Sex Change Surgery is the New Prefrontal Lobotomy and a Trendy Form of Child Mutilation

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What do prefrontal lobotomy and sex change surgery have in common from a scientific viewpoint?

Everything.

How are prefrontal lobotomy and sex change surgery different?

Prefrontal lobotomy was never marketed as a “right” for mentally ill people. 

Prefrontal lobotomy is one of the grand dragons from the stone knives and bear skin beds era of mental health care. Back in the bad old days, doctors had the habit of “treating” people with mental health problems (or sometimes, just behavioral problems) by sticking what was essentially an ice pick through the top of their eye socket and into their brains and swishing it around. 

The result? “Difficult” patients were ever so much nicer now that a big part of the prefrontal lobes of their brains had been disconnected. So … bingo! … doctors had a “cure.” 

Today’s prefrontal lobotomy is to “treat” physically normal, healthy people who suffer from a compulsion to mutilate themselves by cutting off their sex organs with surgery that acts out their compulsive illness and actually does remove their sex organs. The follow-up is to put a cosmetic surgery placebo version of the sex organs of their opposite sex on the wound. This plays into their mental illness rather than treats it. It also subjects them to life-long, massive doses of hormones and permanent mutilation.

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The major difference between the two “treatments” is that sex change surgery is being promoted as a “human right” by people in the LGBT community and has been taken up as a cause by the brain-dead politically correct media. I am talking about the mutilation of physically healthy and normal people. I am not talking about treatments for people who are born with mixed genitalia. Whenever I write about this topic, I get a smattering of comments calling me a few names for having the temerity to say what is obvious to anyone with a shred of intellectual and moral honesty: This is medical malpractice. 

People who suffer from this compulsion are not the beneficiaries of this new trendy. They are its victims. They need real treatment that is based on something approaching science, not politically-motivated mutilation. 

I used this analogy in another post: If I went to a doctor and asked him/her to cut off my healthy legs and replace them with prosthesis, they would call for a psych evaluation. 

Why then do we behave as if a compulsion to cut off one’s genitals is somehow a healthy impulse?

This tawdry business of faux science enabling the mutilation of healthy people has moved into a sinister new arena. As usual, the brain dead trendies in the politically correct press are hyping it as an advance for human rights. 

The new politically correct is to mutilate children with sex change surgeries and massive doses of hormones. A shameful article in the Boston Globe, titled Led by the child who simply knew promoted this horrific form of child abuse for all it was worth. For instance, here’s the summary sell-line that tops the article:

The twin boys were identical in every way but one. Wyatt was a girl to the core, and now lives as one, with the help of a brave, loving family and a path-breaking doctor’s care.

There’s a photo of these twins below the sell line and the caption for the photo reads: “Nicole Maines, 14, her twin brother, Jonas, and their parents have traveled a long, trying road.” 

The article itself adds:

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… now a groundbreaking clinic at Children’s Hospital in Boston – one of the few of its kind in the world – helps families deal with the issues, both emotional and medical, that arise from having a transgender child – one who doesn’t identify with the gender he or she was born into.

The Children’s Hospital Gender Management Services Clinic can, using hormone therapies, halt puberty in transgender children, blocking the development of secondary sexual characteristics – a beard, say, or breasts – that can make the eventual transition to the other gender more difficult, painful, and costly.

Founded in 2007 by endocrinologist Norman Spack and urologist David Diamond, the clinic – known as GeMS and modeled on a Dutch program – is the first pediatric academic program in the Western Hemisphere that evaluates and treats pubescent transgenders. A handful of other pediatric centers in the United States are developing similar programs, some started by former staffers at GeMS.

It was in that clinic, under Spack’s care, that Nicole and her family finally began to have hope for her future. (Read the rest here.) 

 This fine piece of objective journalism won the GLAD Award for Outstanding Newspaper Article for 2012. The GLAD award “honors outstanding media images of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community that inspire change.”  

We have another article from the Mail Online describing how the lesbian parents of an 11-year-old boy are putting him through sex change mutilation. This poor little boy, who has started calling himself Tammy instead of Thomas, is undergoing hormone block treatment by means of a hormone suppressant that is implanted in his upper arm. The purpose of this “treatment” is “to stop him from going through puberty as a boy.” 

Psychiatrists “diagnosed” this little boy with gender identity disorder when he was seven, after he had threatened gender mutilation on himself. I guess no one thought that this might be a mental health problem and that it might, possibly, be caused by his lesbian mothers. Nope. No child abuse here. This is obviously “gender identity disorder,” and the “treatment” is to mutilate this little boy’s body, as well as his psyche. 

From the MailOnline:

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The mothers say that one of the first things Thomas told them when he learned sign language aged three – because of a speech impediment – was, ‘I am a girl’.


At age seven, after threatening genital mutilation on himself, psychiatrists diagnosed Thomas with gender identity disorder. By the age of eight, he began transitioning.


This summer, he started taking hormone-blocking drugs, which will stop him from experiencing puberty.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html#ixzz2StkXJila 
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The two mothers, who were “married” by a rabbi in 1990, insist that their sexuality has nothing to do with this. Which, I would guess, in today’s trendy, politically correct world, settles it. 

When I was first elected for the very first time, back in the dark ages of 1980, a seasoned legislator remarked to me, “There are two groups of people that you will find you can do anything to in this place and no one will stop you: Prisoners and children.” 

Thanks to court interventions, that is no longer as true of prisoners. However, in the case of children it has grown much, much worse. We kill children with impunity right up to the moment of their birth, and sometimes afterwards, as well. We have degraded the public schools into propaganda mills for sexually disturbed people to teach their view of life to the young. We push dangerous contraceptives on young girls. We destroy our children’s homes with divorce. We commodify their lives with designer babies and then harvest the bodies of young women for eggs to keep that cycle going. 

And now, we are pushing the idea that we can submit young children to dangerous, mutilating “sex changes” because, hey, it’s politically correct and you’ll be called a few names if you object to it. 

Ok. Let the name-calling start here. 

Sex change surgery on healthy people is not treatment. It’s medical malpractice. 

Sex change on children is child abuse and child mutilation. Doctors who do it should lose their license to practice medicine and be sent to prison. Parents who push for it should lose custody of their children, and if they go forward with it, they also should be sent to prison. 

No child should be mutilated for politically correctness. 

Call me all the names you want. I don’t care. 

 

 

For further reading, check out Sex Reassignment Surgery for Children? Two Words … CHILD ABUSE

  • Jessica Hoff

    The only name I want to call you is hero. Well said Rebecca.

    • hamiltonr

      Thank you Jessica.

  • http://twitter.com/waywardson23 James

    Thank you for writing this article.

    I have been deeply troubled by this trend of giving gender reassignment surgery to younger and younger children. This is NOT medicine, it is quackery.

    Furthermore, it REINFORCES rigid socially defined gender roles. Don’t meet society’s definition of a “man”? Don’t DARE challenge it. Just get some fake lady parts! But a surgically and hormonally altered man will NEVER be a woman. This is a statement of biological fact, not ideology.

    It’s not “transphobic” to say that these people have been grossly abused by the medical profession.

    I find this story particularly tragic.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230658/The-sex-change-sweethearts-How-pageant-princess-colonels-son-fell-love-BOTH-transgender-treatment.html

    Not to put too much weight on teenage romance, but what if the couple had maintained their sex from birth? They would still complement each other. They would probably make a good couple. But they would have good health, functioning bodies, and a possible family to look forward to instead of a lifetimes of fake parts, artificial hormones, and all the problems that go along with it.

  • pagansister

    IMO, if a child “identifies” him/herself as the opposite gender, then let them grow to age of consent (is that 21 or 18) and proceed from there. If, as an adult they still feel they are mentally in the “wrong body” let them take it upon themselves to do something about it. I don’t think their parent (s) should do anything to change the outward body—seek help perhaps if the child needs it, but no cutting, or hormones, Folks. It should be the decision of the Adult male/female and not taken lightly.

    • hamiltonr

      Pagansister, doctors shouldn’t be mutilating their patients, no matter the patient’s age. As for doing it to children, so far as I’m concerned that’s why we build prisons; so we’ll have a place to those who do this to little ones.

      • pagansister

        Rebecca, I agree with you totally that those who mutilate children belong in prison. As to those that decide to do it to themselves? Again, as much as I wouldn’t do it to myself (and as I kid I sometimes wished I were a boy–but got over that :-) ) it is still up to an adult what to do with their body—-and I’m sure there will continue to be doctors who perform the surgery.

        • hamiltonr

          Adults who do seek out doctors to do this to themselves certainly should not be punished. They are mentally ill and need help. But the doctors who mutilate their patients rather than treat them should have their licenses taken away. If they do it to children, they should also go to prison. This is no different than bleeding people or prefrontal lobotomies or any number of other quack cures medicine has harmed people with. The only reason we can’t have an honest discussion about it is that political correctness forbids it.

          • pagansister

            Wisely or unwisely, Rebecca, humans have free will—adults I’m speaking of here. I know you are most sincere in your beliefs, and i respect that. However it isn’t illegal to do this surgery, thus the doctors can continue, for now anyhow. I do not think it is a good idea, and I wouldn’t promote it. Unfortunately prefrontal lobotomies were legal too—and we know how that turned out. :-(

            • hamiltonr

              Hmmmm … sounds like somebody needs to change the law, at least so far as children are concerned.

  • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

    A freaking men! I am writing a long rant about this very thing myself.

    • hamiltonr

      Thanks my friend. I can’t wait to read it.

  • TheodoreSeeber

    Didn’t George Lucas cover exactly this topic with the character of General Grievous the man who gave up being human to become closer to his robot troops?

  • Dale

    Neither of the two cases being discussed involve sex change surgery on children. Rather, they concern giving children who have reached the age of puberty a drug which will temporarily delay the sexual changes of adolescence. The goal of such drug therapy is to allow the child to grow older without going through irreversible physical changes. Once the child is older, they will stop taking the hormone blocker and enter into physical adolescence. At this point, the child needs to decide whether to undergo the secondary sexual characteristics of a boy or a girl.

    Sex change surgery would come some years later. The Boston article mentions that few surgeons would consider it until age 18.

    • hamiltonr

      Basically what they are doing to these children is chemical castration.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fabio-Paolo-Barbieri/1326821465 Fabio Paolo Barbieri

    I have given before my reasons to disagree – reasons based on personal experience. I will add here that in the case of my friend “Case A”, which I fictionalized here: http://www.fictionalley.org/authors/fabio_p_barbieri/SC01a.html – there was no evidence whatever of any weakness in the family structure – certainly no two lesbians; and in the case of “Case B” not only was there a perfectly ordinary English Catholic family, there were definite physical signs of dimorphism. It was NOT merely a mental problem (s/he, and his/her mother, suspected that a hormone therapy used on the mother near birth may have been the cause.) It was not only a mental problem, I can tell you that. You might also want to read this: http://fpb.dreamwidth.org/35492.html , with the comments. Or you may just want to keep your black-and-white view and ignore opposing evidence.

    • hamiltonr

      Mutilating surgery is not the answer to this Fabio. I’m sure that parents/friends/doctors of those who had prefrontal lobotomies gave personal testimonies to its “healing” powers, as well.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fabio-Paolo-Barbieri/1326821465 Fabio Paolo Barbieri

        Well, you made up your own mind. I expected that to be the case. I can only tell you what I saw (including evidence in at least one case that psychiatric care was not and could not possibly be the answer, since there were physical differences from the male standard), but I can’t make a settled convinction ahead of any evidence change.

        • hamiltonr

          Fabio, the only thing I’ve made up my mind about is that mutilating surgeries and chemical castration are not the answers. I would guess that you are correct that psychiatric care as it is now is not the answer. It wasn’t the answer for schizophrenia. We need to learn more. However, cutting people up and dosing them with huge doses of dangerous hormones is quack medicine, right up there with bleeding people bad humours, and prefrontal lobotomies. Doing things like this to children should be criminal.

  • Maggie Goff

    I call you Truth Teller. Thank you for always doing that.

    • hamiltonr

      Blush.

  • Sus

    I’m very thankful my children feel they are the gender they were born as. What a nightmare for all involved. I don’t think there is any credible resource for what do if your kid comes to you and says they don’t feel like the gender they were born as.

    Admittedly, I’m psychotic on the subject of giving children drugs but really, how can those hormones be healthy?

    One quibble with your post – many children coming from heterosexual marriages have this problem so being exposed to the “gay” isn’t the cause.

    • hamiltonr

      Those hormones are given is huge overdoses. Of course they’re not healthy. It is a quibble to talk about whether or not gay couples or heterosexual marriages are the issue in this instance. I think the first couple (the one with the twins) is a man and a woman. However, for a 7 year old to attempt to cut off his own genitals (which is what happened to the lesbian’s little boy) is a pretty clear sign of abuse of some sort. Without the political correctness, anyone would see that.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zoe-Ellen-Brain/1036085884 Zoe Ellen Brain

        You’ve never actually talked to anyone Transsexual or Intersex, have you?

        Maybe I can help here. I’m Intersex – one of the (fortunately) rare cases where the syndrome can cause a natural sex change.

        In some cases, it’s welcome. The children were effectively transsexual before it happened. In some cases… it’s a nightmare.

        See this example – the syndrome here is 5ARD
        http://www.usrf.org/news/010308-guevedoces.html

        17BHSD syndrome has similar, though not quite as complete, effects. 3BHSD can cause a change in either direction, but usually does so before rather than after birth. There are other syndromes too which do the same thing, none of them common.

        Ref:
        Gender change in 46,XY persons with 5alpha-reductase-2 deficiency and 17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase-3 deficiency. Cohen-Kettenis PT. Arch Sex Behav. 2005 Aug;34(4):399-410.

        The author of this article is supremely opinionated – willing to condemn others as child abusers – and supremely ignorant. Dangerously so.

        I knew I was female – even though I looked mostly male – before age 10. I made several attempts to castrate myself in my early teens using similar techniques used on wethers, but they hurt far too much.

        None of this was due to child abuse.

        Later, when I went through puberty, and things changed down there (not completely – it was a bit of a mess) it was an immense relief. I’ll never win any beauty contests, but at least I don’t look male now. Having to pretend to be male because you look like a boy feels horribly perverted.

        It *is* horribly perverted. But that’s what the author here insists on, despite the suicide rate of such children.

        “Call me all the names you want. I don’t care. ”

        She’s the victim here, right? The martyr?

        She’s guilty of bearing false witness. Calling those who have studied, and even experienced, this issue “child abusers” because she’s arrogant, opinionated, and ignorant.

        But she means well. She’s no monster.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zoe-Ellen-Brain/1036085884 Zoe Ellen Brain

          The fact that she’s allowing contrary opinions to be published means she’s not as arrogant as I implied either.

          I apologise. A bit of assuming and bearing false witness on my part too…

    • TheodoreSeeber

      In general, I’d say not.
      In Thomas/Tammy’s case, you should at least ask the question. Here’s a boy being raised by parents whose very marriage speaks to the evil of his gender. Is it any wonder he would rather be a girl?

  • vox borealis

    Thank you for this excellent piece.

  • Sara L

    Of course, you really have no idea what you are talking about. You don’t know the science. You don’t have any personal knowledge of those of us afflicted with transexuality. You just don’t like us. Your “brand” of religion doesn’t like us. So just admit it and move on.

    We fly your planes across the country. We operate on your loved one’s heart. We teach your children. We fight for our country. We are scientists, grocery store clerks, carpenters, journalists, social workers, engineers. We marry and live good, productive lives. I am sure Nicole will have an amazing life full of love and promise. Despite having to live with people, like you, who dismiss and minimize her life.

    I travel the world. I am at the top of my profession. When possible, I help my friends with financial support if they seek it (these are people, like you, who have no idea what transexuality is). My children (yes I have children) are strong, independent, hard-working women. We have traveled the world together. When they need the support of a loving, caring, stable parent, they turn to me.

    Notice I have not called you any names. I have just called you wrong. if the above is your definition of “mentally ill”, then I will shoulder that mantel with pride.

    Sara …

    • hamiltonr

      Sara,

      All this is interesting and poetic, but it begs the question. I don’t “dislike” you and my “brand” of religion certainly does not dislike you, either.

      Your comments ignore the fact that sex change surgery and massive doses of hormones are voodoo medicine. Worse, they are mutilating and destructive. I do not want in any way to harm people who are afflicted with a compulsion to cut off their own genitals. I am sure that for anyone to actually want to do this, they must be in the grip of something that is quite compelling and that puts them through hell.

      However, surgically mutilation is not treatment. It is profiteering at the expense of suffering people.

      As to whether or not you are mentally ill, I rather imagine that you are. However, your illness may very well turn out to have a physiological basis. I think that is actually true for most mental illness. Rather than subjecting people to horrific, destructive, mutilating medical treatments, we would do better to search for effective ways to treat them.

      • Sara L

        Horrific, destructive, mutilitating. (“Hey honey, what do you think of this woman’s opinion?”) … he said he “likes me just fine, thanks.” Look, at the end of the day, you are nothing more than a religious layman. When you can talk intelligently and, more to the point, scientifically on this subject, then send me an e-mail.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zoe-Ellen-Brain/1036085884 Zoe Ellen Brain

    The picture is of a sunny, smiling, apparently bubbly teenager, with
    long hair and a grey T-shirt. There is nothing in the picture to suggest
    that she was transgender, but that is the reason she took her life.

    When she was 12 her mother tried to have her put onto hormone
    blockers to delay puberty. She didn’t want to develop body hair, a deep
    voice or have wet dreams. She had already self-harmed when young, trying
    to slice her penis off with a pair of scissors. However, in what was
    clearly a borderline decision, the psychologists decided to that she
    should not be given these drugs. She should be given counselling
    instead. In despair her mother, a single parent, tried to take her to
    the United States, but the air fare and the £200 a month cost of these
    drugs was way beyond her means. Her father had no money either and both
    sets of grandparents didn’t want to know.

    Two years later the talking therapy failed. Juliaantje took a massive
    overdose and died, having self-harmed, abused alcohol and other
    substances for more than a year before that.

    “She was an intelligent and lively girl.” Her mother tells me through
    the tears and a large glass of Genever in a nearby café, probably the
    only thing that can deaden the pain of losing her only child. “She had a
    great future ahead of her, she could have done anything, been a doctor,
    a lawyer her teachers said…” Her voice breaks. Her happy nature had
    disappeared when male puberty really hit. “Her voice broke and she
    started to get facial hair and hair on her chest. She wore make up and
    turtle-neck jumpers to hide it all, but she simply couldn’t deal with
    the way her body was developing…”

    Did she blame the psychiatrists? No. Psychiatry is never going to be
    an exact science, there will always be people who don’t fit into their
    categories. She does however, feel that they could have given her the
    benefit of the doubt. “The effects of hormone blockers are easy to
    reverse, you just stop taking them…” There would have been no risk to
    her daughter if, at any time she decided that she did not want to be a
    girl she could simply have stopped, and male puberty would have started.

    Hormone Blockers are essentially a way for young trans people and
    children to leave their options open. They open an extended open window
    of choice, which gives them time to think about their future, a time
    during which young people can decide whether they wish to remain the sex
    they were assigned at birth, whether that be male or female, or whether
    they need gender reassignment surgery after the age of 18. Talking to
    mothers of transgender children in the UK who have been prescribed
    hormone blockers, usually at great cost (£200 a month plus the cost of a
    consultation in and flight to the United States) one thing comes across
    loudly and clearly; “I would rather have a live daughter than a dead
    son.” One of them told me. One mother had remortgaged her house to pay
    the cost of these drugs knowing what her child was like, she realised
    that this would probably be the only way to keep her alive.

    Predictably the accusation of “child abuse” has been levelled at those who advocate prescribing hormone blockers to children between the ages of 12 and 15 (they already are prescribed to those over the age of 16) in the UK. This flies in the face of the evidence in both the United States and Holland, where these drugs have been successfully, and harmlessly prescribed for many years. It also flies in the face of the experience of parents of transgender children, who have lived a day-to-day existence, hoping that their child is still alive and in one piece. Until her daughter was prescribed hormone blockers at age 16 one mother told me of the anguish she and her husband felt when their child had gone missing for a few days when she was 14. “We really thought we would never see her again. Every time the phone rang we thought it would be the police wanting us to identify a body.”

    Now that this technology has been developed, not making it available to all those children who need it is child abuse. Three years ago the trans community was shocked by the suicide of a transgender child who was only 10 years old. The allegation of “child abuse” has been levelled at parents who permit their transgender child to express the gender they prefer and who let them have hormone blockers. Yet this is effectively child abuse in reverse. Not to allow trans children to express their gender identities is actually child abuse. Those who throw accusations of child abuse around without knowing the facts are the ones who are child abusers by proxy; putting pressure on parents to force their children to conform to the gender they were assigned at birth no matter what the consequences.

    • hamiltonr

      Zoe, you are using lyrical nonsense to advocate for child abuse.

      These hormone blockers cause chemical castration. They do not “leave her options” open. Once puberty is past, the period of normal development passes with it. The child will be permanently mutilated by bad medicine and politically correct claptrap. In addition, the health consequences of doing something this drastic to a young body are probably — almost certainly — damaging, long-lasting and damaging. I wouldn’t be surprised if we learn that it is life-shortening.

      To do this to a child is child abuse and should be criminal.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zoe-Ellen-Brain/1036085884 Zoe Ellen Brain

        It delays puberty.

        Or are you saying that the exact same medications, when administered in cases of precocious puberty (age 7-11) – as they have been routinely for many years – are “chemical castration” and “child abuse” too?

        If not – why not?

        I know you mean well, really I do, but these kids often don’t reach the age of 20 without this therapeutic regime. When it’s so severe that there are obvious symptoms appearing early, and persisting past age 12, almost none survive past 25. Not without transition.

        I don’t think you realise that.

        On the other hand, most cases don’t persist past age 10. Only about a third. No-one’s advocating medical treatment before the teens, and no irreversible treatment before the “age of consent” or “Gillick competence”.

        There’s a really good discussion, with numbers, objective measurements, giving both pros and cons, at

        http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/News/Europe/Cohen-Kettenis%20JSM2008.pdf

        The treatment of adolescent transsexuals: changing insights. Cohen-Ketternis et al, J Sex Med. 2008 Aug;5(8):1892-7.
        –”Professionals who take responsibility for these youth and are willing to help should yet be fully aware of the impact of their interventions. In this article, the pros and cons of the various approaches to youngsters with GID are presented, hopefully inciting a sound scientific discussion of the issue.”–

        Please read this.

        I feel you and I are very similar in many ways, despite our opposite conclusions. We both get … a little fanatical… when we see kids being mistreated.

        Hopefully if I lay the facts before you, as best I know them, you will reconsider your position, and may look at the many doctors and parents who don’t want these kids to die – and so face opprobrium from many like yourself – more charitably.

        • hamiltonr

          Zoe, I don’t think that chemical castration is reversible when it is done to children. If they miss the developmental markers of adolescence, then they miss them.

          Look at what happened to female athletes in the old Communist block who were given male hormones to enhance their performance. The effects did not reverse and resulted in lifetime health problems.

          Even the doctors who are practicing this barbarity admit that it will leave the children sterile for life.

          I have no trouble believing that traditional talk therapy does not help this problem. However, I have read that the desire to self-mutilate is often somewhat transient itself; not necessarily for everyone, but for many people. Yet trendy parents and their trendy doctors are inflicting permanent damage on children because of what may very well be a transient diagnosis — and that even if it’s accurate at all.

          From the articles I’ve read, such as the little boy who tried to cut off his own genitals at the age of 7, I would guess that these Dr Trendies are misdiagnosing child abuse as gender dysphoria. They then leave the child in the abusive situation and act out the parents’ fantasies on the child.

          Practicing this kind of quack medicine on young children is child abuse. I am not talking about people with mixed genitalia or mixed chromosomes. I am talking about physically healthy children.

          I am quite sure that if you had asked parents and even recipients of prefrontal lobotomies, you would have found many advocates. It did, after all, “treat” the immediate symptoms. That does not change the fact that it was quackery. I firmly regard sex change surgery as surgical mutilation and what these people are doing to children as chemical castration — that is not reversible.

          To try to say that it is not dangerous and damaging is nonsense.

          As for these children killing themselves, which is what I think you must be talking about, I think that there should be better ways to help them than to castrate them.

          FWIW, I have known people who underwent this surgery as adults. I think they were victims of quack medicine, as well.

          We will look back on this one barbarism the same way we look back on the Tuskegee syphilis study, prefrontal lobotomies and bleeding people to get rid of bad humours.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1744676035 Jill Davidson

    Being gay/lesbian and cisgender is very different from being transgender. Loving a person of the same sex doesn’t require medical intervention. There are many gay people who seek psychotherapy for many reasons, not including changing their sexual orientation. There is no evidence that psychotherapy can effectively change sexual orientation, and there is evidence that there are harms in attempting to do so.

    • tedseeber

      The main harm being political, rather than personal. If any hint of being able to change sexual orientation leaked out in a convincing way, the general demand would be for assimilation rather than accommodation.

  • hamiltonr

    Note: It’s Mother’s Day folks! I’m getting ready to go to mass, and then I’ll be doing family stuff tonight and tomorrow. I could track comments on my iPhone with the other format, but with disqus, I have to be at my computer. If your comments languish, don’t despair. I’ll do my best to find time for them at some point. However, if you are a regular follower of this blog, you may have noticed that I pretty much put it on automatic on Sundays, anyway. I’m enjoying this discussion. It’s very thoughtful. Thank you for keeping it on that level. Blessings to all of you. Rebecca

  • tedseeber

    This must be some strange meaning of the word “healthy” of which I have not previously been aware.

    • http://twitter.com/waywardson23 James

      Physically healthy. I edited to clarify.

  • hamiltonr

    No. It’s not reversible. The doctors who do this admit that much. I’m going to try to research this more and put up a whole post based on the reactions here as soon as I can. Hopefully, I’ll be able to do it this week. It’s near the end of legislative session and I am slammed at work, but I’ll try.

  • hamiltonr

    What they are doing to these kids leaves permanent physical damage. I’ll write about this in more detail when I have the time to put something together.

  • VN

    This is bad stuff. I wish they would stop this for adults and children even if it is mental illness or not. This is worse than a lobotomy. sex change surgery and blockers are just a shot in the dark treatment. experimental.
    What the real abomination is the people who promote this as the best treatment for transgenders They are brainwashing them.
    I don’t know what the answer is, making transpeople into Pavlov’s children ? There are many in society who are responsible for this.

  • yinyangbalance

    you dont have to be christian or catholic or religious at all to see the truth in this. I am an atheist, and this disgusts me. Also notice that these sex changes are almost exclusively directed at boys and men. The reason being is that if this government, owned and operated by big bankers, wants to rule people, they must remove the male equation. They are marginalizing males, they recruit them into their military from these margins, the rest are sent to prison or pushed into being feminine. They want an all feminine society. Leadership is a male quality, not all males have it, but if you have it you bet you have masculine characteristics, very few women have these traits (yes they exist but they are rare) the majority with the leader quality are male.

    Why is it that in war, an invading army targets the males? It does not even matter if they are combatants, first they remove the combatants (mostly if not all male) then they attack the non-combatants starting with males. When the males are gone they rule over the women. If these women are mothers raising boys, they will do exactly what we are seeing in this society (a. make them into soldiers, b. incarcarate, c. kill anyone that resists….but there is an option d too, turn as many as you can into girls).


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