Oh, Pelosi. What are we going to do with you…

… In the past I have certainly vocalized my thoughts on Pelosi and fraternal correction while entertaining fantasies reminiscent of this…

… and I will admit an eye twitch develops at the mere sound of her name. So when she was back in the news last week spouting more about how her “faith compels her” the old war cry “anathema sit” was quick to rise from my lips. And so this post originally started out with wondering how flammable she might be.

Then I went to lunch with a friend and we chatted. And it turns out Pelosi’s ideas are, unfortunately, shared by a lot of people and sometimes those ideas are not formed out of direct malice and contempt for the Church but out of genuine misunderstanding and shaped by personal situations that can interfere with sound reason. It happens.

Although in Pelosi’s case I’m pretty sure she’s just evil personified. My friend; however, is just your typical liberal thinking Catholic who doesn’t really mean any harm and when she says she loves her religion I believe her. I think it’s good to remember that when dealing with people who think and believe dramatically different than we do. The intentions are usually good albeit misinformed. It’s a teaching moment that should be met with civility. And humor.

What? I’m advocating being nice to liberals. Why yes, yes I am.

About Katrina Fernandez

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  • Michael

    I remember that a shepherd’s (read that bishop’s) crook is hooked on the end to draw the wayward “lamb” by catching them by the throat, but also can be reversed to give them a “gentle” rap on the noggin’ to get their attention. The problem is that our “shepherds” have not been properly educated in the use of this tool. Also many of our public “Catholics” have the mistaken perception that the Church is a democracy rather than an inheritance with conditions attached.

  • http://www.arsvivendiblog.com Inge

    Michael, I can see where you are coming from. However, I think our inheritance also has a condition attached where laypeople typically don’t tell shepherds how to lead their flock. That’s not our position.

    My take on it is that it is what it is right now: they are here and we have to deal with it. If you ever worked with real sheep you will know that hitting them with a stock is the best way to guarantee they won’t come back to the flock.

    There are those typical liberal Catholics who most of all are a victim of poor CCD / education. It’s very hard to change views when those views were confirmed by poor teachers for many years. When a ton of people in the past said things were okay, and you suddenly say it’s not, it doesn’t come across as a very convincing thing.

    The thing we need the most now is prayer. Pray a lot for misguided Catholics. Ultimately, only God can change their hearts, not we.

  • http://thehomesickhome.blogspot.jp/ L.

    You’ll be happy to know that plenty of bona fide liberals in San Francisco don’t like her for entirely different reasons, and some of them even protest on her lawn. 

    She is fundamentally, first and foremost, a politician. Even those of us who voted for her wondered at times whether she was flammable (and then, in light of San Francisco’s horrible history of violence against politicians, immediately felt guilt for it). 

  • drea916

    Christian charity does not always mean being nice. I think that is what a lot of liberal catholics get confused (such as Pelosi) Kinda like when people quote Jesus “Do not judge!” That does not mean “Don’t dare criticize anyone, ever!”

  • Manny

    Next time show your friend paragraphs 2357-2359 in the Catachism:

    2357 Homosexuality
    refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or
    predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a
    great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its
    psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred
    Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave
    depravity,141 tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are
    intrinsically disordered.”142 They are contrary to the natural law.
    They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a
    genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be
    approved.

    2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated
    homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively
    disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with
    respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in
    their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will
    in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the
    Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

    2359 Homosexual persons are
    called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner
    freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and
    sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach
    Christian perfection.

    I think it hits the perfect note between rejecting the sin and loving the sinner.

  • marcosandolini333

    Everytime you see a Padre saying the Novus Ordo Mass,  see a woman handing out Holy Communion, or listen to or read a blog of Catholic men espousing political correctness while comfortable in their manties, you see the building blocks of this frankenstein monster, Mrs. Pelosi et. al.

    Women need to know their place; barefoot and pregnant. (not to be confused with pregnant out of wedlock).

    The excommunication of a soul is not something to be taken lightly.

    The core of the problems we experience at the moment come from the hard work of Jewish Freemasonry.

    The Cristero movie showing in America this June 1st touches on this.

    For your consideration:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKeOHZ9NWao

     

     

    http://www.angelusonline.org/index.php?section=articles&subsection=show_article& article_id=2119

     

    http://www.angelusonline.org/index.php?section=articles&subsection=show_article&article_id=2449

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  • http://twitter.com/ignatzz Ignatz

    Bishops like Dolan have done untold damage to the church by abusing their position and betraying the laity, and they STILL have not repented.

    If they want to reclaim their moral authority, they won’t do it by making pronouncements about how sinful the lay people in the church are.  They will do it falling to their knees and begging the laity for forgiveness for their sins against the Body of Christ, and repenting for how sinful THEY have been.

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

      As calumny is a sin, I am sure you have resources to show where you can make such claims against Cardinal Dolan.  


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