Will The Disciples Of Christ Ever Be Open & Affirming?

Does our theology influence our politics, or does our politics influence our theology? How will the presidential election effect the General Assembly of the Christian Church (Disciples Of Christ) on the issue of being an Open & Affirming denomination?

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  • http://rudetheology.com/ Mike Croghan

    Phil, honest question. I don’t understand the “but” at 1:26. How/why can a question like this be decided at a denominational level, if DoC is as fiercely congregationalist as I’ve been led to believe? I understand (or I think I do) that congregations would still have full freedom to dissent from the denominational policy – just as they do now. But I don’t understand the sense of having a denominational policy at all in a fiercely congregationalist denomination.

    Understand that this question is coming from a 100% pro-queer POV – I’m an out bisexual and I am uncompromisingly open, affirming, and pro-LGBTQQIAAPP etc. But I’m also an uncompromisingly congregationalist Christian (which is a bit of an awkward thing for an Anglican to be, admittedly) and I honestly don’t understand what it means for a truly congregationalist denom to have an official position on an issue like this.

    Thanks in advance, and blessings on all the good stuff you do!


  • Danny Crow

    Greetings Phil,

    I appreciate someone who is willing to put their opinions and views out there for others to see and hear. I was a little disappointed when I heard the video talk. It seemed like the elections were a one issue election.

    As a Christian I feel I am partyless. I strongly believe our laws have created a mass redistribution of wealth to the rich. I have strong beliefs that abortion is the taking of a life. I feel the death penalty as we have used it is racist and immoral. I believe our free enterprise system gives people opportunities unlike any other nation in the world. I believe those who want us to close the borders don’t mind using the cheap labor without the benefit of giving that person an honest wage that would enable them to provide their own health care. I believe that when I watch the Democratic convention there is a huge portion of the delegates who hate my God. I feel this too when I try and listen to Bill Maher, Stephanie Miller, Ed Shultz and others progressive shows. I am a man without a party.

    It seemed as if you pinned the election on LGBT issues, much like the right pins the election often on just the abortion issues. It seems as if there are so many more issues that go into the equation.

    I took the online test

    http://www.isidewith.com and ended up with both major candidates scoring over 50%. Many of my friends were 98% – 1%. I feel this is so intellectually and spiritually dishonest. How can one look at scriptures and come to a conclusion like that. There are too many issues to be so one-sided. Neither party has the right to look the believer in the eye and say we have your best interest at stake. The moral corruption within both parties is sickening and I cannot publicly tell someone how to vote, as I believe there are so many issues at stake you have to vote that portion of God’s heart that is dearest to you. For one it may be one way and the other another way, but I feel we are so morally bankrupt in our two party system I am picking the best of two evils and that is not a position I will try and influence someone towards.

    I will vote. But it is with humility and fear I pull the lever and I promise you that my heart breaks at how disillusioned I feel and how little hope I have when I exercise that right.