Top 13 Bible Verses About Virtue

Top 13 Bible Verses About Virtue September 3, 2019

God places a high value on godly virtues, so here are the top 13 Bible verses about virtue as found in Scripture.

Second Peter 1:5-7 For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love.

A virtuous person is one who has high moral standards, and acts with integrity, honesty, and morality, and importantly, even when no one is looking. The Apostle Peter tells us we are to “make every effort” to supplement our “faith with virtue,” meaning it doesn’t come naturally, even for Christians. Notice that Peter puts virtue before knowledge, but virtue with self-control leads to godliness. This godliness allows God to love others through us.

Proverbs 10:9 Whoever walks in integrity walks securely, but he who makes his ways crooked will be found out.

When the Bible mentions “walk” or “walking,” it is referring to a lifestyle, so whoever lives with integrity in life can rest assured they’ll walk securely. There’s a lot more damage that can be done be telling a lie than telling the truth, even to one’s own heart. This means, we must keep our promises, or not make them in the first place. God “honors those who fear the LORD; who swears to his own hurt and does not change” (Psalm 15:4).

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.

One way I can get rid of that “song in my head” is to replace it with another, so in this sense, when we’re thinking bad or negative thoughts, it’s time to dwell on virtuous things…things that are honorable, pure, lovely, commendable, and excellent. It’s still up to us to make every effort to “think about these things.”

Proverbs 31:10-11 An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain.

To the question, “Who can find” an excellent wife,” I can honestly say I have a virtious wife. Perfect? Of course not, but a godly woman who “opens her hand to the poor and reaches out her hands to the needy” (Prov 31:20). With my own eyes I have seen her as “She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue” (Prov 31:26). Her value is far above that of rubies because “a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised” (Prov 31:30b).

Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

These are natural by-products of the Holy Spirit. These are godly virtues that we cannot produce of ourselves (John 15:5), and these virtues (love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control) are in great demand today.

Proverbs 11:3 The integrity of the upright guides them, but the crookedness of the treacherous destroys them.

By saying “The integrity of the upright guides them,” we could understand that to mean, what they know they must do, they do. Whatever is right guides their decision making. If you know the right thing to do and manage to do it, the consequences will provide a straighter path in life, and one that’s straighter is decidedly safer than one that’s crooked. That’s the treacherous way, and that way destroys many.

James 5:12 But above all, my brothers, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or by any other oath, but let your “yes” be yes and your “no” be no, so that you may not fall under condemnation.

Anything more than “Yes” seems to be an attempt to prove that we mean it. If we swear by something that we have no control over, that cannot guarantee something will or won’t happen. Swearing to do something only puts a person at risk for humiliation when they fail to do it…even though they “swore on their mother’s grave.” A simple yes or no will suffice…and it’s better than trying to add stipulations to it.

First Chronicles 29:17 I know, my God, that you test the heart and have pleasure in uprightness. In the uprightness of my heart I have freely offered all these things, and now I have seen your people, who are present here, offering freely and joyously to you.

This writer has a clean conscience. That’s more difficult to have when you know God knows the heart (1 Sam 16:7), but clearly, we can’t fool God. He tests our hearts, but not so He’ll find out anything new about us, but so we’ll find out new things about us! One thing we know, God is pleased by the righteous virtues of His people. Of course, they’re not sinless or perfect, but they’re striving to live a virtuous life.

Proverbs 19:1 Better is a poor person who walks in his integrity than one who is crooked in speech and is a fool.

Riches can’t help us walk in integrity any more than poverty can, so walking in integrity has nothing to do with a person’s social or financial status. A poor person will do far better in life walking in integrity, in this life and at the judgment, than a rich one will do who walks in his or her own way.

Psalm 41:11-12 By this I know that you delight in me: my enemy will not shout in triumph over me. But you have upheld me because of my integrity, and set me in your presence forever.

God upholds those who walk in integrity. Integrity is even more important in this world with all the corruption there is, so the psalmist sees God’s righteous hand will uphold him throughout life. God also sees His children as being set “in your presence forever,” or as if, it’s as good as done.

Romans 5:7-8 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

I can remember many heroic accounts of someone giving their lives for another or for several people, but I cannot remember someone volunteering to die; even willingly, for someone who’s an known enemy. That’s the virtuous love of God that doesn’t give enemies what they deserve (God’s wrath), but what they need (love, forgiveness). Those are virtues we should endeavor to live.

John 8:46 Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me?

Who could accuse Jesus of any sin? No one could because He was without sin. Jesus asked the crowds of self-righteous Jews, “Which of you convicts me of sin?” Here was their chance to accuse Jesus of sin, publically, but they were silent in their accusations about Him because He did no sin, and there was no other way that we could be redeemed by God than “with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot” (1 Pet 1:19). It took His perfection to save us.

Luke 23:4 Then Pilate said to the chief priests and the crowds, “I find no guilt in this man.”

Pontius Pilate understood that there was “no guilt in this man,” Jesus Christ. The Son of God was virtuous in every way possible, and Pilate knew that there was no reason to have Him crucified, but rather, Pilate knew the Jews were jealous of Him (Matt 27:18). Even so, Pilate gave into the near-to-riot crowds and had the sinless Son of God put to death.

Conclusion

If you liked these Bible verses about virtue, I hope you’ll share them with your friends. The virtues that the Bible speaks about, and those generated by the Holy Spirit, are like water to a dying and thirsty world. Without these virtues, Christians would be just like the world, but if we have one virtue above others, let it be our love, for it is by our love for one another that the world will know we are His disciples (John 13:34-35).

Article by Jack Wellman

Jack Wellman is an ordained elder of the Brethren Church and a Pastor and Prison Minister in the State of Kansas, but also a writer at Christian Quotes and What Christians Want to Know which address questions about the Bible, and a published author of four books. He also plants ministries like jail/prison ministries and nursing home ministries, and other evangelistic activities.  Check out his book, Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.


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  • pud

    But Jack…you have NO virtue whatsoever! You make a wretched living lying to people about things you cannot know, don’t care to know and don’t want to know. You peddle fear, guilt and shame especially to children who have yet to reach the age of reason. You indoctrinate vulnerable impressionable children into your absurd make believe death cult. You use fear and intimidation to shape impressionable minds. You don’t care in the least about what is actually true and are terrified to confront those like myself who expose you and your cult for what they truly are. You are the antithesis of virtue in every way. A virtuous man prefers an uncomfortable truth to a convenient lie….you embrace the exact opposite. You’re a coward, liar, willfully deceptive ignorant superstitious peddler of fiction to the stupid, gullible and credulous…in short, about the least virtuous a man can possibly be.

  • pud

    “The Son of God was virtuous in every way possible”

    There is no christian “god”
    There is no evidence of the existence of any such figure as jesus
    The fictional jesus WAS NOT virtuous in the same way you are not…

    The fictional jesus endorsed slavery…FACT…indesputable FACT
    The fictional jesus cured some sick but did not eradicate disease…wholly IMMORAL
    The fictional jesus peddled lies and false promises
    The fictional jesus is said to come back with a sword to slaughter mankind….wicked, immoral and without virtue
    The fictional jesus watches death, suffering and violence and does nothing….aside from him not existing this is despicable

    I could go on and on as you know.

    You’re a sick man Jack…a deluded infantile deranged wicked man completely lacking in anything virtuous. FACT

  • Jack Wellman

    Poor, lost Mrs. Pud. My answer to such trolls: Matt 7:6 They receive the answers they deserve.

    • pud

      Not a “troll” cowardly Jack who cannot debate me. I’m a truth seeker and not fearful of it as you are. You can cherry pick quotes from your deranged death cult book all day and night but you cannot demonstrate that anything you or it claims is actually true. Can you?

      I’m not the lost one Jack…you are. You’re the one who simply swallows whole an ancient book written by no name savages without critical thought. It is you who ignores all the contradictions, violence, immorality contained within and crafts a delusional narrative that you can peddle for a living.

      You sir live a lie. You promote lies, You embrace nonsense and the absurd. You are irrational and willfully delusional and worse, you don’t care. Worse still you make your pitiful living by lying to children and intimidating them with horrific images of eternal suffering should they not comply with your death cult doctrine.

      Quote away coward….hide behind your pulpit….live in your deranged fantasy land

      So sad. So pathetic.

      • Susan Jane Elohim

        Dear pud, you have allowed self will and independence and faith in your own wealth and other things blind you to the fact that these are all illusions. Your wealth could be wiped out in a single night then who would you turn to?

        Stop being stubborn and just accept the fact that you are personally loved by God and that God will raise you right in the scriptures if you let Him.

        You are the one raising all the objections and obstacles but God can change you if you will surrender to Him and let Him teach you how to rightly divide the Word.

        Read the “is, was and will be site” under essential reading for the rightly dividing the Word topic. If you keep substituting the world’s terms for God’s then you will never understand Him and that He loves you personally, too and sent His Son to die in your place so that you can be spiritually reborn and have a greater life now and in the future. He is your greatest benefactor so don’t let the world confuse you. Go and learn how to rightly divide the Word so you can learn from God personally.

        Have a blessed day, friend. Now go and read and let God bless you with understanding.

        • Pud is showing all the false arguments that people present for for God. Don’t you think that if God exists, then wouldn’t God applaud Pud for demonstrating ridiculous concepts of God that his followers present? If God doesn’t exist, then isn’t Pud bringing people closer to the truth?

          How can anyone “rightly divide the Word of Truth” if it was written by barbaric, violent and ignorant savages? God wouldn’t write such a book, would he? You must be delusional to think that a book commanding the slaughter of little children and babies is the Word of Truth, must you not?

    • J.

      Can you please take my comments from spam and pending. I am not spam I just do not comment very frequently. Although your reminder of Matt. 7:6 is a good one, every once in awhile God puts Pud on my heart and I engage a bit. She is self-proclaimed truth-seeker who has unfortunately created such a delusional fantasy within her own mind and heart about “God” that even the smallest seeds of truth about His true nature and purposes are ignored/missed/dismissed/snatched-away immediately. Winston Churchill said it best, ““Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.” I pray that one seed actually gets planted one day.

      • pud

        Is that so? Tell me what my fantasy is that I’ve deluded myself with and how you KNOW what is “true” You might start by actually demonstrating that your invisible undetectable “god” exists….waiting.

        • J.

          It is so! the fantasy that you have deluded yourself with is that you are more righteous than your creator. All the characteristics that you attribute to the “god” you imagined yourself have NOTHING to do with truth and the nature of the One True God, these fantasies have nothing to do with how this world was created and how it operates.

          In the book of Job we have Job and his friends all confused about how to explain what happened in Jobs life. In 4:17 one of them asks the question – can a mere mortal be more righteous than God or more pure than His maker? It is a rhetorical question, the answer is no. However Job and his friends, you and A LOT of people have answered incorrectly. You create a false identity of a “god” an imagined “god” that is less righteous than yourself. That whole foundation is wrong. You have created a “god” that is a murderer, but I assume that you are not. You have imagined a “god” that is a liar, but I assume you are not. You continually give attributes to this “god” that you would not even entertain, therefore you are continually placing yourself and your beliefs and behaviors “more righteous than God”. THAT is the foundation problem with your world-view and therefore causes all kinds of confusion and prevents you from removing the veil from your eyes to also find the truth.

          • J.

            P.S I would reject that “god” you imaged as well.

          • pud

            I’ll gladly deconstruct this mess for you…

            1. Demonstrate that any such “creator” exists. You cannot so it is pure make believe on your part.

            2. If we refer to your imaginary bible “creator” I am absolutely more righteous…I have never committed genocide, murder, eternal punishment and I don’t condone slavery as your invisible undetectable “gawd” thing does routinely in your book of fables

            3. “Truth” cannot be asserted or claimed…it must be DEMONSTRATED. Not “believed” not “claimed” not “asserted” but SHOWN with evidence, fact and measurement.

            4. Don’t care one lick what your sick book says….your use of “Job” proves my point about who is more righteous …me or your vindictive cruel deity.

            5. I don’t “imagine” anything….that’s for you and your religious death cult to do

            6. I am not confused at all. Define “truth” and how you arrive at it. Trust me…”faith” is NOT a pathway to “truth”

          • J.

            You have successfully de-constructed YOUR world view. But I already know YOUR world-view, you share it over and over again. I am simply asking you to entertain the notion, to lay down your own self-righteousness and opinions and consider that you may be wrong/incorrect/misunderstanding.

            1. Demonstrate that any such “creator” exists. You cannot so it is pure make believe on your part. —
            All of creation demonstrates that there is a Creator. You just refuse to take the evidence that is in abundance all around you (how the earth was created, the subsystems and ecosystems and intricacies of each, the human body, even the makeup of water) you have chosen to believe (not through evidence mind you) that ALL of this, the earth and cosmos, that all of this was created by one big fireball, coincident, cosmic accident coming together just so. THAT belief sounds just as silly to me and in my opinion takes more faith than I have that it was Created as the bible says it was for you and me because we are loved and treasured.

            2. If we refer to your imaginary bible “creator” I am absolutely more righteous…I have never committed genocide, murder, eternal punishment and I don’t condone slavery as your invisible undetectable “gawd” thing does routinely in your book of fables
            —God has never committed genocide, murder, eternal punishment, so many accusations you claim against God are what MAN does to each other. We have talked about this before. MAN has shown over the generations to be absolutely cruel and ruthless to each other! Never once did God tell us that is what He wanted for us

            3. “Truth” cannot be asserted or claimed…it must be DEMONSTRATED. Not “believed” not “claimed” not “asserted” but SHOWN with evidence, fact and measurement.
            — you are right, Truth is demonstrated. on this we agree. problem we have PUD is that your “belief” absolutely blind you from seeing it.

            4. Don’t care one lick what your sick book says….your use of “Job” proves my point about who is more righteous …me or your vindictive cruel deity.
            —I understand you do not honor the book, and you don’t care. But again, your description of God is inaccurate. vindictive. cruel. Give me an example where it was GOD, not man, that demonstrated vindictive and cruel – see what was written above.

            5. I don’t “imagine” anything….that’s for you and your religious death cult to do.
            I agree that religion (man made systems to understand God) are more like cults. but man-made systems of religion do not equal God.

            6. I am not confused at all. Define “truth” and how you arrive at it. Trust me…”faith” is NOT a pathway to “truth”
            —truth provides the answers the big questions such as why are you here? I am so fortunate to have found the answer to that and not live “belief” or “faith” of your world-view and “religious” idea that it is all big cosmic accident

          • pud

            You have demonstrated absolutely nothing. Like all religious lunatics you “believe” things and support those delusional “beliefs” with claims and assertions.

            Define “exists”…..tell me the exact criteria used to differentiate between things that “exist” and things that do not “exist”

            Define “demonstrate”…..show exactly through demonstration how any of your baseless claims are demonstrations…ie evidence.

            You have nothing.

  • Guestie

    “Pilate gave into the near-to-riot crowds and had the sinless Son of God put to death.”

    Which was exactly what God wanted. Pilate was virtuous.

    • Susan Jane Elohim

      If you never asked God for the gift of faith and received it then learned how to rightly divide God’s Word you shouldn’t even be commenting because you are just revealing your own ignorant rebellion.

      Try showing God some respect and humbling yourself and asking for faith. Why wait around like Nebuchadnezzar and be humbled when the spiritually intelligent people know that God is greater than themselves and humble themselves.

      If you don’t know that you are too spiritually ignorant to even be commenting. God gives teachers to lift spiritual ignorance but some people like rebelling more than they like learning from teachers sent to them by God and that is foolishness.

      Paul said “Thou fool” in the scriptures so it’s ok for me to point out the error of people’s ways who do not know or live for God like a Christian in a righteous relationship with Him lives.

      Some people let the world, lies, and other people hinder them from understanding God then go out and attempt to hinder other people and even persecute them. Go read the Open Doors site some time. It is true. People go out as ambassadors for God and meet persecution, rejection and the people who don’t know God trying to hinder them which is a backwards attitude to have.

      Jesus died on the Cross to make many brothers and sisters for God so you can keep your critical and backward interpretations to yourself. You have to have faith to even begin to please God and receive a godly revelation from Him.

      The pastor doesn’t throw pearls before swine because he knows you are spiritually illiterate and only want to suit yourself and got everything backwards.

      That’s why people repent…because they know they misunderstood God and/or did everything the wrong worldly way instead of His way.

      Not everyone has a proper understanding of the scriptures and you don’t argue that with ignorant fools self determined to be contrary to God.

      You should stick to atheist blogs if you lack the humility to love, honor and obey God and Jesus and learn the right way to do things in this world.

      That learning the Bible calls a pearl and you don’t cast pearls before people determined to think and act like swine.

      How would you like a swine controlling your thinking when you are suppose to be born spiritually again and a new creation in Jesus.

      People leave atheists to their own spiritual blindness all the time because they refuse to learn and because faith is the gift of God and nobody controls God’s giving of gifts.

      So you will have to humble yourself and ask for the gift and relearn everything or else you will keep sounding off like a spiritually illiterate fool.

      I hope you learn to seek God and ask Him to bless you with more understanding.

      How was Pilate virtuous washing his hands and turning an innocent man over to a violent out of it’s mind crowd? He could have put a stop to things.

      So Jesus was crucified and beat Satan on the Cross. See Colossians 2:15 on it and please stop commenting until God gives you the gift of faith. Seriously who comments on the Bible from a position of darkness and unenlightenment? People want to be more enlightened not less so that’s why they seek God out in the scriptures but a lot of them need a good teacher’s help. You keep fighting your good teachers in the scriptures and you stay unenlightened, angry and disturbed.

      God Bless.

      • Guestie

        If you could have prevented Jesus’ crucifixion, would you have?

        • Susan Jane Elohim

          I am a believer so I always go along with God’s will just like Abraham and the apostles and Jesus does. I’m not smart enough to second guess God’s decisions and plans but I trust in His nature and ability and I think I was born knowing He will always do right like Abraham says in Genesis.

          But Pilate isn’t a born believer trusting in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so he could have prevented it if he wanted to. The Pharisees never had to give Jesus an illegal night trial either even though God knew they would. God has foreknowledge.

          The outcome is what is important. Jesus gives spiritual birth to a lot of people and Satan is beat on the Cross. Jesus will come again a second time when it’s time to deliver the whole world and start the next phase of God’s plan.

          Find that link I told pud about and learn how to rightly divide the Word because without God’s help a lot of people can’t do it but they act like they can judge God.

          Google the Divine Preservation of the Messianic line, too and read that. People get sloppy about understanding God and maintaining their faith but don’t let their error be your’s.
          God is on everyone’s side. Why would I pit my will against someone stronger and greater than me that can make me or break me? But even before I realized that I always believed there is a holy God and thank goodness there is because this world would really go to the dogs without Him. Imagine everyone got to make up the rules for himself. This world is already unfair enough at times.

          • Guestie

            Thumbs up for your allusion to Judas and his virtuous act in going along with God’s will to betray Jesus! A lot of Christians seem to think Judas was a bad guy rather than one of the heroes of the story.

            I don’t see how belief in God is necessary to behave virtuously in the eyes of God.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Like I said it is impossible to please God without faith so why do you argue what you never understood?

            I never said Judas was virtuous. I made no comment on him at all. He’s a totally different person and could have a totally different heart motive from Pilate.

            Block. Matt. 7:6.

          • Maltnothops

            “is impossible to please God without faith”

            Or even with faith. No matter what you do, it is never enough. Thank God for God, otherwise God would punish you for all eternity.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            God bless.

            Imho God loves everyone all the time. Man misunderstands God.

            I am a Christian universal reconciliationist. So God does not send anyone to hell. He doesn’t have to. He has the rod of correction i.e. judgment. He used it on Nebuchadnezzar.

            Google “God’s Plan For All”. The free ebook explains.

            I don’t know why anyone harps on hell. It’s a translation error from the Vulgate that stubbornly persisted because the papacy insisted on upholding this error ridden translation as the only official translation for about a thousand years.

            I hope you repent and find your way home to God.

            No need to reply. I don’t spend as much time posting online as I once did. I find the online medium of communication tends to encourage error and I’d rather not be part of it any more.

            Face to face communication is more effective for Christians and the Gospel message.

            God bless!

          • Maltnothops

            No need to tell me not to reply. I make those decisions myself.

            I do like your message that there is no need for anyone to pay attention to your god. I came to that conclusion decades ago but I don’t often see Christians say it out loud.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Actually you should pay attention to God. Why would you attribute such an idea to me.

            I will put you back on block so you can seek Him instead of wasting your time conversing with me.

            The book I mentioned is a good place to start since it corrects some Christian doctrinal error. Imagine the conversations you could have with your minister father.

            God bless you and keep you!

          • Maltnothops

            Why would you attribute such an idea to me.

            Because you pointed out that there aren’t any non-temporal consequences for not doing so.

            Good luck with your official ordination. I was ordained 12 yeas ago.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            I don’t believe you are ordained.

            I didn’t say there were no consequences. There are.

            Have a great day.

          • Maltnothops

            Belief is not necessary for something to be true. I am ordained in the Universal Life Church. I can perform weddings, which in my state is restricted to certain public officials and ordained clergy.

            As for non-temporal consequences, you didn’t have to say it directly. You said it by implication. It is the logical corollary of “there is no hell”. I agree with you on that point, by the way. Fortunately, we have civil and social consequences for anti-social behaviors.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            I didn’t imply anything. You assumed without asking.

          • Maltnothops

            I didn’t assume. I deduced. But perhaps you can be explicit. What are the non-temporal consequences for not paying any attention to your god?

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            You can research it yourself then maybe you will learn something and stop representing your assumptions as if they are facts.

          • Maltnothops

            I already have researched it. There is no reason to pay any attention to your god. If you have any info to the contrary that my research failed to uncover, I’d be interested in hearing it.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            I already gave you the info.

          • Maltnothops

            Could you copy and paste it so I know to what you are referring. I often find your writing unclear.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Already answered this twice.

            Busy now. Bye! and block.

          • Maltnothops

            Well, that doesn’t seem very Christian of you.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Well I rethought it and I am going to pray for you so what is your first name?

            You have suppressed God and it is time for you to stop acting so devious and self delusional and to get your heart right with God so I am going to pray to God to assist you with all that and you pray for it regularly, too, all right.

            Read Romans 1. God knows you are suppressing a knowledge of Him. You cannot fool God.

            Dear Father, please help Maltnothops _________ (fill in the blank with your name) to stop being so deliberately self delusional and to stop playing games with his soul and spiritual future so that he can be reborn a whole new holy person in Yeshua Ha’Messiach. We adore you Father and know You can do all things including saving humble Maltnothops and if He needs your humbling power in His life we ask for that too. Please bless him, Father, in all ways in your own good time and according to your divine wisdom and we thank you for your most glorious Son’s work and labor on the Cross on behalf of the whole world.

            Amen.

          • Maltnothops

            You pray for me. I’ll think for you.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Be sure to google a site called “is, was and will be” and read the “rightly dividing the word” topic under essential reading.

            Have a blessed day!

          • Maltnothops

            Could you copy and paste that thing you said you had already told me twice, please. Thanks.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            I told you to google “God’s Plan for All” and read it. It is a free ebook that discusses how those who do not receive Jesus face judgment. I can’t summarize that much scriptural info in this format.

            Have a blessed day and remember Jesus loves you and died on the Cross for you, too. Far too many people are unrepentant and fail to appreciate that but it is true nonetheless.

          • Maltnothops

            Oh, that’s what you were talking about.

            The FAQ near the end of the book says the consequence of not paying attention to your god is emotional pain for a while. Not that hard to summarize.

          • kyuss

            A free e-book! it must be THE TRUTH.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Some jurisdictions do not recognize marriages solemnized by ULC ministers.

          • Maltnothops

            Mine does.

          • Maltnothops

            But my jurisdiction does not recognize marriages solemnized by people who are unofficially ordained by your god. So get cracking.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            I do need to get offline y’know. I’m unofficially credentialed by God as a minister and it is time for the more official credentialing process to take place and that doesn’t get done sitting around chatting with unbelievers who should be believers by now.

            But I will allow you might need a doctrinal correction in the right direction to see the light. I am not so easily knocked off by doctrinal error as some people are but everyone is different. Thanks be to God. Or this world would be a dull place.

            May His Grace Abound To You!

          • kyuss

            obviously your ministry is unbiblical. women are not called to be teachers.

          • So you claim to be unofficially credentialed by God as a minister. Don’t you mean that you are credentialed only in your imagination? Aren’t you totally deluded?

          • pud

            He got a “participation blue ribbon” like the special needs kids get.

          • If no-one else recognizes that you have been unofficially credentialed by God as a minister, then aren’t you saying that you are listening to God and they are not. So your fellow Christians, according to you, are mistaken, but you are not? Isn’t this the height of arrogance, on your part?

          • Maltnothops

            Guestie, I take it you were including Judas in “the apostles”. I’m not sure that is technically correct. Judas was a disciple but not an apostle. That being said, I agree with you that Judas did exactly what God wanted him to do. Otherwise the myth makes no sense. Jesus knew he was going to be ‘betrayed”. If he didn’t want to be betrayed, he could have prevented it. I always thought the Gospel of Tim explained this with the most clarity.

          • kyuss

            Otherwise the myth makes no sense.

            Nothing in christianity makes sense.

          • Guestie

            So your not trying to stop Jesus’ crucifixion would be as virtuous as Pilate’s actions.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            No it wouldn’t be because my heart motives wouldn’t be the same.

            Besides Pilate had a front view of events and I only have a back view.

            You have an evil heart motive for looking to cast aspersions on God and His followers.

            King James Bible
            Matthew 12:35
            A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

            I’m done trying. You’re back on block for a failure to understand.

            You can’t even understand God is a lot better than people yet want to go around tearing down things you don’t even understand.

          • Guestie

            I’m sorry you weren’t able to explain what you meant.

          • kyuss

            don’t try and argue with this pathetic intellect. it’s not worth it.

          • You weren’t born knowing anything about God, let alone knowing that he will always do right. No young child can remember anything about the first 2 years of life, or so. So why lie? Why make a claim that you cannot possibly know? Do you think that Jesus would be happy with you telling lies?

      • What makes you think that Guestie is an atheist? Did he say so? And if he is an atheist, why do you write so disrespectfully of him? Your reply is so arrogant and lacks complete humility. If he doesn’t know that he “is spiritually ignorant”, as you put it, why should he not respond to you? He doesn’t know (so you claim) that he is too ignorant not to respond. So how can you blame him for responding?

        How do you know that Guestie is determined to be “contrary to God”, as you put it? Maybe he “ignorant (as you put it) ” of God.

        Your arrogance stands out also when you claim that Guestie is letting “swine control his thinking”. If acting foolishly is making arrogant assumptions about other people and their motives, then you are one of the classic examples of a fool, not Guestie. Sarah Jane! You need to look in the mirror and take a good hard look at yourself. All your comments do is turn people off from following Jesus.

        Your words are not flavoured and seasoned with salt. They are not uplifting, inspiring and encouraging. All they do is turn people away from Jesus whom you claim to follow.

        • Susan Jane Elohim

          This is my last comment to you because you are going back on block. You obviously don’t walk by faith John Arthur and you accepted the teaching of men ahead of the tutoring of the Holy Spirit.

          You are in fact spiritually blind and dead in your trespasses and sin so you need to believe, repent and make the full surrender to God then learn how to maintain your faith which is the gift of God and walk in the Spirit.

          God appoints teachers and I am exhorting you because you suffer from a spiritual problem and you are going to have to learn to take your problem to God in the Bible and let Him give you the answer on what exactly you need to repent of. Then make the full surrender so God can speed up your spiritual training.

          I exhort people because some people are spiritually lazy and need the extra spiritual motivation and extra help on starting their relationship with God.

          Now if you are in rebellion to God and don’t want a relationship with Him and keep associating with bad company and taking bad counsel over godly counsel that is up to you but don’t expect me to argue with you or even be concerned about you judging me. I am too busy performing God’s will and the scriptures say:

          1 Corinthians 4 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

          Servants of Christ
          4 Let a man regard us in this manner, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God. 2 In this case, moreover, it is required [a]of stewards that one be found trustworthy. 3 But to me it is a very small thing that I may be examined by you, or by any human [b]court; in fact, I do not even examine myself. 4 For I am conscious of nothing against myself, yet I am not by this acquitted; but the one who examines me is the Lord. 5 Therefore do not go on [c]passing judgment before [d]the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.

          Maybe you want to explain how a carnal man’s judgment is binding on a spiritual person performing God’s will. Your judgment is not binding on me at all because if I abide in Jesus then I passed over from death into life.

          Start focusing on yourself and the good Lord for a change. Repent and set Jesus apart as Lord in your heart.

          I can’t do that for you. I can only tell you to do it.

          If you’d start following the scriptures and toss out the advice of unspiritual people in your life then maybe you will make it back into Jesus’ fold. Petition him on it. I don’t have the final say on things.

          Have a blessed day.

          Block.

          • pud

            “Faith” = gullibility

            There is nothing too absurd or ridiculous that cannot be “believed” by “faith”

            The Taliban have “faith”
            Suicide bombers have “faith”
            All “religious” death cults have “faith”

            “Faith” is not a pathway to “truth” it’s the mindset of the ignorant, credulous and gullible

          • You love to believe fairy stories, don’t you Susan Jane? Your version of Jesus is a horror fairy story since what you write to others is full of arrogance and it utterly judgmental. All you want to do is to pontificate on your own infallibility under the guise of being “led by the Holy Spirit.” Your utterly repugnant theology is doing a great job in creating atheists. Keep up this good work!

          • Maltnothops

            She certainly uses a lot of words to say very little. And none of it advances the Pretty Good Commission.

          • Well said!

          • “… you are accepting the teaching of men ahead of the tutoring of the Holy Spirit.”

            Wasn’t the bible written by human beings? Aren’t some parts of it written by barbaric savages who created god in their own likeness? So did the Holy Spirit inspire the savagery? Did God, if he/she/it exists, command the slaughter of babies as the bible god did?

          • “… God appoints teachers…”

            Well, you are not one of those. You are self appointed, but claim to be credentialed by God as a minister, when no-one else recognizes your supposed credentials.

      • kyuss

        what a bunch of silly drivel.

  • pud

    There is NO actual historical evidence for the existence of any “jesus”…None, nada, zip, nothing. Even if there were…and there is not…it would not be evidence for any of the claims that go along with this individual. You, like all gullible credulous “believers” simply “believe” what you want to “believe”

    No one did anything to me whatsoever so project your imaginary visions of me elsewhere. Should be easy enough seeing how vivid your imagination is.

    There is no such thing as “free will” If there was it couldn’t be given as “free will” is a concept

    Herein lies one of your many contradictions….

    Does your imaginary invisible undetectable “god” know what your future is? Is it not all part of his stupid master plan?….your deranged book says that he does so you must answer yes.

    If “he” knows then your future is pre-ordained and you have no power to alter it and thus no free will

    See how much fun critical thinking is?

    Of course you will dismiss this despite the obvious truth of it and you’ll go on making up excuses to remain a prisoner of your religious death cult no matter how many truths or contradictions get placed before you.

  • pud

    Wrong. No one..absolutely NO ONE was a first hand observer of anything. EVERYTHING is hearsay including EVERY historians reference to the STORIES and CLAIMS of others. Josephus ONLY mentions what others were saying and believing…. he and all other historians had NO actual encounters or actual evidence to validate ANY claims…you are either willfully delusional or lying.

    Yes or no? Answer only yes or no….Does your make believe imaginary invisible undetectable “god” thing KNOW your future as he KNEW you “before you were born” as is claimed in your deranged book? YES OR NO…nothing more, just yes or no?

    You MUST answer YES or you are denying the book your death cult is built upon..the very word of your make believe deity

    Since you MUST answer yes then you can NOT have “free will” can you?

    Your rationalization is RIDICULOUS! LOL

    FACT…if your deity KNOWS your future you are powerless to alter it via any choice. If you can alter it then your deity doesn’t know your future and is therefore not all knowing…is he?

    Try thinking…it won’t hurt much

    • J.

      Yes.

      • pud

        There ya go…now join the rational world and abandon the superstitious death cult you, in your ignorance and fear, belong to

  • Susan Jane Elohim

    I am so glad you are still around Pastor Wellman. When it got quiet on here I was worried about you. pud should be worried about you too as you are her best friend and pray for her soul and have a lot of other people praying for her too placing pud under God’s protection.

    I really appreciate a godly person giving people God’s counsel on the Internet. I don’t know why anyone wants to challenge godly good counsel but a lot of reckless people do.

    Have a great day, Pastor. Hope God blesses you and your’s mightily because you have been so faithful to Him.

    • Jack Wellman

      You are so encouraging my friend. It is all about Him (Psalm 115:1) for what do any of us have without God (1 Cor 4:7), but I appreciate your kindness.

      • Susan Jane Elohim

        Psalm 115:1, New American Standard Bible

        Not to us, O Lord, not to us,
        But to Your name give glory
        Because of Your lovingkindness, because of Your [a]truth.

        1 Corinthians 4:7 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

        7 For who regards you as superior? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

        • So you want to give glory to Yahweh because of his lovingkindness. Isn’t he the one who commanded the murder of the Canaanite children and babies and then, about 400 years later, commanded the murder of the Amalekite children and babies. You want to praise this butcher.

      • pud

        Demonstrate that any “him” exists. Quoting from the cult manual isn’t cutting it.

    • pud

      What’s that? I have this strange tingling sensation! Oh, nevermind…just gas.

  • Jack Wellman

    Keep praying for Pud as she is ashamed to even use her real name. I pray she is saved because there we were if not by the grace of God.

    • Maltnothops

      Why do you say that shame is the reason pud uses a pseudonym? I’ve seen nothing to suggest that is the case. Do you also think commenters J., Guestie, and Sarah Jane Elohim are ashamed?

      • kyuss

        whoa, whoa, whoa! you’re not asking Jack to be logical and consistent are you? He’s a christian, after all!

  • So Susan Jane Elohim has deleted all her posts. She’s done this several times under different monikers. Is she so ashamed of what she has written or has she changed her mind? Is she now an atheist?