awful lot of abortion going on even in the decades before Roe, when we were supposedly a morally upright society.

        • pol

          Amen to all that.  As a court staffer many years ago, I learned about a local doctor who performed “d&c’s” regularly and was never bothered all the while abortion was illegal.  My first wife had an illgeal abortion after she was violently raped  while a college freshman in Michigan in 1970.  We were married for 12 years, but I can tell you that emtionally, she never really fully recovered from the rape and eventually it caught up with her and she left. She  also was NOT promiscuous, either and her parents didn’t learna about any of this until a year after she elft me.
          Oh, and by the way, abortion was legal in Puerto Rico or so I learned recently, at least as far back as 1961, perhaps earlier,  and so a number of wealthy women  went went there on “vacation”.   Like the song says, “It’s money that matters”.

          I also wish these poster would STOP blaming feminists.  Better the upfront femininist that tells you upfront what she really thinks than the, female misogyinist I later married after her brilliant “bait and switch” campaign. 

          Now, like the song from the “Music Man” says: “the sadder but wiser girl for me”.  She KNOWS the way things REALLY  are.

    • http://tonylayne.blogspot.com/ Anthony S. Layne

      Actually, the Guttmacher Institute admitted not too long ago that over half the women who have abortions were on the Pill when they got pregnant.  “Risk compensation behavior” is what it’s called: the woman tells herself that she’s protected and therefore can’t get pregnant, so she increases her odds of being one of the 1% by having sex more frequently.  All I can say about your friends and associates is, they’re lucky.

    • http://www.gardenofholiness.blogspot.com/ Christie @ Garden of Holiness

      Kenneth, being a male, you’ve probably never had the privilege of talking a girlfriend out of suicide because some guy treated her like a disposable condom after she offered herself up like a side dish because everybody knows that’s just what you do. You really seem to have no idea. None. 

      Stunning, really.

      • kenneth

        I’ve been down that very road at least as many times as you. Men get that way too, believe it or not, and women sometimes dish that out. Nobody ever said life was simple. 

        For me, the bottom line is you have to decide what you want out of life and what you are willing to put up with.  If you don’t have the emotional make-up for promiscuity, don’t do it, and don’t put up with it. If you are oriented that way, as many of us are, be honest with other people. Don’t promise a lifetime commitment or proclaim true love if you’re not sincere. That seems reasonable, doesn’t it? 

        • http://www.gardenofholiness.blogspot.com/ Christie @ Garden of Holiness

          Been there, done that. You’re still being there and doing that. Maybe you should take a moment, step outside, and connect the dots. Don’t worry if you can’t. Society can’t seem to connect those dots either.

  • Lydiamcgrew

    Preach it, sista! I know that we should tell people not to be promiscuous because it’s _wrong_, but the fact is that this particular type of wrong is so obviously and intimately bound up with God’s plan for mankind that messing up in this way has totally _devastating_  consequences, and it cannot be wrong to point that out. I was recently having a debate on the group blog I write for with a commentator over the question of whether it’s a good idea to vaccinate widely and routinely, at age 12 or so, for a particular STD given that one knows that making that routine in that way will probably increase sexual promiscuity by sending young people a particular message. Unlike liberals, he admitted that it _would_ have that effect but said it was worth it to decrease the incidence of that particular STD. What astounded me about this was that he couldn’t see what an un-obvious conclusion that was *even from a utilitarian point of view*. After all, what about all the _other_ STDs that would be increased by increased promiscuity? What about the broken hearts, the teen pregnancies, the hardened emotions, the human misery? I don’t know why we’re supposed to set the purely moral consideration aside, but even if we did, you just can’t (no pun intended) divorce this particular sin from all its myriad horrible consequences, of which one particular STD is…well…just one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mary-Emily-Scallon/1346107332 Mary Emily Scallon

    Going to needle point that on a pillow? “Don’t be a slut, and no one gets hurt.” Funny blog — thanks!

  • Anonymous

    PREACH, SISTAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • robertgwirth

    I formed the conclusion about 30+ years ago that misused sex is probably responsible for more human misery than anything.

  • Kimlcarroll

    you go, Kat.  and I’m letting my teen girl read it all.  Might as well get it from you rather than peers “educated” on birth control by the likes of your commenter, Kenneth. 
    I tell my girls all the time to forget happiness if they think drugging themselves up to suppress their fertility so they can be sexually available 24-7 is “responsible” and joyful living. (anyone else notice it’s not living up to its promise?) 
    I know my girls are totally worth husbands who have virtue, self-control, and love women and children…like my Catholic hubby who practices  NFP with me.  Not easy.  totally worth it. 
    I hope my girls avoid the Kenneths like the plague. Contraception is the root of abortion, and it’s no secret that Planned Parenthood passes ;ills  out with one hand and aborts with the other.  Kenneth’s message about birth control is a siren’s song with decreasing credibility.  It’s tarnished, dated, and deserves to be buried…unlike the babies… 

    • kenneth

      “Avoid the Kenneths like the plague.” I rather relish that imagery. I, the Fourth Horseman…”there before me was a pale horse, and it’s rider was named Kenneth, and Hades was following close behind him.” 

       It has a certain amount of Heavy Metal pizzaz, moreso than the pedestrian reality of a middle-aged Charlie Sheen wannabe…  At any rate your daughters need fear nothing. I steer well away from teens of any kind. They’re too much drama and even at 41, I’m too pretty to survive prison. 

      I also tend to favor the cougars, and so that’s another reason my own personal road to perdition does not lead to the abortion mill. Our respective roads will remain ever divergent. I have my own traveling companions and you have yours, and that is the pure genius of this boisterous little society of ours….

      • Seraphic

        Dang. Any cougar who goes after a guy over 40 is not worthy of her leopard-spotted clutch purse. Lightweights!

        P.S. Kenneth, they’re not cougars any more. They’re your peers. 

        • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

          “Kenneth, they’re not cougars any more. They’re your peers”
          Zing! Gotta love, Mrs. Seraphic. 

          • Seraphic

            @Kat. :-D

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.algarme Michael Algarme

            I posted my own reply to Kenneth.  But actually Kat, the more I think about it, the more I believe it’s rather plausible, that ol’ Kenneth here is actually a pimply nerd typing away at his keyboard and playing “Dungeons and Dragons” type role playing games when he isn’t watching  pornography in his mother’s basement.  LOL

        • Kim Vandapool

          Hehe, yeah – a “cougar” going for a 41 yr old has to be, like what, 70?? No birth control needed there, eh. Just eww.

          • kenneth

            Hey now, I once had a thing with a 73 year old woman, the matron of all cougars. A magnificent woman and person in every respect! Women in their mid to late 50s are actually my overall favorites. 

            The precise definition of cougar is somewhat controversial. I tend to hold that it implies an age difference of a decade, give or take.  As for why cougars “settle” for a solidly middle aged guy like me, I can’t say for sure, but I’m grateful. It may be a good set of trade-offs for them. I can easily pass for a guy 10 years my junior, and I’m in better shape than a lot of 20-somethings these days.

            I also bring a certain degree of maturity that they seem to appreciate. I can look them in the eye and hold an intelligent conversation and they know I’m not going to blow off a date with them to get stoned with my buddies playing online war games all night. 

            Still, I must concede the possibility that they’re simply lowering their standards. At the end of the day, it’s like gravity. I don’t need to know why it works as long as it keeps working! 

      • Kimlcarrolll

        totally cool, kenneth… as long as my girls avoid you… romantically speaking… they will, I am sure, be able to match you wit-wise, language-wise, intellect-wise, and adventure-wise.  They are all that, and they will intrigue many a man.   My hope is that they will give heart, soul, and body only to a man wise enough to follow Christ and his Pope’s teaching.  It’s all about eternity… 

  • Anonymous

    That last line me laugh!!

  • http://sainteasy.blogspot.com/ Paige Deaner

    Woman Catholic Bad-assery FTW!

  • craltieri47

    Kat Crescat, Catholic curmudgeon!

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

      You know it.  Though I’m a pussy cat in person, right? 

      • craltieri47

        A real charmer!

  • craltieri47

    I’m having business cards made for you: “Kat Crescat, Catholic curmudgeon.”

  • http://charmingdisarray.blogspot.com/ Io

    I don’t understand the connection between feminism and drunken debauchery on New Year’s Eve. You jumped from talking about one to talking about the other with no explanation why. Plenty of women who are feminists would not get drunk on New Year’s and plenty of women who get drunk on New Year’s are not feminists. I’m not defending one or the other but I don’t see the connection you’re making. 

    And why are you only complaining about drunken women? Surely there were just as many drunken men there? Are the drunken men feminists, too?

    • kenneth

      The eco-system you allude to is even more complex, I’m afraid.  There ARE drunken male feminists, and drunken female misogynists, and drunken chaste and celibate folks. For that matter, there are more than a few stone-cold sober slutty folks too! This whole field of bio-sociology is wide open for enterprising researchers and mis-spenders of federal research grants. Someone ought to settle in and organize this rabble using a Linnaeus like system of descriptive taxonomy, complete with flowery Latin names, to keep it all straight! 

      • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

        I’d apply for that job. Hell, I’d sign up to be a research participant. The drunken celibate of course. 

  • Anonymous

    Faux Feminism has beaten the crap out of men too, as you have written before in your articles about the modern shrew. Sometimes I am in sad awe if the devil’s ability to coax us into taking a moral good, like giving women equality under the law, and twisting it into a nightmare of lies and self destruction. Let us all fight for human dignity without deifying and vilifying anyone in the process. Should be easy enough….

  • Rob Kaiser

    Btw, this destroys the men too.

  • Charles Lincoln

    While the situation you describe is probably true of certain individuals, you go too far in ascribing the basest motivations and behaviors to a whole crowd of people whom you do not know. Did you follow every person home to observe their actual behavior, or did you let your imagination run wild as to who did what with whom? When I was young and single, I frequently went out with friends to bars and clubs, often late into the night and more than a few times staggered home. Yet I was never looking to hook up or score or whatever you call it. Drinking, dancing, and even flirting do not necessarily qualify one as a “slut.” Regarding the two young women you photographed: do you have their permission to publish this photo? If you don’t, I ask that you remove it immediately. Having their picture associated with your opinionated piece on “drunken whoring” is a violation of charity. 

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

      Untwist your knickers. It’s a stock photo. I purposely did not describe some of the behavior I observed bc it was lascivious and elaborating may be a near occasion of sin. It was pornographic, let’s leave it at that. 

      And any woman who behaves like that is a exhibiting slutty behaviour. Period.  

      • Charles Lincoln

        Stock or not, the photo is of two real young women whom you are blindly judging as sluts and drunken whores. Do as you like, but I suggest you remove this photo. 

        Perhaps rather than blogging to pass judgment on others you could use that energy to pray for them. The tone of your piece is condescending and uncharitable. Please review Our Lord’s teaching on passing judgment on others and reconsider the tone of this posting.

        Peace.

        • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

          Perhaps you feel no need to denounce  promiscuity and abortion and false feminist doctrine, but I think these are grave evils that call for stern words not warm and fuzzing banter. Redirect your righteous indignation elsewhere.  

          • Charles Lincoln

            If I had a photo of you on your worst day, perhaps in a moment of weakness, I would not post it on a blog and call you derogatory names. Denouncing promiscuity is a good end, but it does not justify your uncharitable means of getting there. As much as I admire your other writing, you are in the wrong on this one.

            OK, I’ve thrown in my two cents. May God bless you, me, and especially the two women in the photo.

          • http://charmingdisarray.blogspot.com/ Io

            Well said, Charles Lincoln. And there’s no good explanation of why it’s only the women in this scenario who are at fault. Surely there were men involved, too? Somehow they don’t get a  mention.

          • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

            I don’t write from the perspective of a man because I am not one. We, women, set the standard for how we want to be treated. If we don’t want to be treated like whores it stands to reason that we must not act like one. If a man wants to write about drunken male debauchery the more power to him.  I welcome you both to write about it on your own blogs. 

          • http://charmingdisarray.blogspot.com/ Io

            It’s also up to women to set the standard for how we expect men to act and not just blame women for the problems we see. Maybe I will blog about it….

          • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

            If you don’t mind, please link your post back here. I’d love to read your thoughts on the matter. 

    • http://twitter.com/espressobean21 Sarah Martinez

      I didn’t much like this post of Katrina’s at all, and, like someone mentioned below, her focus on women’s behavior only.   I think name-calling should be below every good Catholic, and beyond that, no one should ever call a person a whore.  No one knows the state of another person’s soul. Further, I don’t think this kind of attitude wins anyone over. I was talking to my priest recently about the importance of being beacons of light through our example, and always using charity.

      We can denounce third-wave feminism (trust me, I hate it, too), but I can’t imagine Our Lady calling anyone a whore. But I will let you let you in on some facts about photo publishing, Charles. 

      When I was an art student studying photography, a whole portion of one semester was devoted to knowing our legal rights.  Turns out, you have every right to photograph and publish a person you see in a public place.  Once the photo’s snapped, the image is your property. 

      Also, this is a stock photo.  Often stock photos are taken using models and actresses. Either way, Katrina has every right to leave the picture up.

  • doughboy

    rock on, sister soldier!

    • tj.nelson

      sister soldier.  eye roll.

  • Kim Vandapool

    Thanks for writing this, Kat! One thing that always disgusts me, yet never surprises me, is when the men come out of the woodwork to denounce the shaming of women like these or promiscuity in general. After all, men have been the sole benefactors of this behavior – and in their transparent contempt for women, continue to lead the charge for “choice” under the guise of advancing women’s rights. I don’t believe these types of men are the unwitting victims of feminism that we might at fist mistake them for.

  • tj.nelson

    Nice language here. 

  • http://charmingdisarray.blogspot.com/ Io

    As requested, here are my thoughts on this contentious topic: 
    http://charmingdisarray.blogspot.com/2012/01/just-give-feminism-thing-rest-already.html

    • http://twitter.com/espressobean21 Sarah Martinez

      Io, I think we need to be friends. Like, now. I’m serious. I’ve never met another trad girl who’s said so well what I’ve been thinking for years.

      I am a Latin-Mass going girl, and I love the Traditional Faith.  But you are so right that at the hands of other Traditional Catholics, women are expected to carry the burden of the entire Western Culture.  The amount of bulls**t I have had to endure at the hands of young, Catholic men who almost ruined my reputation for doing nothing more sinister than being heartbroken when a boy I liked joined the seminary is something I will probably never get over.  

      Once, my spiritual director (who is a fantastic man, and who can talk about menstruation without flinching, and with whom the only criticism I’ve ever had of him has been in the following story…) told me women are the backbone to a chaste relationship because they are “stronger.”  Now, I don’t know if that’s strictly true.  But even if it is, what it sounds like to me is an excuse for men to slack off.  
      I do know a small group of shrieking feminists who have a serious knack for having standards to which the hold men, and do not hold for themselves. (Check out Jezebel.com or TheFrisky.com to see for yourself.)  But this is a small, small minority.

      • http://charmingdisarray.blogspot.com/ Io

        Wow, I’m so sorry that happened to you, but sadly I’ve seen those attitudes before. Do you have a blog or anything? 

        • Sarah Martinez.

          Eh. Not that I post on regularly. I’m going to be starting a new one to chronicle a move to another country later on this month, or early next. I’ll put a link in your comment section when it’s up. :)

      • pol

        baloney!

  • http://www.facebook.com/lisaannhomic Lisa Ann Homic

    Adding you to my google blog reader,  thanks

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.algarme Michael Algarme

    Wow, I’m sorry I didn’t get to reading this one earlier.  It sure has started a lot of chatter.  I’m with Katrina on this one.  Coming from a man’s perspective, we’re hard wired for bad sexual behavior.  We have a responsibility to do battle with our hard wired nature.  I was in attendance at a Christmas party hosted at a local Catholic parish by a “Catholic” singles group.  I wanted to knock a few men on their @$$ for they way they were treating the women on the dance floor, one woman in particular.  The problem was this one woman in particular was not hating the lecherous behavior but participating.  I left the party early in disgust.  We as men must behave in a way so as not to treat women as sex objects, nothing more than blow up dolls.  I’m not perfect at this battle that I have to wage on my very own nature, myself.  I thank God for the Grace of having a chapel at O’Hare Airport in Chicago and a Catholic Priest to whom I could make my confession before I flew home to California.  That’s all I’ll say about that.

    However, I have worked for a variety of contract private security firms.  For 11 years I worked for an event security company and worked at every concert from Marylin Manson, Ozzy Osborne, Social Distortion, Rage Against the Machine, Rap, Pop, Rolling Stones, Eagles, and the list goes on down to the Pacific Symphony Orchestra.  I have been a bouncer at a commercial chain of restaurant/bars for another company.  In those years, I have seen the worst kind of debauchery, public nudity and coitus.  It was at a Sting concert I had a woman glued to me, whom I could not dislodge, bumping and grinding on me, dry humping ME.  I did nothing to encourage her or invite the behavior.  It was a female co-worker who relieved me for a break and got rid of her, after I went to the restroom, splashed some cold water on my face and said some quick, fervent prayers.  I’ve been accosted at bars, working as a bouncer.  I have been embarrassed and kissed by women who are total strangers.  Believe, me I am no hunk.  I’m 5’6 over weight, and not uber-handsome.  But that didn’t matter to many of these drunken women, (and one drunken gay man who tried to kiss my hand when I put my hand out to shake his hand, I coiled up my fist, but didn’t hit him.  I kicked him out.)

    @twitter-298101620:disqus your Spiritual director was right.  Women do not bear all the responsibility.  As I’ve said men have a grave responsibility to do battle with this part of our nature.  But it is a very real weakness in us, and women have a grave responsibility not to exploit this weakness in us by the kind of behavior I’ve described above. 

    Saint John Chrysostom

    Saint John Chrysostom instructed women of all times about dress when in the fourth century he declared:

    “You
    carry your snare everywhere and spread your nets in all places. You
    allege that you never invited others to sin. You did not, indeed, by
    your words, but you have done so by your dress and your deportment. …
    When you have made another sin in his heart, how can you be innocent?
    Tell me, whom does this world condemn? Whom do judges punish? Those who
    drink poison or those who prepare it and administer the fatal potion?
    You have prepared the abominable cup, you have given the death dealing
    drink, and you are more criminal than are those who poison the body; you
    murder not the body but the soul. And it is not to enemies you do this,
    nor are you urged on by any imaginary necessity, nor provoked by
    injury, but out of foolish vanity and pride.”

    And as for Charles Lincoln, and Kenneth I would give Katrina this advise from Scripture.  Matthew.7: [6] “Do not give dogs what is holy; and do not throw your
    pearls before swine, lest they trample them under foot and turn to
    attack you.”
     

    • kenneth

      Indeed
      save your pearls. I have no need of them. If I trample them, it is because they
      are no more sacred to me than the Earth itself, which is supremely sacred. I
      don’t normally attack, but I get a bit defensive when people demean slutty
      women. 

       

      Such
      women are my sheet anchor, my heart of oak, my Lapis Philosophorum, the Higgs
      Boson which gives order and confirmation to my universe.  They are both
      the melange and water of my Arrakis, my Alpha and my Omega, the perfect sunset
      off Negril.  They are my oxygen, the electron receptor and linchpin of my
      cellular respiration!

       

      You and
      the saint decry these Scarlet Women as harpies and poisoners, picking off only
      the weak and unwary. Yet I drink freely and knowingly from their chalices. Like
      oxygen it is the deadliest of poisons and yet indispensable to life.  I am
      reborn even as I die. They are my cauldron of transformation, the destroyer and
      gateway to rebirth. My Cerridwen. 

       

      I leave
      you to live as you will. Live in chastity, if it gives your soul comfort. But
      these women you cast off as drabs, as trollops and jades, I will regard as my
      queens. I will cherish and honor them and serve them as King, Knight or
      Servant, as they will have me! 

       

      • http://www.facebook.com/michael.algarme Michael Algarme

        Kenneth,

        Jesus in the Scripture is advising the faithful exactly what you said, to save our pearls.  You wax poetically, but in vain.  I see right through you.  You use these words to cover up your misery.  You may not have realized you are rotting inside, so you may disagree with my insight.  But I pray someday you might make such discovery and convert before it’s too late.  Everything you have described rings hollow to me, quite empty.  All of that which you revel in, is temporary and fleeting.  Myself, I long for the eternal.

        In the end your words remind me of these from Gen.3 [9)] “. . .you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”

        Your musings has the overtones of atheism.  Even the famous Dr. Richard Dawkins, in an interview with documentary film maker Ben Stein, had to admit that he did not know the origin of life.  He could only come up with some imbecilic blather about space alien insemination.  So do you believe you are the product of space alien seed?  Other “scientists” have suggested some kind of idea of countless parallel universes which operate under different rules than our own, therefore unobservable and unprovable.  Which explains life in our universe how?  What empty life you must lead, Kenneth.  In the end it all comes back to this Scripture.  Gen.3 [9)] “. . .you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”

        Have a look at this video, Kennith.  http://www.prageruniversity.com/Religion-Philosophy/The-Four-Big-Bangs.html

        • kenneth

          Yes, I’m absolutely miserable! :) And no doubt you’re offering salvation, for the low price of surrendering my brain, my spirit and a sizable portion of my net worth! Well, go ahead, put in your bid with the other Licensed Retailers of Salvation, but the stack of proposals is quite high…

          Me, an atheist? I’m pagan. Pagan as a Christmas tree! I live for this life as well as my future lives, if any, all in their due course. Despite rumors to the contrary, we do have a rather deep system of ethics, and we are not nihilists in any way. It’s just that we don’t have any of the angst about sexuality that Christians do.  We just simply don’t have the theological or mental hardwiring to get all twisted up about that aspect of human existence, and we’re not in the market to acquire any. 

          The creation issue is an interesting discussion in its own right. I think Genesis, made-by-the hand of God personally creationism is pure bunk. The inception and evolution of life requires nothing more (or less) profound than the physical laws of our universe. Life is an inherent property and inevitable result of the right elements and conditions. That, however, in no way precludes divine involvement. It’s quite possible that some forethought went into the fundamental laws that make this happen – the mass of hydrogen, the chemical properties of carbon, the balance and nature of certain subatomic particles, etc. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.algarme Michael Algarme

            Kenneth,

            At least you admit your emptiness even if glibly.  In your reaction for which I reply, you bounce around from a 20th century novel series, “Dune”, to modern electrical science, the ancient Greek alphabet, to a beach in Jamaica, to a Welsh medieval legend, where apparently you need to be totally swallowed up by her to be reborn.

            I, myself was reborn in the waters of Baptism, and thus share in His death and Resurrection.   I am a coheir to the Kingdom of God Almighty, a Priest and a Prophet.  Your pagan, new age gobbledygook, does not even compare, not even close.  My reality overshadows your fantasy any day.  I cannot “offer” you Salvation as such.  I can only light the way as the lamp did in “Chronicles of Narnia, The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.”  Should you choose not to follow the light that is your affair, between you and God.  God will never force you.  What you fail to realize is that you are more ensnared and enslaved than you know.  Surrender to the God of the Universe is freedom without measure.

            Matthew.11 [29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.  [30] For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

    • http://charmingdisarray.blogspot.com/ Io

      It sounds like from your post women are ALSO hardwired for bad sexual behavior. Why is it that if a woman acts slutty it must be only because she’s trying to make a man sin, too? Maybe she’s just sinning because she’s sinful. Why is that when this topic comes up, people always find a way to make it look like women are bringing men down on purpose? Everyone needs to take responsibility for their own vices. There were men committing sins in those nightclubs and there were women committing sins. No need to make it more complicated than that.

      If you saw men treating women disrespectfully, why didn’t you do anything about it, instead of just thinking about it? Maybe if you had gone up to them and said something it would have been a good example for both the men and women there.

      • http://www.facebook.com/michael.algarme Michael Algarme

        Actually Io, I believe women are not so hardwired.  However when they get snared in modern feminism, they begin to learn the behaviors of lecherous men.  And I’m not sure in what circumstance which I describe, where you ask why I didn’t do anything when I saw men treating women disrespectfully.  I presume you are referring to the “Catholic” singles Christmas party I recently attended.  I didn’t share that part in my comment.  But I did!  I physically intervened a number of times, cutting in, disguising my Karate techniques as dance moves, although not very well because I was pissed.  (I am a 3rd Degree Black Belt)  And as I was leaving I crossed paths with one of the jerks, grabbed his arm and told him off!  For this I was exiled from the group by the spineless “leadership” for being too “aggressive”.  They didn’t come to me in person, to ask me my side of the story.  Instead the discussed it as though some kind of star chamber court from on high, and passed judgement upon me.

        You give me the impression Io that you may be trying to dilute or diffuse the culpability of “slutty” women.  I say both parties are equally culpable, but this blog entry by Katrina was about women.  Furthermore, I did state that in my original comment.  I said that men have a very grave responsibility not to treat women as sex objects.  But I also, (and I hope you would agree Io) that women have grave responsibility not to invite such behavior.  Notice this snippet from the quote of Saint John Chrysostom.  “You
        allege that you never invited others to sin. You did not, indeed, by
        your words, but you have done so by your dress and your deportment. …”  These are not my words but those of a Saint.  If you have a problem with his words, I suggest you pray and take it up with him.   

        • http://charmingdisarray.blogspot.com/ Io


          Actually Io, I believe women are not so hardwired.  However when they get snared in modern feminism, they begin to learn the behaviors of lecherous men.”

          And you know this, how? I believe that some women are predisposed towards sluttiness–just like some women are predisposed towards laziness, selfishness, or any other vice. Sluttiness goes back much farther than feminism–ever hear of the oldest profession in the world? And some men struggle with this vice more than other men. This is what human beings are like. Slutty women have always been around and always will be around–just stay away from them. They aren’t victims. They’re sinners. Men who are manwhores are also not victims. How about we just say all impurity is wrong, destructive to society, and selfish, without trying to make it look like one gender has more responsibility to fix this problem than the other? 

          But I suppose you think all women are exactly the same and have the exact temptations and the exact same innate desire for goodness and virtue. You’re wrong about this.

          Generally, although perhaps not always, when you see a man claiming that men are hardwired towards impurity, it’s just their way of excusing themselves from being responsible for their own struggles against temptation. And when inconveniently faced with the reality that in fact some women also struggle with lust, or maybe don’t even try not to give into it, they convince themselves that those women are “acting against their nature” or, even better, trying to ensnare men.

          • kenneth

            All of the sweeping generalizations about women in this discussion really arise from two sources. One, the old Hellenistic/Paulist notions of women as physically, mentally and spiritually deficient beings. In that model, women are proposed to be driven by their baser instincts and less equipped to resist temptation. 

            The opposite pole of this strange dualism derives from Victorian ideals of women as pure, innocent, asexual beings. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.algarme Michael Algarme

            Well Io,

            It seems my reverence for women is something different from yours.  And contrary to what your modern university professors taught you, men and women ARE different.  We have different roles to play in life and we are wired differently.  I think a lot of this “sluttiness” is forced and infused upon the female gender by modern society.  I think a lot of it came about in the 1960s.  It also came about as a result of 20th Century secular, Marxist theory put into practice.  After all the Winter Palace of the Russian Czar was only defended by a women’s brigade and military cadets in the storming of the palace by the Bolsheviks in 1917.   It seems that kind of thinking, albeit the enemy that took them down, crept into the thinking and governance of the Russian Royal Family.  It’s so sad because Lenin and then Stalin et al. . . murdered MILLIONS, far more than Hitler was able.  But I digress.

            I can’t imagine why you’re arguing for an equal share and blame in a particular sin.  I have a college degree in Criminal Justice/Law Enforcement.  I know in the here and now, “the oldest profession in the world” is not what you think it is.  The average street prostitute is almost 100% of the time indentured to her pip.  She has not riches, because she gives it all to her pimp.  If she tries to leave, he’ll beat her up or kill her.  It has more to do with human trafficking than female “sluttines” I assure you.  And what makes you think it was any different in the annals of history?  I’d venture a guess that 99.99% of female prostitutes were forced, sold, or hijacked into it from the beginning of history.

            That being said, the words of Saint John Chrysostom still ring true.  You know what to do if you differ with him.  Pray to him and ask.  Discuss it with him.  Jesus said “I am the vine and you are the branches.”  Go to the Blessed Sacrament and ask Jesus to help you to communicate with Saint John Chrysostom.  See what he has to say about it.

            http://www.prageruniversity.com/Life-Studies/Men-and-the-Power-of-the-Visual.html

          • http://charmingdisarray.blogspot.com/ Io

            What on earth you could possibly know about my professors or what they’ve taught me? Can we stick to the topic instead of retreating into fantasies? Thanks.

            I don’t doubt that what you’re saying about prostitution is true, nor did I intend to imply that there was something glamorous about it. The point I’m trying to make, which you are obtusely ignoring, is that women are different from each other. Some are slutty. Some are not. And although I can’t speak for men I’m inclined to believe that not every man on earth is a complete slave to his sexual appetites. That’s just a degrading thing to believe.

            I do think it’s very sad that so many women in modern society present themselves as cheap objects in order to get attention from immoral men. No question about that. I suspect that we agree more than we disagree, but just be careful not to idealize all women or you may find yourself with a madonna-whore complex. You may also find yourself neurotically believing that even good, decent women are always right on the verge of “exploiting men’s weakness” and you’ll end up as one of those crazy modesty police who do more damage to women than they will ever realize.

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.algarme Michael Algarme

            Io,

            I do not fantasize about the damage that the modern university  professor has done to society and many individuals.  The most recent evidence is that we have a man who never held a real job in the White House as President of the United States.  This is a man who revels in the company of well known and self avowed Marxists.  And all too many individuals have bought the lie.  In the USSR there was no individualism, they were all “Comrade,” man and woman alike.

            This is where I’m bucking you Io.  We do agree on much.  But what I’m trying to highlight that while indeed human beings regardless of gender are kaleidoscopic in individuality and uniqueness there are some constant truths.  And one constant truth among many is that there are differences between men and women.  We have different bodies and chemistry including the brain which makes up our psyche.  We have different battles to fight with our male and female natures.  You know not what it is to me a man, and the strength of the appetites we have to combat.  You cannot know.  To be promiscuous is more a masculine characteristic than it is female.  All too many women, it seems since recorded history, have taken on to a greater degree than other individual females that is true.  The opposite is true of men taking on more feminine traits.  The gay man I mentioned who tried to kiss my hand, while I was a bouncer at a bar, after I coiled my fist to deck him, I kicked him out.  What I didn’t mention is that after getting him outside the establishment he was bawling his eyes out and shrieking in a high pitched voice his complaints to his friends.  Again, I didn’t strike him, I only evicted him.  It was closing time anyway.  And far to many men  have taken on these female qualities.  Hence a large part of the population of the city of San Francisco, California.   This is how Oprah Winfrey can go on her TV show and congratulate the avaunt guard boldness of the “first pregnant man.”  Never mind that  SHE had all the equipment to be pregnant in the first place.  And no matter what court of law said it or even the great Oprah Winfrey, SHE will always be an XX chromosome human being.

            To reiterate, YES the variance between individual human beings are myriad.  But we must not let that make us overlook the fact that there are constants in God’s universe.  There are many constants to talk about but that is off topic for this blog entry.  Suffice it to say that this Scripture sums the point up nicely.  Heb.13″ [8] Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and for ever.”

            And as you accuse me of ignoring your points, which I do not believe I do;  You, yourself ignore the words of Saint John Chrysostom.  People who ignore the constants wherein the Wisdom of God breathed into us when He gave us life in the order of creation, is to do so in the words of Saint John Chrysostom, last line in my quote from him.

            “And it is not to enemies you do this,
            nor are you urged on by any imaginary necessity, nor provoked by
            injury, but out of foolish vanity and pride.”

            Io,

            Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum.

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.algarme Michael Algarme

            Io,

            I do not fantasize about the damage that the modern university  professor has done to society and many individuals.  The most recent evidence is that we have a man who never held a real job in the White House as President of the United States.  This is a man who revels in the company of well known and self avowed Marxists.  And all too many individuals have bought the lie.  In the USSR there was no individualism, they were all “Comrade,” man and woman alike.

            This is where I’m bucking you Io.  We do agree on much.  But what I’m trying to highlight that while indeed human beings regardless of gender are kaleidoscopic in individuality and uniqueness there are some constant truths.  And one constant truth among many is that there are differences between men and women.  We have different bodies and chemistry including the brain which makes up our psyche.  We have different battles to fight with our male and female natures.  You know not what it is to me a man, and the strength of the appetites we have to combat.  You cannot know.  To be promiscuous is more a masculine characteristic than it is female.  All too many women, it seems since recorded history, have taken on to a greater degree than other individual females that is true.  The opposite is true of men taking on more feminine traits.  The gay man I mentioned who tried to kiss my hand, while I was a bouncer at a bar, after I coiled my fist to deck him, I kicked him out.  What I didn’t mention is that after getting him outside the establishment he was bawling his eyes out and shrieking in a high pitched voice his complaints to his friends.  Again, I didn’t strike him, I only evicted him.  It was closing time anyway.  And far to many men  have taken on these female qualities.  Hence a large part of the population of the city of San Francisco, California.   This is how Oprah Winfrey can go on her TV show and congratulate the avaunt guard boldness of the “first pregnant man.”  Never mind that  SHE had all the equipment to be pregnant in the first place.  And no matter what court of law said it or even the great Oprah Winfrey, SHE will always be an XX chromosome human being.

            To reiterate, YES the variance between individual human beings are myriad.  But we must not let that make us overlook the fact that there are constants in God’s universe.  There are many constants to talk about but that is off topic for this blog entry.  Suffice it to say that this Scripture sums the point up nicely.  Heb.13″ [8] Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and for ever.”

            And as you accuse me of ignoring your points, which I do not believe I do;  You, yourself ignore the words of Saint John Chrysostom.  People who ignore the constants wherein the Wisdom of God breathed into us when He gave us life in the order of creation, is to do so in the words of Saint John Chrysostom, last line in my quote from him.

            “And it is not to enemies you do this,
            nor are you urged on by any imaginary necessity, nor provoked by
            injury, but out of foolish vanity and pride.”

            Io,

            Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum.

        • pol

          Aah, NOW IT COMES OUT! Just another disgruntled customer asked to leave. Save your sermons for someone who cares.

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.algarme Michael Algarme

            Pol,

            The group yes, I was shut out.  But, pol, if you don’t care why are you reading this?  I suggest you save your sarcasm for someone upon whom it will have the intended result.  I was, after all, having an earlier discussion about Scripture and “pearls before swine.”


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