Gotta love that Colbert is such a Tolkien Geek

Extra points for the C.S. Lewis quote.

I’m hoping Jackson will salvage the disaster of the second movie with the third. We’ll see.

Here’s the trailer:

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  • Mark S. (not for Shea)

    I still haven’t seen the second. I was so disappointed by the first that I haven’t been able to muster the courage to site through the second.

    • Veronica

      I advise you to not even try to see the abomination that was the second Hobbit movie. Stay as far away from it as you can. Much like the first Star Wars trilogy, I wish it had never been filmed. I completely lost my interest in the third part, and don’t plan to waste my time and money to see it.

      • Joe

        But how will we know how the story goes?

        • Veronica

          Actually, it takes much longer to see either of the two Hobbit movies than reading the original book in its entirety.

          • Dan Berger

            Veronica, the movies have departed so far from the book that Joe’s is a legitimate question. My guess is that Hobbit 3 will bear about as much resemblance to The Hobbit as the movie “Starship Troopers” bore to Heinlein’s book.

  • Mariana Baca

    I’m actually hoping the EE version of the second movie has more moments I missed in the second. I in general have more fun with the EE versions anyway — they don’t feel as rushed. But in general I like the first one more, the moment in bilbo’s house was well made.

    • Mark S. (not for Shea)

      I loved the first half hour of the first movie. But things swiftly fell apart, the idiocy culminating in the Benny Hillesque chase scene that made no coherent sense whatsoever.

      • Mariana Baca

        Eh, it wasn’t my favorite part of the movie, but I wouldn’t call it incoherent — it was a chase scene, there isn’t much to that. The lack of physics in the goblin caves bothered me more.

        I wouldn’t have minded the second movie so much if not for the ending, again, too much stretching my disbelief on what is possible.

        But I’m one of those weird people that just enjoys these movies for what they are, and I know most people are not on my side. :/ Oh well.

        • Mark S. (not for Shea)

          It was incoherent. Made no logical sense whatsoever. At least this version is honest about that:

          • Alma Peregrina

            To be fair, ANYTHING looks ridiculous when the Benny Hill song is on.

            When I’m feeling down, I play my regular shoot ’em up videogames, but I mute the original soundtrack and play to the sound of Benny Hill. It’s a hoot and it never fails to cheer me up. :)

      • Dan Berger

        I haven’t liked pretty much anything other than the first movie up through the troll scene, and Riddles in the Dark. The rest was anywhere on a scale from boring to risible.

        Bilbo’s conversation with Smaug was the only lessening of the darkness that was the second movie, and even that was only slightly less black.

  • merkn

    Ah yes, Steve Colbert. A big favorite here. Truth teller. Poker of fun at those awful right wingers. Media friendly Catholic. How about adding: Tax avoider, corrupt Democratic insider, pal of like minded Catholic Andrew Cuomo, actually maybe even paid for by Andrew. From today’s Newsday:

    “Move over, Jimmy Fallon.

    Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo announced last week that New York State will steer $16 million in subsidies to CBS to keep the “Late Show” in Manhattan under its next host, Stephen Colbert.

    The deal is just the latest in a series of lucrative state tax giveaways to the entertainment industry — part of a national trend, even though Cuomo’s own tax reform commission last year suggested that credits for movies and TV don’t really pay for themselves”
    I know its greedy and oncharotable for us right wingers to complain about being overtaxed,, but really. Subsidizing this guy.

    • Joe

      Swell guy. Love watching him. His jabs at the Republicans fills my traditionalist conservative heart with glee.

      • Dave G.

        A view not at all uncommon in our post-modern age.

      • The Deuce

        Also a worshiper of Moloch pretending to be a follower of Christ, and enthusiastic purveyor of the cultural shallowness and filth that has made the Jackson movies what they are. But hey, he sneers at and slanders all the people in the right political tribe.

  • Dave G.

    My boys nailed this whole Hobbit thing. These movies are made for a generation that thinks The Empire Strikes Back was boring and sucked, but Phantom Menace was awesome! Likewise, most kids they know think the LOTR movies are awesome, but the books are again boring at best. Not to mention they were written by a known racist and contain racist elements. So, that’s who Jackson is making these movies for. Go into it with those thoughts.

    • Joe

      He was not a racist. There is plenty of evidence from his letters to prove that. He did not like racialist interpretations of his work, he did not approve of how the British treated “colour”, and referred to the Jews as a gifted people. He most certainly did not like Hitler and his genocidal acts.

      • Dave G.

        I don’t think so either. But dominant narratives are what they are. A few months or so ago, my 16 year old found three separate sites debating the role of Tolkien’s racism, including one by a professor in England ( I just remember the last fellow had other posts about wandering about the English countryside, the rascal). Anyway, none of them debated whether or not Tolkien was a racist. That he was, and his work contained racist elements, was a forgone conclusion. The debate was whether or not it should be a factor in dismissing his works or if racists have their place in the literary history. I think it revolved around some movie or book that came out where the author apparently said something about homosexuality, and it kicked off a debate about whether or not homophobic bigots should have their work condemned or not. This being the age of liberal tolerance and all. Sometimes I think us old timers don’t really grasp how quickly and how radically assumptions are changing among young people today.

        • Jared Clark

          It was probably Ender’s Game. The author wrote an argument against government support for same-sex marriage. This, of course, means he has a burning hatred for all homosexual people.

          • Dave G.

            I think that was it and it caused quite a debate.

    • Tom

      Woah, woah, woah. I’m 20, and no one I know thinks The Empire Strikes Back sucks. Maybe non-Star Wars fans, but that’s it. And I find The Phantom Menace tolerable and and am probably one of the more receptive ones.

      • Dave G.

        They are younger. In their early to mid teens. Plus they reflect polls that show ESB to be the least popular. Like they also say, this is the generation that made Sharknado a phenomenon, as opposed to the generation of the first Star Wars that made JAWS a phenomenon.

        • Tom

          Sharknado’s only a phenomenon because it’s awful, which has been around for quite some time (Ed Wood says hello). I haven’t seen any polls whwith TESB in last place either, but maybe I’ve missed it.

          • Dave G.

            Ed Wood was years later as a phenomenon. Sharknado is now. Of course it’s awful. It’s made to be. And if Reality TV wasn’t a main source of programming, I’d consider it a fluke. Like it or not, we live in an age that tends to center around such things, and old time standards of entertainment (JAWS, Star Wars, LoTR books) are going the way, while blockbusters made today must appeal to an era that prefers CGI plus occasional human interaction.

  • Sherry

    My nickname for the third installment, which I will go see because I’m just that much of a geek at heart, is the battle of Three Orlando Blooms. There’s Orlando Bloom as Legolas, Orlando Bloom look similar too such that you think Orlando Bloom, Bard the Guardsman, and the substitute for the younger generation for Orlando Bloom, Kili the Dwarf.

    • Heather

      That’s great! My friends and I referred to the second movie, among other things, as “Legolas: The Fanfic.”

      I had tremendous amounts of fun watching it. I had been properly warned and prepared to keep my expectations low, and spent it giggling hysterically at the sheer ridiculousness.

  • Catholic pilgrim

    Neato Mosquito! We Catholics need to build a Museum for Tolkien/Chesterton/Lewis in a big city (open for all) as part of the New Evangelization, thumps up if you agree! Catholic Museum of Tolkien/Chesterton/Lewis. Who is with me??

    • Theodore Seeber

      Can’t do it justice in the city. You need about 500 acres in the country. Divide it into thirds, build Narnia, The Shire, and Notting Hill.

      • Catholic pilgrim

        Wow, I couldn’t have planned it any better. Your design sounds so cool! I just came back from a pilgrimage to EWTN studio & its Shrine/Monastery of the Most Blessed Sacrament in Hanceville AL. At EWTN’s Shrine/Monastery, they had the “John Paul II Eucharistic Center” (which was designed for both Non-Catholics & Catholics to learn about the Eucharist in a very interactive way). I was very impressed & left wondering why we don’t build more stuff like that to draw more people into Catholic spirituality, art, music & of course literature/imagination.

  • Dan Berger

    The ComicCon vid isn’t working. Schade!

  • Dan Berger

    John, Paul, George and Ringo on a tandem bicycle. That trailer was bloody awful. Jackson is just dead set on re-making his LOTR trilogy, and is strip-mining the Hobbit to do so.

    • Dave G.

      It makes sense. First, it’s what people want. Forty years ago, JAWS was a pop culture phenomenon. Today, Sharknado is. That’s what the audience wants. Plus, according to Jackson’s pre-Kong interviews, he only did LOTR since he didn’t have time to build a real fantasy world. He wanted to do a swords and sorcery movie, but hadn’t been able to make a captivating world. So he thought of LOTR and thought that would be a good starting point. Everything he has done says he was telling the truth.