Another Shooting

Another shooting, this time at the Navy Yard in Washington DC.

The details available are almost certainly at least partly incorrect. But here is the information as of now.

From the Washington Post:

At least 12 people are dead and others were wounded after as many as three shooters dressed in military style uniforms opened fire in a rampage at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday, police said, spreading fear and chaos across the region as authorities tried to contain the incident.

D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier announced the mounting death toll in a 2 p.m. news conference. One suspected shooter is dead, and Lanier said authorities still are looking for two other potential suspects wearing green and tan military style clothing.


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“The big concern for us right now is that we have potentially two other shooters that we have not located at this point,” Lanier said.

Mayor Vincent C. Gray said no motive is known. He said they have no reason to believe it was an act of terrorism, though he said he could not rule it out.

Lanier described one of the possible suspects as a white male in his 40s, wearing what appeared to be tan military clothing, “consistent with a Navy uniform,” and a beret. She said police also are looking for a black man in his 40s with gray sideburns, wearing an olive-drab military-style uniform.

  • pagansister

    More insanity.

    • Sus_1

      Just another day in America :(

      • pagansister


  • FW Ken

    Apparently the shower was floridly psychotic. God have mercy on him, on those killed, their families and all of us.

    When will we learn to manage mental illness!

    • pagansister

      Yes, it seems from reports coming out, some probably accurate and some not so much, that the shooter did have mental problems. However, when he went to the VA in 2 different places, his complaints apparently didn’t register as “illness”. He said he couldn’t sleep, thus pills, then when asked if he was depressed, he said “no”. Obviously I’m only going by what has been reported. It is a sad, and horrible for his mother and for those whose loved ones are now dead. I had an uncle who was mentally ill– back in the day when they hooked folks up to wires and shocked them. He was a paranoid but not dangerous to himself or others. He would tell folks to stop talking about him, or his family etc. but never (to my knowledge) got physical. Did some time in an institution (my dad had to take him in, as my grandmother couldn’t bring herself to do it), but managed to live to nearly 88 mostly out of a hospital setting, using medication and did hold some jobs, in a car wash at one point. My dad and uncle helped him out a lot. Died in 2004 So, mental illness has been in my family and is very complicated indeed.

      • FW Ken

        Long ago and far away, I worked in the acute care ward of a state mental hospital. I also worked in community mental health services for a few years. So I know that the love your uncle found in your family was precisely what most folks with mental illness need. Some do get violent, so do need to be locked up.
        All reports I’ve seen on this guy say he was hearling voices, having paranoid delusions, and playing video games for hours, the last being a possible indicator of mania or self-medication. Folks with mental illness do that a lot. A friend of mine with bipolar disorder didn’t like the meds, so he drank beer, up to a 12 pack a day. Sad thing is, he was hardly ever drunk. It really calmed him down. Another interesting facet of this is that he attended a Buddhist temple here in Fort Worth; one of the monks is quoted in an article on the inner tension this guy showed, despite meditation and Buddhist practice. I’ve often seen that inner tension in folks with mental illness, and I think it’s a function of the disease that sometimes (not always) breaks out.
        You are right: mental illness is a complicated thing, involving mind, body, and spirit. So much goes into it and proper treatment should be multi-disciplinary and multi-faceted.