Podcast Interview at Homebrewed Christianity on (what else?) My Book on Adam

Podcast Interview at Homebrewed Christianity on (what else?) My Book on Adam March 12, 2012

A short while ago, I was interviewed by the one and only Tripp Fuller over at Homebrewed Christianity on The Evolution of Adam.

The interview is just over an hour long, and in it I make several penetrating and insightful comments that will likely change your life forever, such as, “Thanks, Tripp. It’s great to be here.” and  “Thanks for having me.”


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  • JRT

    Maybe you threw out a few “dude”s as well?

    • peteenns

      I don’t recall any such iteration.

  • it was awesome indeed to have you on the podcast!

    • peteenns

      Thanks, Tripp.

  • Does Tripp do Twittwr???

  • Having already read the book, I think I’ll wait for the transcript (or Peter’s blog summary of the high points). 🙂

  • Mel Duncan

    Dr. Enns, I continue to follow your blog with great interest. Question for you.

    Isn’t it ultimately problematic (as a Christian) to allow discussions about human origins with science/scientist to be primarily guided by materialism. Seems like what you are doing is the equivalent of explaining the glory of NY Yankees baseball and then declaring nothing before television can be used to tell its part of the story, because it’s accounts are unreliable.

    Can’t we be just be unashamed super-naturalists and trust in God’s providence over His story. Why do we need worldly approbation for our faith? Science will always be changing. God doesn’t…right?

    • peteenns

      No one here is letting “materialism” guide the discussion anymore than materialism guides our knowledge of the earth as old, round, and revolving around sun. And no one here is ashamed of being supernaturalist, fails to trust God’s providence over his story, or is seeking worldly approbation.

  • Dr. Enns,

    That was a phenomenal interview. You hit the nail on the head in so many areas.

    I thought the question regarding the possibility of Covenant Eschatology (that happened when Paul and the other NT writers expected, soon to them) was especially insightful.

    If you think it is hard to get people to consider evolution try getting them to entertain the idea of a past 2nd coming, aka full-preterism.

    Do you think groups such as biologos.com and other’s that have already questions other areas of tradition are willing to explore eschatology in a new light?


    • Norman


      Dealing with Genesis is a walk in the park compared to applying full Preterism to NT eschatology. Pete got in trouble previously while getting out ahead of his evangelical heritage and some of his scholarly contemporaries. He doesn’t need to continue committing career suicide by noticing the correlation of Genesis to Revelation and messianic fulfillment. It’s one thing to cut off traditional YEC but it’s another to mess with traditional embedded eschatological formulations that are built on the same hermeneutics as YEC is in Genesis.

      I think it’s going to be best for us amateurs to run with these more difficult and unsettling issues than to expect current scholars to jeopardize their careers as Pete has already done once before. We’re out of reach of the heretic hunters by and large and therefore our scholarly freedom is much less restricted than theirs and our losses are much more manageable in this dynamic period of time. We can cheer them on while they take baby steps while keeping us at a safe distance.

      Essentially though, todays scholars are on the theological slow boat to China because of the nature of embedded traditions and also because of the slow nature of how biblical scholarship works (they may not think they are but it’s hard for them to step back and see it from different eyes). You simply can’t read, research and write but you have to spend enormous time and energy documenting your scholarship for the right scholarly crowd. If you don’t play that game you are simply not a scholar in the eyes of the community and probably rightfully so to some extent. You may know a lot but if you haven’t come up the tried and true way then you are not taken seriously. Amateurs however with todays tools at our disposal can discover things that the scholarly world will take years to validate so I guess I’m saying I’m glad I’m an amateur blessed with a lot more freedom to examine every angle and not have to worry about feeding my family. That’s a tough spot to be in for any generation of Biblical scholar: at least they don’t burn too many of them at the stake nowadays.

      I find Pete to be much more open minded and approachable than just about any scholar and I actually see him moving beyond some of his buddies. So I give him high marks because I’m not sure I would have his courage if I were walking in his shoes. Doesn’t mean I wish he could move a little faster but I’ll take what we can get considering the process that constrains.

      Besides I want to especially give Pete Kudos for what he is attempting to do with educating younger Christians so they can develop critical thinking skills so that when they leave home and enter college they can stand on their own and not leave their faith Now that’s putting your scholarship to work that can actually help speed up the slow boat process.


      • Norm,

        I really appreciate your words. I couldn’t agree more on so many levels.

        I have tremendous respect for Mr. Enns. I worshipped at a conservative OPC church for a while. They were outspoken YEC, and more than once Mr. Enns was the central focus of “hell, fire and brimstone” sermons. It was hard losing all my friends from that church because I was “compromised,” but it didn’t affect my income, etc.

        I can’t imagine what Mr. Enns has gone through.


        • peteenns

          Thanks, Micah (and Norm). The accusations don’t bother me. Consider the source. As for income and other material effects, God has led me on a journey I never would have chosen for myself but that, in the end (as usual) is better than I could have hoped or imagined. Give us this day…..

          • Norman


            So glad to hear you are OK and especially since it will reflect and strengthen you and your families’ dependency upon God. I started my own business 17 years ago right when my daughter started College at Baylor and then on to Law school. Then my son followed at another private university (Abilene Christian) and completed his masters. I didn’t know how the journey was going to work out but somehow God miraculously provided. You can never take that faith walk away from our family as evidence of a providential and caring God. Having to depend on God and being sustained in ways we don’t imagine is one of the great blessings of stepping out and faith and following our convictions. Sometimes God rescues us in spite of ourselves. 😉
            And in the process builds our faith.

          • peteenns

            Wonderful, Norman. So… can I borrow some money?

          • Norman

            Na Pete, I said we were blessed not rich. 🙂

          • peteenns

            I tried.

  • alastairblake

    thanks for your thoughts on Adam and origins….. i appreciate it. I imagine there could be tons of flack for it…. thanks!