And now Newt’s turn

And now Newt’s turn November 14, 2011

Here is the pattern:  A Republican presidential candidate rises to the top as the alternative to Mitt Romney.  Whereupon he or she gets knocked off the pedestal.  Now it is Newt Gingrich’s turn:

Two polls out Friday show former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s campaign gaining traction. And both polls show there’s plenty of room for the race to change dramatically: 17% of respondents are undecided.

Newt Gingrich talks to a breakfast crowd during a campaign stop at the Circle Restaurant , Friday, in Epson, N.H. (AP Photo/Jim Cole)

A McClatchy-Marist poll of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents finds that Mitt Romney’s poll numbers remain steady – he generally garners the support of about a quarter of the Republican and Republican-leaning voters. That puts him in the lead, with Mr. Gingrich in second and former front-runner Herman Cain close behind.

By the numbers: Mr. Romney, 23%; Mr. Gingrich, 19%; Mr. Cain, 17%;Texas Rep. Ron Paul 10%; Texas Gov. Rick Perry, 8%, and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, 5%. Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum got 1% apiece.

“Romney is still where he’s been. It’s fair to say this is a battle for the anybody-but-Romney candidate,” said Lee M. Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College. “Gingrich has now begun his 15 days of fame. Whether he is able to maintain that, as others have fallen, is the question. He may be the only one standing when this is all said and done.”

via Polls: Gingrich Grows on GOP Voters – Washington Wire – WSJ.

Gingrich has his own womanizing baggage, but he doesn’t have brain freezes.  Would you consider him?

Notice that if you add up the percentages for all of the non-Romney candidates, the total comes to far more than Romney’s consistent 20-something percent.

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  • Dan

    As long as there is a candidate in the race whose main negative is his low polling, I will support him. I support Rick Santorum, whose conservative record surpasses Newt Gingrich’s.

    Santorum lives his values. I hope Newt is now living those values and take him at his word that he has repented. Nevertheless, I prefer the man who has lived those values throughout his life.

    Further, Newt lost his position when fellow Republicans targeted Newt as an impediment to the conservative agenda. Santorum lost his position because the Democrats targeted him as an impediment to the liberal agenda.

    Santorum may not get his chance to be the anti-Romney candidate, but it won’t be because I haven’t supported him.

  • Dan

    As long as there is a candidate in the race whose main negative is his low polling, I will support him. I support Rick Santorum, whose conservative record surpasses Newt Gingrich’s.

    Santorum lives his values. I hope Newt is now living those values and take him at his word that he has repented. Nevertheless, I prefer the man who has lived those values throughout his life.

    Further, Newt lost his position when fellow Republicans targeted Newt as an impediment to the conservative agenda. Santorum lost his position because the Democrats targeted him as an impediment to the liberal agenda.

    Santorum may not get his chance to be the anti-Romney candidate, but it won’t be because I haven’t supported him.

  • Michael B.

    He’s a bright guy, and he’s got that going for him. I’d far prefer him over a Perry, Bachmann, Cain, or Palin.

  • Michael B.

    He’s a bright guy, and he’s got that going for him. I’d far prefer him over a Perry, Bachmann, Cain, or Palin.

  • Renee

    If Newt has repented of his womanizing as he claims, then God has forgiven him. As far as his sins against conservatism, conservatives are far less forgiving. He may bark loud, but I am wary that his occasional left leanings come from a desire to be loved, which is a dangerous temptation and suggests he lacks tenacity. Still, I would vote for him over Mitt who is not ashamed to lie and smile and lie again.

  • Renee

    If Newt has repented of his womanizing as he claims, then God has forgiven him. As far as his sins against conservatism, conservatives are far less forgiving. He may bark loud, but I am wary that his occasional left leanings come from a desire to be loved, which is a dangerous temptation and suggests he lacks tenacity. Still, I would vote for him over Mitt who is not ashamed to lie and smile and lie again.

  • Jonathan

    Well, maybe at least Newt’s skeletons are all out of the closet.

    I think he’d make a great VP.

  • Jonathan

    Well, maybe at least Newt’s skeletons are all out of the closet.

    I think he’d make a great VP.

  • Greg Smith

    I have now been on Newt’s bandwagon for a couple of months. He is the best of the current crop. And let’s face it, it would be worth it to give him the nomination just to see him debate Obama.

  • Greg Smith

    I have now been on Newt’s bandwagon for a couple of months. He is the best of the current crop. And let’s face it, it would be worth it to give him the nomination just to see him debate Obama.

  • Joe

    Dan said,” Nevertheless, I prefer the man who has lived those values throughout his life.”

    Dan – Great, me too. When did Jesus announce he was seeking the nomination? I remember reading somewhere that all have fallen short …

  • Joe

    Dan said,” Nevertheless, I prefer the man who has lived those values throughout his life.”

    Dan – Great, me too. When did Jesus announce he was seeking the nomination? I remember reading somewhere that all have fallen short …

  • Dan

    Joe #6 –

    Sure. All have fallen short. Does that speak to the fact that there are some men more susceptible to disloyalty than others? I don’t doubt that every candidate is a sinner. Are you saying that every candidate is a repeat adulterer and/or disloyal in a public way? Have we gotten this cynical in American politics? (And I write this as someone who is himself fairly cynical.)

    Anyway, the public morality is an issue, but not nearly the only reason I see Santorum as superior to Gingrich.

  • Dan

    Joe #6 –

    Sure. All have fallen short. Does that speak to the fact that there are some men more susceptible to disloyalty than others? I don’t doubt that every candidate is a sinner. Are you saying that every candidate is a repeat adulterer and/or disloyal in a public way? Have we gotten this cynical in American politics? (And I write this as someone who is himself fairly cynical.)

    Anyway, the public morality is an issue, but not nearly the only reason I see Santorum as superior to Gingrich.

  • I watched my first debate on Saturday night. I was impressed with how Newt handled himself there, far more impressive than I had previously given him credit for. I do think he can do it. I’m not sure if I’m sold yet, and I still like Cain.

  • I watched my first debate on Saturday night. I was impressed with how Newt handled himself there, far more impressive than I had previously given him credit for. I do think he can do it. I’m not sure if I’m sold yet, and I still like Cain.

  • And in response to Dan, I think I agree with Joe a bit here. It almost makes me trust Newt more, knowing he has some baggage. I can’t relate to cardboard cut outs. Rick Santorum came off that way every bit as much as Mitt did on Saturday night. I suppose it’s more I can relate to the guy who has baggage, to the guy who has had to be on his knees begging forgiveness. I tend to think that men like that learn something in the experience.

  • And in response to Dan, I think I agree with Joe a bit here. It almost makes me trust Newt more, knowing he has some baggage. I can’t relate to cardboard cut outs. Rick Santorum came off that way every bit as much as Mitt did on Saturday night. I suppose it’s more I can relate to the guy who has baggage, to the guy who has had to be on his knees begging forgiveness. I tend to think that men like that learn something in the experience.

  • Dan

    Bror Erickson #9

    Interesting thought, but… I think you’re making two assumptions few if any of us can know. You are assuming Newt has learned from his experience (when he didn’t learn before). It is significant to me that Newt’s lack of discipline has bitten him not just once, but repeatedly.

    You are also assuming that Santorum’s public persona in a policy debate reflects his spiritual experiences. If you want to see a more humble Santorum, I recommend watching his on-line portion of the Fox News Center Seat.

    Here’s the larger question for me in response to what you say. I don’t disagree that humility is necessary for wisdom. What I wonder is what we are looking for in a public leader? Do we want a leader who falls and shows the way of repentance? Or is it better for a nation and a culture to have leaders who are able to live without falling publicly?

  • Dan

    Bror Erickson #9

    Interesting thought, but… I think you’re making two assumptions few if any of us can know. You are assuming Newt has learned from his experience (when he didn’t learn before). It is significant to me that Newt’s lack of discipline has bitten him not just once, but repeatedly.

    You are also assuming that Santorum’s public persona in a policy debate reflects his spiritual experiences. If you want to see a more humble Santorum, I recommend watching his on-line portion of the Fox News Center Seat.

    Here’s the larger question for me in response to what you say. I don’t disagree that humility is necessary for wisdom. What I wonder is what we are looking for in a public leader? Do we want a leader who falls and shows the way of repentance? Or is it better for a nation and a culture to have leaders who are able to live without falling publicly?

  • –helen

    A political topic, (on these political characters esp.) following one on snake handling, tickles my funnybone!

  • –helen

    A political topic, (on these political characters esp.) following one on snake handling, tickles my funnybone!

  • HistoryProfBrad

    Sadly, I do not think that Gingrich has a chance at getting the nomination, and even if he did, his baggage will prevent him from winning the general election. Based on what I have witnessed thusfar, I think Obama is likely to win again. Like it or not, he has the majority of the mass media on his side, the GOP field is weak at best (especially if Romney gets the nod), and I really don’t see the masses turning out just to vote Obama out. If anything, this will be a low turnout election, which I think favors the incumbent…or at least that has been the historical trend. I could be wrong. 🙂

  • HistoryProfBrad

    Sadly, I do not think that Gingrich has a chance at getting the nomination, and even if he did, his baggage will prevent him from winning the general election. Based on what I have witnessed thusfar, I think Obama is likely to win again. Like it or not, he has the majority of the mass media on his side, the GOP field is weak at best (especially if Romney gets the nod), and I really don’t see the masses turning out just to vote Obama out. If anything, this will be a low turnout election, which I think favors the incumbent…or at least that has been the historical trend. I could be wrong. 🙂

  • HistoryProfBrad

    I want to clarify that I think that Gingrich is a smart guy. The problem here is that he was pretty much a punch line when he was Speaker of the House back in the 90s. Compound that with his own personal baggage (even if he has repented and moved past it) will haunt him with unforgiving types on the Right and with those who rejoice in pointing out hypocrisy on the Left. Like it or not, how the mass media portrays you is more important than anything else.

  • HistoryProfBrad

    I want to clarify that I think that Gingrich is a smart guy. The problem here is that he was pretty much a punch line when he was Speaker of the House back in the 90s. Compound that with his own personal baggage (even if he has repented and moved past it) will haunt him with unforgiving types on the Right and with those who rejoice in pointing out hypocrisy on the Left. Like it or not, how the mass media portrays you is more important than anything else.

  • I hear you HistoryProfBrad, I hear you. It is too bad. Because I kind of like Newt. And I’m afraid I may have to abstain from voting this election as a conscientious objector.

  • I hear you HistoryProfBrad, I hear you. It is too bad. Because I kind of like Newt. And I’m afraid I may have to abstain from voting this election as a conscientious objector.

  • Dan @ 10,
    I know nothing of santorums “spiritual” experiences. Perhaps you can forgive me for using language that overlaps into the spiritual. I merely find the guy to be the type of hall monitoring personality I have a hard time appreciating in a person.
    As for your larger question, I think a person who does not “fall” has usually fallen a lot further than the person who has fallen, and it shows in a personality cut out of cardboard.

  • Dan @ 10,
    I know nothing of santorums “spiritual” experiences. Perhaps you can forgive me for using language that overlaps into the spiritual. I merely find the guy to be the type of hall monitoring personality I have a hard time appreciating in a person.
    As for your larger question, I think a person who does not “fall” has usually fallen a lot further than the person who has fallen, and it shows in a personality cut out of cardboard.

  • I see no evidence of Newt’s repentance. The last time I heard him comment on his womanizing, which was a few months ago, he blamed it on the pressure of serving his country in Congress. Even if he has repented, there is a distiction to be made between forgiveness and trust. If one commits financial crimes, that one can be forgiven by God and the Church, yet they should not afterward be given a position of trust where finances are involved. A person who abuses children can be forgiven ,but must not be entrusted with any activity involving children. When Clinton ran and served as President, many conservatives, religious or non-religious, declared that ones private life was a test of ones trustworthiness to hold public office. To support Newt over candidates like Santorum, who I support, would be hypocritical and discredit conservatives who would make that argument in the future against candidates like Clinton.

  • I see no evidence of Newt’s repentance. The last time I heard him comment on his womanizing, which was a few months ago, he blamed it on the pressure of serving his country in Congress. Even if he has repented, there is a distiction to be made between forgiveness and trust. If one commits financial crimes, that one can be forgiven by God and the Church, yet they should not afterward be given a position of trust where finances are involved. A person who abuses children can be forgiven ,but must not be entrusted with any activity involving children. When Clinton ran and served as President, many conservatives, religious or non-religious, declared that ones private life was a test of ones trustworthiness to hold public office. To support Newt over candidates like Santorum, who I support, would be hypocritical and discredit conservatives who would make that argument in the future against candidates like Clinton.

  • JunkerGeorg

    Newt is a great speaker, but he’s also an opportunist–I question how trustworthy he is. If policy views were pancakes, then Newt has flip-flopped more times than Aunt Jemima.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/11/newt-gingrich-flip-flops.html

  • JunkerGeorg

    Newt is a great speaker, but he’s also an opportunist–I question how trustworthy he is. If policy views were pancakes, then Newt has flip-flopped more times than Aunt Jemima.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/11/newt-gingrich-flip-flops.html