The Limits of Tolerance



What happens when people think evil is good and the devil is beautiful?

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  • johnny Vo

    This is typical of the problem that I frequently have with Father Barron’s media presentations. The text is both valid and valuable. However, he utilizes both the example of a prominent and influential Episcopal woman cleric and the story of a demon possessed young woman to teach the lesson. I think that this is more than simply an unfortunate coincidence. I think it is not incidental that he frequently relates women in religion to inappropriateness, error and evil.

    I cannot help but feel that he expresses here the classic misogyny of the deeply closeted, self loathing, pseudo celibate, homosexual Catholic clergy but maybe it’s just me.

    • hamiltonr

      It’s just you Johnny.

      • Elizabeth K.

        You took the words out of my mouth, Rebecca. :)

    • oregon nurse

      Funny! My take on the bishop’s interpretation was immediately “a feminist who hates St. Paul”. I admit I am as prone to jump to judgment (often erroneously) as the next person.

  • Theodore Seeber

    Love means having to exclude that which is evil. Yep.

  • Manny

    The Episcapal and Anglican Church has gone off the deep end with Liberal dumb ideas.

  • Fabio Paolo Barbieri

    I feel that I am getting tired. The expolosions of evil in every direction are becoming so frequent that I tend to sit bewiildered in my chair, not knowing where to turn and what to address first. And the things that are admissible and defensible are becoming more numerous by the hour. Today, I heard no less than three people whom I had regarded as responsible and likeable before say things that came straight and with no interposition from Hell. This may be an egotistical question, but what does one fat, tired, middle-aged single man do against such an avalanche of real, tangible evil?

    • hamiltonr

      I feel your pain Fabio.

    • Elizabeth K.

      Fabio–me too. Weird encounters with people I like–one who started spouting off about the great awesomeness of Hitler (that was really, really weird); explosive meanness at a work meeting; a parent meeting where parents gleefully talked about how they shouldn’t have to go to Mass and worse (this is a Catholic school). And that’s just the stuff off the top of my head and closest to home. We pray, of course, and we discern–for me, this Lent is about not getting drawn into anger and possibly hatred.

  • AnneG

    Msgr Barron used KJS’s speech and examples, explaining where she was wrong. Besides, it is hard to take anybody who dresses like this seriously.

    • xJane

      Yes, many people think that of bishops/cardinals/the Pope even when they’re male.

  • FW Ken

    The Anglican blogosphere lit up like Christmas over this sermon. But then, those good folks have been livid since her election as PB. And it has nothing to do with her being a woman.