So it seems I’m not very original…

You remember my wager, which I titled “Libby Anne’s Wager“? Apparently Marcus Aurelius said, well, just about exactly the same thing (as in, uncannily so):

Edit 1: It turns out that the above is not a direct quotation, but rather a condensed summary of some of Marcus Aurelius’ thoughts and writings. Many thanks to my observant readers!

Edit 2: Apparently Marcus Aurelius might not have actually said anything like that. Oops! Oh well, whoever said it first, it wasn’t me!

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About Libby Anne

Libby Anne grew up in a large evangelical homeschool family highly involved in the Christian Right. College turned her world upside down, and she is today an atheist, a feminist, and a progressive. She blogs about leaving religion, her experience with the Christian Patriarchy and Quiverfull movements, the detrimental effects of the "purity culture," the contradictions of conservative politics, and the importance of feminism.

  • Incongruous Circumspection

    Looks like reincarnation to me.

  • Paula G V aka Yukimi

    Well, afaik, That quote has been missattributed to Marcus Aurelius, more like no one knows if he actually said that or not, but he said very similar things in at least one of his books, just not exactly that. History buffs please correct me if I’m wrong.

    • John Small Berries

      According to this page, it doesn’t really square with some of the other things he wrote.

  • 1000 Needles

    Did you see this image on the Friendly Atheist recently, perchance?

    I ask because it was posted there along with a hard-to-find disclaimer that the quote was not genuine. I suspected that people would see the image and not see the disclaimer and interpret the post to mean that the quote was legitimate.

  • Dianne

    Seems like good advice to me, whoever said it.

    • Paula G V aka Yukimi


  • Steerpike_Lou

    I agree with that quotation.

    And I’m religious.

    If there are not gods, then of course, the best we can do is be good, kind, just people. If there are gods, then recognizing their existence is not a virtue, and failing to do so is unawareness, not sin.

    But, if there are gods, and they truly are just, and good, and loving–in short, omnibenevolent–then how enriched could our lives be by approaching them by our own paths, with respect for the paths of others?

    This is not an argument for religion, as I believe that anyone who is a good person has god(s) in his/her life, whatever name or lack thereof (s)he chooses to use, but an explanation as to why religion and devoutness can still be worthwhile, because, in all honesty, the last thing on my mind when it comes to my religion is what sort of rewards I’m going to get for it. What I am thinking about is how mind-blowingly awesome it is to be a part of something ancient, something deep, and, most importantly, something that I truly believe gives me a glimpse at the beautiful infinity behind all this.

  • Judy L.

    It doesn’t matter if something was said by a great man or woman, or an unknown man or woman, or attributed to someone who never existed. If something is true it doesn’t matter the source; the value lies in the truth and the insight of the expression, not in the authority of who may have said it.