God Will Never Abandon the Church

Jenny Williams at the Call & Response blog offers this post on the future of mainline denominations. Consider her insights a preview of what’s to come next week as we present a compelling forum on the Future of Mainline Protestantism here at Patheos.

I once heard Tony Campolo say, er, yell, that God will never abandon the church. Of course he’s right. The church universal is the bride of Christ, bound to him in mystical union. God will never leave us.

But what path are denominations on? Like you, I’m no fortune teller, but I can share with you some of my observations. First, I see vitality among young Christians. They want to be deeply committed to Christ and the church and give their WHOLE lives to God. The traditional structure of mainline churches on the whole doesn’t seem to be offering opportunities for them to do that. Some find total commitment through participation in house churches or intentional Christian communities — both of which are unfortunately foreign to the current mainline. Perhaps with some creative thinking relationships could be forged between these forms of discipleship and the mainline church, but I don’t see this happening.

One of the reasons denominations die is that we pastors are expected to spend a disproportionate amount of our time serving as chaplains. The membership of my own denomination is aging. I spend significantly more time with very elderly people than I do with anyone under 50. I am not intending to disparage these saints of the church or say that vitality only exists in young people. That the pastor is the one who is expected to visit is one example of the problem we have gotten ourselves into. Baptism, not ordination, is the authorization for ministry.

We are recovering from decades of passivity in the church. We forgot somehow that being a good Christian was more than showing up at church on Sunday and belonging to the right civic organizations. We forgot that we need to develop Christians — to make disciples out of the people who were already in the building! Given this forgetfulness, how is it realistic to expect these same pew-sitters (and their progeny) to go into the world to make disciples? Jesus tells us the disciples to witness to what they have seen. In general, what these folks have seen is what people wore to church on Sunday, not the power of the resurrected Christ. No wonder we’re dying.

So really it doesn’t matter to me if mainline denominations continue to exist in their present form. Their present form seems destined for death.

Since you probably don’t know me, let me make some disclaimers about that statement. I love the United Methodist tradition. I was born to very committed UM parents and grandparents. I was baptized into the UMC when I was 5 weeks old. I was the perfect picture of an “active” UM youth: confirmed at age 12, went to all the Conference youth events, went on to graduate from a United Methodist seminary. I serve now in UM churches. I can never envision myself abandoning my Wesleyan theological heritage. I love being part of a connectional church.

Having given you my Pauline curriculum vitae, let me say this: being part of the UMC is not what is ultimately important to me. I want to be part of Christ’s body, the church, which proclaims Jesus and him crucified. This is the church that reared me. I want to give back to that church joyfully, and plan to do all I can to help her to be faithful. But I don’t care if she continues to exist in her present form.

I worry about those who are spurred to the activity of disciple-making by the fear of denominational death. It seems they have missed one of the fundamental meanings of the good news: death is not the end. God brings new life out of death. If our church is so afraid of denominational death that we spend our energies strategizing to avoid it, then we have compromised our witness to the power and sovereignty of God, and we should indeed (and for the sake of Christ) die.

My denomination may get too bureaucratically heavy, toppling over to her death. But God will never abandon the church. He just might resurrect her. She’ll take a new form — recognizable but different. Bearing the wounds and scars of death, but still showing the grace of God.

Jenny Williams is pastor of Wesley United Methodist Church in Kingwood, West Virginia.

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    I agree. Do you have any suggestions as to how the UMC needs to rethink itself and the ministry we do?

    Do we need to change theology? If so what?

    Do we change polity? The “silver bullet” being talked about by some here in the Central Texas Conference is the elimination of guaranteed appointments.

    Do we need to prune back and close churches? Start new ones?

    Do we need to let some of the “connection” go? If so, what parts?

    I think we have a lot of rhetoric about “rethinking church”, but I do not see much change or even specific suggestions to change. Can you share some of your thoughts on this? Thanks!

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    I began to be very unhappy with the Roman Catholic form of government inherited from the Anglican Church. Most of you probably do not know the huge argument that took place over the election of Asbury and Coke as Bishops. If you want a history of really what happened go to http://www.themethodistprotestantchurch.com. and click on the Discipline and go the history. I had on several occaisions tried to find out about the Methodist Protestant Church but was told it was no longer in existance. Another lie. I searched for it on line and found that many of the churches had not joined in the union of 1939. This was possible because each local church is totally in charge of all its own business and owns its own property. They belong to the conference through membership voting to belong and support the conference. My great grandfather left the Methodist Episcopal Church in the early 1800s and became a minister and missionary doctor in the Methodist Protestant Church. (Obituary on line, Dr. A. A. Keran) There is so much involved I will try to shorten things and say at age 75 I resigned my position as pastor of the UM Churches. Was told to lie by the DS and say that I was not unhappy with the UM Church. She even mailed out a letter stating I would not come back for anything and signed my name to it. Talk about mail fraud! I was totally sick of the abuseing, money grubbing attitude of the UM Church and their gradually killing out all the small churches. I became a pastor with the Methodist Protestant Church and we are building the first Methodist Protestant Church in Oklahoma since 1939, since all of the Methodist Protestant Churches in Oklahoma joined the union.
    The Methodist Protestant Church truly believes John Wesley’s doctrines of Justification and Sanctification. (Sanctification was left out of the Discipline of the Methodist Church of 39 except with some footnotes, and it is still the same in the UM Church,take a look!)
    It pains me to see all the good Methodist Christians that are leaving the UM Church and going elsewhere or nowhere at all. I wish they could investigate the Methodist Protestant Church and find as I have that old time Wesleyan doctrine is still alive and Jesus Christ is being preached to those who need salvation. The organization is totally democratic with equal laity and clergy in all voting matters. In fact the largest conference has a layman as the president. If more Methodists would wake up we can still save the Wesleyan concept of the heart warming experience with Jesus Christ and our daily walk with him. The Holy Spirit will take care of the rest!

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    Almost all the religious institutions in the US are declining, or barely holding their own. The Catholic church is holding steady due to immigrants, and the Mormons by birth rates.

    I believe the Methodists are in good company, thinking about what needs to change, and faithfully doing their best in the meantime. And I agree that mainline churches will survive, though they may look very different. So what, Christianity has always evolved to fit the needs of time and place.

    Younger Americans are less “joiners,” and we are very busy with more working hours, two income families, individuals vs. families, and families without children at home. All of these factors affect casual church-goers.

    Christianity has more competition than before, because of our culture’s openess to eastern spirituality and because we have so many interesting immigrants with differing beliefs. Christianity is no longer the accepted cutlural default.

    Finally, the Christian “brand” has been severely damaged by certain trends that receive so much media attention (televangelist scandals, sex scandals, sexual abuse, opposition to gays, identiy with far-right politics, subordination of women, hateful protests at funerals, rejection of divorced and unmarried couples, etc.). For every person who may agree with some of these issues there is another who rejects church because of them.

    In a multi-religious society how we Christians respond to “others” is critical. We keep doing compassion, peace, and justice work quietly because that is just what we do. Eventually this work attracts others to help, and perhaps to reconsider the faith.

    To compare church to business/non-profits, it is fairly common to see organizations reorganize and refocus for positive results when forced to do so by loss of market dominance, new competition, and changing demographics. “Never waste a crisis.” (No, the church is not a business, but some comparisons are apt anyway.)

    My hope is that as churches become smaller and more streamlined we will become more vital and continue to be a witness to the larger community about justice and compassion for all, Christian or any other.

    I was raised with both strong Methodist and Episcopalian roots and today attend a Christian Church-Disciples of Christ. Personally, I have always thought that the Methodist tradition of exchanging pastors frequently and without much local input made it very hard for Methodist churches to build momentum. It also seems as if mediocre pastors were allowed to stay in leadership, while in other denominations they would be given subordinate positions or might exit full-time pastoral employment if they did not prove successful in this demanding task. Don’t get me wrong, I know many exceptional UMC pastors, but as soon as they begin to grow a church they get reassigned. This is terribly stressful for the kids and spouses too. Just my two cents worth.

    May God continue to bless the Methodists! I love you guys.

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