The Greens of Hobby Lobby: One Family with Courage is a Majority

The Greens of Hobby Lobby: One Family with Courage is a Majority June 30, 2014

 

There is no getting around the fact that Jesus offends some people. Nevertheless, He is too important in my life for me to cower in fear of mentioning His name. David Green, owner, founder Hobby Lobby

The Green Family (who are Okies, by the way) risked everything they had worked for all their lives.

They put everything but their lives on the line by refusing to accede to the HHS Mandate’s requirement that they pay for insurance coverage for abortifacient drugs. The Greens, who are Southern Baptists, already provided insurance coverage for contraceptives for their employees.

But they would not be participants in the evil of abortion. It conflicted with their faith in Jesus Christ.

So, they took a stand that was, in terms of business, totally stupid. They refused to abide by the HHS Mandate. What’s more, they put the name of their company, which they had built themselves from a $600 dollar investment, on a lawsuit.

This wasn’t a roll of the dice. It was an act of faith. The lawsuit was turned back, then resurrected in other rulings. When it was first turned down, the Greens said they would not abide by the Mandate, even if it meant paying millions of dollars a day in fines to the government.

This was not grandstanding. It was a reality of their lives at that time. They were facing ruinous fines for following Christ. It would most likely have put them out of business.

Another court overturned the earlier ruling and they were granted a stay.

Their lawsuit made it’s way to the Supreme Court, and today, the Court ruled that the Green family, as well as other owners of privately-held corporations, are exempt from the contraceptive portion of the HHS Mandate.

I’ve been watching and reading a bit of the reaction to the news. It’s totally predictable claptrap about how this ruling allows corporations not to follow “the law” and how it “endangers women’s health.”

My reaction to this is give me a break. First, the Supreme Court’s ruling is the law, which is something the HHS Mandate has never been.

The HHS Mandate is an agency rule which has the force of law. It was never passed by elected officials. It was created by an appointed committee. To call this thing a law violates the underlying principles of government by representation on which this nation was founded.

Second, women’s health is not endangered by not being able to get insurance coverage for abortifacients. What endangers women’s health is allowing things like the morning after pill to be put on counters where everyone can buy and use them as many times a month as they want. The health consequences of using the morning after pill for birth control could be terrible for women’s health.

Also, as I just said, the stuff is available over the counter. If a woman uses it the way it’s intended, it would be a once in a lifetime deal. If they are using it repeatedly, they are endangering their health. Period.

I’ve read all sorts of comments attacking this ruling, but I think the ruling is wonderful.

It puts a couple of teeth back into what has rapidly been becoming a toothless concept of religious liberty in this country. The government — the government — does not have any business requiring people to violate their faith under threat of government penalties. The government also does not have any business passing draconian agency regulations that infringe on American liberties by the fiat of a hand-selected back-room committee and calling it “law.”

The Green family saved our First Amendment freedoms today.

They did it as an act of faith in which they put their entire life’s work on the line based entirely on their faith in Jesus Christ.

May their tribe increase.

Our family is overjoyed by the Supreme Court’s decision. Today the nation’s highest court has re-affirmed the vital importance of religious liberty as one of our country’s founding principles. The Court’s decision is a victory, not just for our family business, but for all who seek to live out their faith. We are grateful to God and to those who have supported us on this difficult journey. Barbara Green, co-founder/owner of Hobby Lobby

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51 responses to “The Greens of Hobby Lobby: One Family with Courage is a Majority”

  1. “…we shall not flag or fail. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing strength and growing confidence in the air – we shall defend our island – whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight on the streets, and in the fields; we shall fight on the hills; we shall NEVER surrender. And even if – which I do not for a moment believe – this island, or a large part of it, were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British fleet, would carry on the struggle…”
    The voice of the brave throughout the centuries.

  2. If this had been any organization but Hobby Lobby, I’d agree with you.
    But as it is, they buy their goods directly from China, which is one of the most pro-abortion countries in existence.The family is incredible hypocrites by getting their goods to sell at the expense of female workers overseas, while championing the rights of women stateside.

    • That is an incredibly wrong headed comment. The people of China should not be punished with loss of jobs because their government has odiious policies. There is no evidence at all that most of the goods Hobby Lobby sells comes from China. Like almost every other business in the United States, they do business with China. You are not objecting to any of those businesses. only Hobby Lobby

      • Don’t tell a leftist Christian this. (They’re too concerned with anti-fracking measures to worry about mass baby murder.)

          • You’re not at all troubled by the apathy of many Christians toward what most certainly is mass baby murder?

              • You stop. I have to believe that God would rather we hurt the feelings of pro-abortion “Christians” than leave the unborn to be slaughtered without making a peep about it. I would also put forth to you that people who support abortion aren’t Christians because their true master is Satan.

                • I’m going to allow this but you’re being foolish. Hurting people’s feelings does not stop abortion. Attacking these other Christians weakens the body of Christ at the same time that it hardens them in their position.

                  Belligerence is not righteousness. Rudeness is not standing for what you believe. However, both belligerence and rudeness are strong temptations for people in the culture wars. I’ve been tempted this way myself, many times.

                  It takes a lot of guts to just stay the course about pro life and not yield to these temptations.

                  We will never convert anyone by attacking them. We just make them more entrenched in their positions.

                  • I’ve been thinking about this reply, and I’m not sure I entirely agree with myself.

                    We do have to disagree with other Christians from time to time, and Christians who say or imply that abortion. same sex marriage or corporatism are what Christ taught must be corrected. On the other hand, attacking these people themselves is a bad business. It leads to bitterness and makes impossible to convert them.

    • As the United States is also becoming a pro-abortion country, I suppose Hobby Lobby shouldn’t buy anything made here either.

      • Chine abortion are higher then USA .What most sad is Catholics fail to really comprehend Jesus went to the cross in our place .He did this to offer us the free gift of forgiveness and assurance of heaven .Not like catholic and many other groups who think they can merit their own salvation by doing works .They place a burden on people that they can never over come . . Ephesians 2:8-9
        8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 1 John 1 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. You can have absolute assurance of heaven if you simply do that scripture says .Ask Jesus and he will forgive ALL and Cleanse you .. and some will quote James but they twist scripture out of context .James is speaking to those already saved forgiven and heaven bound .He telling Christians how to know you are a true Christians .James is doing the example of 2 Corinthians 13 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you–unless, of course, you fail the test? The Catholicism in their own words says your damned if you think your sin are forgiven without having to do works and purgatory .Canon 30: “If any one saith, that, after the grace of Justification has been received, to every penitent sinner the guilt is remitted, and the debt of eternal punishment is blotted out in such wise, that there remains not any debt of temporal punishment to be discharged either in this world, or in the next in Purgatory, before the entrance to the kingdom of heaven can be opened (to him); let him be anathema.” means damned …
        What the bible says “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,” (Rom. 5:1).
        “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.” (Col. 2:13-14)next works salvation . Canon 24: “If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema.”
        What the bible says “O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?” (Gal. 3:1-3).
        “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.” (Gal. 5:1-3).1 john 1 9 If we confess our sins, Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness…. Folks no need for the blasphemy of Purgatory. Lastly the catholic church as never recanted on the Council of Trent: Canons on Justification. Jesus gives forgiveness as a free gift because He went to the cross and won your a pardon. Being catholic does not gain you anything .Doing works does not gain you anything,but are the out sign to the world that you are a biblical true christian .It’s not maybe forgiven but absolute forgiven an assured eternal life in heaven ! Question Are you good person ? http://www.goodpersontest.com/test/good/?path=start_good I dare you to try this test 🙂 Are you able to complete it ? How did you score ?

    • You enjoy the protection of the American state–one of the greatest murderers in the history of the world, responsible for the murder of over one hundred million (mostly poor and/or black) babies.
      How do you sleep at night?!

    • Isn’t int interesting that the moment this little family-owned company managed to survive the murderous attentions of the Obama administration, up pop people like you to retail factoids and fables to their discredit. You have been used and can’t even see it.

  3. The HHS mandate was completely a creature of the Obama administration and its ideology.

    The law passed by congress did NOT include any mandate for companies to provide contraceptives. Instead, it contained a provision saying that companies must provide “preventive care”. Preventive care – to the unideological person – means screening for cancer, for diabetes, etc so that a person knows earlier that they have a disease, so it can be treated early.

    However, the Obama administration decided to pretend that “preventive care” also meant free contraceptives for everyone. This is a clear departure from the law, not an attempt to implement it fairly.

    • The President lied to Congressman Stupak and the House Democrats about his intentions. Congressman Stupak has said so repeatedly. The HHS Mandate was a deliberate reversal of promises the president had made both to the American public and to members of Congress when he was asking them to vote for the Affordable Health Care Act.

      • And he lied to Cardinal Dolan, just to put a cherry on top of your nice summary of the history.

        Will this sour some Catholics to executive promises that it’ll all work out just fine in the rule-writing when we’re inevitably wooed to support the Next Great Thing Act?

        • One thing I have learned in fifty-two mostly pointless years is to shun the leader who promises to be a unifier, to bring harmony, or to be a leader for all citizens. What they mean, every time, is that they intend to eliminate disagreement, by fair means or foul. The person who worships harmony as a value is a person who can’t cope with disagreement and is not able or willing to leave those who disagree with him alone. From the moment President Obama promised to be a unifier, people should have looked at him with suspicion.

        • What truly sad thing is Catholics fail to really comprehend Jesus went to the cross in our place .He did this to offer us the free gift of forgiveness and assurance of heaven .Not like catholic and many other groups who think they can merit their own salvation by doing works .They place a burden on people that they can never over come . . Ephesians 2:8-9
          8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 1 John 1 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. You can have absolute assurance of heaven if you simply do that scripture says .Ask Jesus and he will forgive ALL and Cleanse you .. and some will quote James but they twist scripture out of context .James is speaking to those already saved forgiven and heaven bound .He telling Christians how to know you are a true Christians .James is doing the example of 2 Corinthians 13 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you–unless, of course, you fail the test? The Catholicism in their own words says your damned if you think your sin are forgiven without having to do works and purgatory .Canon 30: “If any one saith, that, after the grace of Justification has been received, to every penitent sinner the guilt is remitted, and the debt of eternal punishment is blotted out in such wise, that there remains not any debt of temporal punishment to be discharged either in this world, or in the next in Purgatory, before the entrance to the kingdom of heaven can be opened (to him); let him be anathema.” means damned …
          What the bible says “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,” (Rom. 5:1).
          “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.” (Col. 2:13-14)next works salvation . Canon 24: “If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema.”
          What the bible says “O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?” (Gal. 3:1-3).
          “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.” (Gal. 5:1-3).1 john 1 9 If we confess our sins, Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness…. Folks no need for the blasphemy of Purgatory. Lastly the catholic church as never recanted on the Council of Trent: Canons on Justification. Jesus gives forgiveness as a free gift because He went to the cross and won your a pardon. Being catholic does not gain you anything .Doing works does not gain you anything,but are the out sign to the world that you are a biblical true christian .It’s not maybe forgiven but absolute forgiven an assured eternal life in heaven ! Question Are you good person ? http://www.goodpersontest.com/test/good/?path=start_good I dare you to try this test 🙂 Are you able to complete it ? How did you score ?

          • Daniel, your comments are too long. I’m going to allow the comment because it’s not an attack on the Church so much as it is a misunderstanding of what the Catholic Church teaches. I’ll leave discussing this with you to other commenters.

      • It is difficult, though, to take seriously the idea that Stupak, the House Democrats, and Cardinal Dolan were really fooled by Obama.

        • Some people, alas, still thought that the word of the President of the United States of America was worth something. Of course, a man less naive than Bart Stupak – and less vulnerable to outside pressure – would have measured the President’s acts against his words, but in general I tend to think that those who tell lies are guiltier than those who believe them.

  4. It feels like forever since some good news came out of WashDC, so I’m going to just enjoy it for today and not bother reading all the nasty end-of-the-world comments put out by those who think the constitution guarantees free stuff to people and/or govt. thugs can tell people when and how their personal convictions may be expressed when no longer en vogue.
    Oh, and if I were you, I’d be a proud Okie, too. 😉

  5. “But they would not be participants in the evil of abortion. It conflicted with their faith in Jesus Christ.”

    Is this true when most of what they sell comes from China?

    I’m glad the Court ruled as they did but find it hard to swallow that the Greens are all sweetness and light. Especially when they didn’t provide health coverage for their employees until the law made them.

    • Citation please. It is my understanding that Hobby Lobby has provided health care for their full time employees for years.

    • Oh, my goodness. Hobby Lobby is one of the few businesses left that sell stuff made in China!?!??! Shame on them. (eyeroll) Hobby Lobby, like most large businesses, sell people what they want – which is cheap stuff.

  6. We really need to expose them EVERY time they say they’re defending women’s health by pumping them full of chemicals and murdering babies in their wombs.

    • It’s your money. Which is one of the many points. The government didn’t make you do it.

      Me, I’m going shopping at Hobby Lobby. 🙂

    • if that was the only thing people on your side saw fit to do, there would be no problem. Check Mme Hamilton’s latest post.

  7. The Kennedys normalized Catholic laity in the American political process and that’s a good thing. While Catholics are, should and will always be represented in all branches of our government, Thomas. Scalia, Alito and Roberts are making sure that there will never be another ortho/trad Catholic on the Supreme Court.

  8. The name of Jesus doesn’t offend people, it’s the so called Christians, like the Greens, who want to force their believes on everyone else that offends. They don’t even understand science, so I guess that they’re not so intelligent, so sad. Anyway, the rest of America IS intelligent, and we’ll be boycotting their stupid crafts store, maybe then they will move to China, where all their product comes from and can understand what REAL persecution is. Good riddance to cult following breeders like these!

      • You mean a statement that’s filled with facts and logic? Yeah, I guess that would offend you catholic wing nuts, wouldn’t it?

        • “… it’s the so called Christians, like the Greens, who want to force their believes on everyone else that offends. They don’t even understand science, so I guess that they’re not so intelligent, so sad. Anyway, the rest of America IS intelligent, and we’ll be boycotting their stupid crafts store, maybe then they will move to China, where all their product comes from and can understand what REAL persecution is. Good riddance to cult following breeders like these!”

          As you Americans are so fond of suing each other, I suggest you sue your elementary school, high school, and any college you may have wasted time at. They evidently failed to teach you what facts and logic are, since you seem to think that the above screed contains them.

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    I am really happy that the Hobby Lobby won the case. It is guided by the Almighty because they only fight for what is right.

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