Leaving Munster asks “Can there be a non-violent atonement?”. At least he explains a little what his understanding of the alternative could be to the classical view of the atonement. But to him, and to Wink (sorry, I havent had time to fully interact with Wink yet) I would just say at the moment, please interact with Romans, especially chapters 1 and 3 and make sense of them for me from your perspective. I will get around to interacting more... Read more
UPDATE November 2008– Steve Chalke has expressed his views more fully in a chapter in The Atonement Debate, and I have posted a response to this. Leaving Munster was disappointed but does a good job of describing the public EA debate on Steve Chalke from his perspective- I hadnt seen this before today: “It was enjoyable but, ultimately, a little disappointing. The really disappointing thing, from my perspective, was that the responses againt Steve weren’t good enough. That’s my own... Read more
Challies Review of – A Generous Orthodoxy. This review really lays down the guantlet. Challies quotes the back cover of hte book which states that Brian Maclaren “argues for a post-liberal, post-conservative, post-protestant convergence that will stimulate lively interest and global conversation among thoughtful Christians from all traditions.” Whilst I have never read the book this is exactly what I mean by neo-liberalism. “In short, it is awful. I consider it, in terms of content, one of the worst I... Read more
I have discovered there are quite a few blogs out there addressing some of this issues I have recently picked up on here. Whether the new movements represent emerging church or neo-liberalism is vitally important. I am very keen that we all interact and discuss each other’s posts. Thus, yes you guessed it we have another new aggregator for your delight! If you know of any blogs on either side of this discussion that should be in let me know... Read more
Every Thought Captive likes my “neo-liberalism” label, and believes a battle is underway for the emergant church. I would go one further and say there is a battle for the Evangelical church as a whole. How will we develop in the 21st Century. If Emergent was just a new movement separate from the evangelicals it might not be as important as it is. As I have said before like evangelicals as a whole the emergant movement is not all bad,... Read more
Daniel Bedingfield describes facing death head on and coming out the other side. Read more
Lets hope this stops the critics but still more will be needed. Read more
Happy new year everyone from London where I am about to go to bed a few hours before my American readers will usher in 2005. We gathered as a church and then at a few minutes before midnight turned on the TV to BBC 1. The crouds and hence the whole nation were asked to observe 2 minutes of silence to honor the dead. You could have heard a pin drop anywhere in the land. Then at midnight a MASSIVE... Read more
Wink is determined to show that you can critique penal substitution without being a neo-liberal. He accepts the punishment bit unlike most neo-liberals but denies substitution. I will interact with this more later- in the meantime any one else up for the debate with him? Read more
Mark D Roberts argues that not only is it OK to celebrate new year tonight despite the tsunami, it is vital that we do. In the midst of great pain and heaviness the world needs joy. Lets generously enjoy the New Year and make today another record day of giving financial aid to the victims of the tsunami. After all to share our money is the least that we can do. I pray that all my readers may have a... Read more
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