The imaginary war against imaginary Satanazis has real consequences

The reason I make fun of this stuff is because, as ridiculous as the lies and the posturing of these folks are, their fever-dreams and the false witness they bear have real-world consequences.

And I don’t just mean the obvious political consequences — like for example 130,000 low-income women in Texas losing their access to health care (“I was sick, and you cut off funding for my health care”).

This literal demonizing of others can also provoke actual violence when others confuse this fantasy role-playing with reality. It can lead to very strange behavior among the followers of the leaders spouting this stuff. And by separating those followers from reality, it tends to make them easy pickings and sitting ducks for hucksters and con-men of all varieties. Let’s look at three recent stories illustrating each of those consequences.

1. The Satanic baby-killer myth leads to violence by those who don’t realize it’s just a self-indulgent game.

They’re killing babies in there,” said the suspect in the terror attack on a Wisconsin clinic. (See more from Leah Nelson, Amanda Marcotte and Evan McMorris Santoro.)

This was, of course, dismissed as an “isolated incident.” The latest in a very long string of similar isolated incidents.

2. The fantasy role-playing mentality of this sometimes leads to very strange behavior.

The men burst into the church classroom and ordered the 15 teens in the youth group to the floor.

They covered the teens’ heads with pillowcases and bound their hands. One man waved an unloaded gun, and another yelled, his face daubed with camouflage paint.

The kids gathered at the Glad Tidings Assembly of God Church and had planned to partake in youth ministry activities at 7 p.m. Wednesday (March 21).

Instead, they found themselves face down, hugging the linoleum floor, said the Rev. John Lanza, who described what happened. If they listened, they wouldn’t get hurt, their assailants said.

It sounds terrifying, but there’s a catch: The raid was fake, staged to show the teens the perils faced by Christian missionaries in the world’s trouble spots, Lanza said.

(Matthew Paul Turner has video from local news coverage.)

When you construct a mythic self-concept based on imagined “persecution” and an epic struggle against evil, then the day-to-day faithfulness of simple ministry — a cup of cold water, feeding the hungry, bringing hope to the hopeless — won’t seem like it provides enough of an adrenaline rush. This insanely irresponsible youth minister (his mock-raid used real guns) was simply acting out the persecution fantasy at the core of his community’s delusional sense of identity.

3. Those caught up in this mythology are easy prey for hucksters and con artists.

There is a war going on every day, being waged against us,” Brynne said. “Satan hates us. We know how the enemy is, we know what he’s attacking and we can fight back.”

Those are the magic words. That’s catnip for those who seek and find their purpose in spiritual warfare against the Satanic baby-killers. Brynne would be happy to take their money.

And that’s what she’s after — their money. Most of the folks peddling the Satanic baby-killers fantasy narrative are just trying to funnel votes. They’re after political power. But Brynne and her cohorts just want their money.

She’s one of three teenage “exorcists” now working for longtime con-man Bob Larson. He’s trying to get their exploits chronicled on a reality TV show. It would be just like Charmed, except less true.

  • Anonymous

    I bet these are the same people who push for absolute, unregulated gun sales. Because, you know, they’re *clearly* responsible gun owners.

    I’ve never owned a gun. Even I know you don’t fuck around with them. It was a gun with a blank that killed Brandon Lee; if a blank can kill there’s no reason to assume an unloaded gun can’t kill. They’re not toys. I hope someone reports that pastor for child abuse and the local and state agencies start investigating. What happened here was assault with a deadly weapon; those men who came in could be charged with a felony and get their asses sent to jail for a *long* time.

  • Matri

    The least that needs to happen is for that cop to be suspended.

  • JenL

    If the gun’s truly unloaded, you’d generally have to use it as a bludgeon to kill someone with it.  Assuming they don’t have a heart attack or asthma attack, or that they don’t react to the perceived threat…

  • Tricksterson

    I have a cat I use as a familiar, does that count?

  • Anonymous

    OK, everyone. I shouldn’t have said that about the guns being unloaded. All guns are always loaded. I was raised to assume that, and I always act accordingly.

    However, that was before I contemplated one in the hands of someone who’s role-playing a kidnapping with a victim who doesn’t know it’s playacting. That was before I contemplated the victim wrestling the gun away from a ‘captor’ and shooting him. With a loaded gun because, hell, I don’t know, they were going to fire into the air and scare the kids into even more hysterics.

    I guess what I’m trying to say here is that conventional gun safety and this whole situation don’t exist together on the same planet. Gun safety is simply not doing this, period.

  • Anonymous

     

    I wonder if those fake hostage-takers realized how much deep shit they
    could have landed themselves in if one of those kids had managed to
    sneak out their cell phone and dial 911 and leave the connection open.

    Why aren’t they up to their necks over what they did anyways? I mean, that was an actual kidnapping, “prank” or not.

  • Anonymous

    And how do you figure it when the person who does try to help – the who
    doesn’t turn his or her back, who does fight for those in need – doesn’t
    believe in your deity or your devil?

    God prefers kind atheists to hateful Christians. Says so on a Christian church sign in Portland, Oregon.

  • Sgt. Pepper’s Bleeding Heart

    Great youth group idea to promote understanding of the trials others face: Friday night cookout, except when you turn up there’s no food just dirty water to drink, and some of you will get cholera. Who will it be?

  • http://twitter.com/FearlessSon FearlessSon

    This is always followed by the thought: “I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.” and the intense desire to found a colony on Mars. Or maybe somewhere near Alpha-Centauri; that might almost be far enough away from the bat-shit.

    Sid Meier has you covered there

  • http://twitter.com/FearlessSon FearlessSon

    To play “pastor’s advocate”, I do think that training people who plan on doing service in potentially unstable regions to deal with hostage situations is a good idea.  Train them to keep calm, cooperate as well as they are able, do not take unnecessary risks, keep your chin up, speak clearly if needed, and wait for their clearance to evacuate.  It is like how one trains a population for a fire drill.  But that is all it should be, a drill, training, practice.  Something you do knowingly so you can be ready should it ever really go down. 

    What they did at that church was not that. 

  • http://twitter.com/FearlessSon FearlessSon

    There is something that I was thinking about lately that I wanted to bring up here, and the subject of this post seems like it might be appropriate for it. 

    Do these culture warriors, the ones who believe themselves self-righteous defenders of an “ideal” concept of how American society should be, united under the Bible (for a very specific interpretation of it at that) believe that they could ever actually win?  Because that is just something that I cannot concieve happening.  Do they believe that by passing blue laws, or attempting to fudge secular laws to favor sectarian interests, they will somehow force everyone who was not conforming to their ideal to suddenly “see the light” and agree with them?  Do they believe that by brandishing their ideals as a cudgel they can somehow bludgeon people into accepting them?  Do they think that, somehow, America will ever eventually be exactly the way they claim they want it to be? 

    I cannot imagine that ever coming to pass.  At best, what awaits them is endless conflict, fighting a war that they cannot win, pushing against the inevitable tide.  I can maybe understand some kind of “do not go gentle into the night” mentality, to pass from memory with an act of self-affirming defiance in the face of the inevitable, but I cannot see how they could have any hope of triumph.  At worst, their alienation of everyone else will see them gradually whittled away to ineffectuality, a few scattered holdouts here and there, the kind that might go live in isolated compounds away from the world that spurned them, fading from relevance alone. 

    What in their mentality keeps them going down this path? 

  • Jenny Islander

    My old church held an annual hunger dinner, all proceeds to Lutheran World Relief.  Everyone paid the same price, but when you showed up, you were randomly assigned to three groups.  The smallest ate a multi-course dinner on linen, crystal, china, and silver, with candles and wine and a choice of desserts.  The middle-sized group ate at plastic folding tables where you served yourself from big trays of burritos, beans, and rice; you got plenty of water, but the food was limited to one plateful.  The biggest group sat on the floor in the dark eating little bowls of plain rice and beans and drinking from small cups of water.  Also, the rich table was in the center, where everyone could see it.

  • Jenny Islander

    I grew up in a culture where people liked guns because if you had a gun and a license you could eat venison all winter long.  “Gun enthusiasts” give me the creeps.

  • Matri

    You’re talking about a group of people who are as disconnected from reality, logic and critical thinking as one can get.

    Therefore, the answer to your entire paragraph of questions is a “yes”.

  • Sgt. Pepper’s Bleeding Heart

    Yeah, I did one of those too. People at the poor and middle tables were not impressed. Cos of the class envy.

  • JenL

    God prefers kind atheists to hateful Christians. Says so on a Christian church sign in Portland, Oregon.

    Well, if they put it up on a church sign, it must be true.  ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/nedlum Alden Utter

    Are you crazy? Miriam Godwinson will have Planetfall about the same time. You’ll get a hundred years of peace, tops.

  • http://mistformsquirrel.deviantart.com/ JJohnson

     I’d think, most cats are fairly evil after all! (My big one isn’t, but my little one is vicious!)

  • http://mistformsquirrel.deviantart.com/ JJohnson

     *snerk* Sad thing is I never was any good at that game.  I tried!  I tried so many times… but I’m just no good at it.  (Which is odd because strategy is usually one of my strong points.)

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

    Well, I know enough people opposed to them who seem to take seriously the idea that the culture warriors could win, that it seems plausible to me that many of them also believe it.

    Also, if I believe that my position is in some singular sense accurate (e.g., that my preferred way of organizing society isn’t just mine, it also really is better) it’s a lot easier for me to believe that the facts will eventually bear me out, that all those other people who believe superficially compelling but not-actually-accurate things will sooner or later trip up against the practical consequences of believing falsehoods, and those of us who belong to the right-thinking tribe will come out the victors. “Reality bats last” and all.

    Of course, “belief” is also a tricky word here. There’s a continuum between a belief arrived at entirely bottom-up (constructing chains of inferences from observations in the most likelihood-preserving way I know how), a belief arrived at entirely top-down (constructing supporting beliefs for predetermined conclusions), and a belief arrived at in a vacuum (adopting a belief from an external source without integrating it into my other beliefs at all). When it comes to beliefs that are tightly integrated into our social identities, well, they aren’t likely to be firmly in the “bottom-up” category to begin with, so it stops mattering quite so much what the plausible inferences from observations are.

    FWIW, none of this is unique to the “culture warriors” you asked about. This is just what monkeys do.

  • Tricksterson

    I’ve seen a number of fake guns that look pretty realistic.  They should have just gone with those.  But then a fake gun wouldn’t have made them feel nearly as manly would it?

  • Tricksterson

    God is on their side.  Simple as that.  They can’t lose because they’re backed by the ultimate authority.

  • Albanaeon

    I know.  I’ve been doing martial arts for nearly 20 years and the things that I can do are scary sometimes.  Particularly when I am acting on pure instinct.  I managed to avoid seriously harming a friend who had the less than brilliant idea of sneaking up on me and saying “Give me your money” but a complete stranger?  All to get a thrill?  Shudder.

  • JenL

    I’ve seen a number of fake guns that look pretty realistic.  They should
    have just gone with those.  But then a fake gun wouldn’t have made them
    feel nearly as manly would it?

    True, but replacing it with a realistic-looking fake gun would only have solved one problem – the possibility the “unloaded” gun is loaded.  It wouldn’t stop someone from having a panic attack or an asthma attack or a heart attack – after all, the point is that the kids still think it’s a real gun. 

    And it wouldn’t help if one of those kids chose to fight for his or her life – whether the kid harmed a kidnapper, or a kidnapper reacted to the kid violently, it could get bad.  I’d say any moral responsibility belonged to the kidnapper, but I doubt the kid would feel that way.  And it’s highly unlikely the church would vocally agree – it wouldn’t be “we shouldn’t have created this situation”, it would be “your reaction to being violently attacked wasn’t Christian – you should have submitted”.  (Never mind if last week the church celebrated some guy who scared off an attacker by shooting at him, in this case a kid – especially a girl – would be told she should have submitted.) 

    Of course, if there’d been a kid in this group that seemed likely to fight back (or who had parents the church thought would react assertively), there’d have been some convenient reason not to pull this little stunt…

  • http://twitter.com/FearlessSon FearlessSon

    God is on their side. Simple as that. They can’t lose because they’re backed by the ultimate authority.

    David Koresh thought the same thing, and look where he ended up.  :p

  • http://willbikeforchange.wordpress.com/ Storiteller

     I think that was how C.S. Lewis in the Screwtape Letters put it as well.  I believe the demon told his protege to make the person he was assigned to shallow and apathetic and everything else would take care of itself.

  • http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke

    Doesn’t sound totally out of line. Hostage-takers/kidnappers pretty much deserve it if anyone does. The French have this badass tactic where their snipers each zero in on a different guy and fire simultaneously.

    The simultaneous sniper fire must be terrifying to anyone left over.

  • JenL

    Of course, “apathetic” is not the opposite of “Christian”.  I’m neither.  And some of the best people I know – the ones most involved in working for social justice – are also non-Christians. 

    I’m not disagreeing so much with the “eh, make them shallow and you’ll send them to Hell” as with the implication that if we all *cared*, we’d all be *insert denomination here*…

  • ako

    Giving someone who’s about to go into a dangerous situation the training to deal with the dangers they’re going to be facing is a good idea.

    It is also almost entirely unlike what the church did.

    In addition to the problems of putting kids in a dangerous situation without their consent, they didn’t actually train those kids to do anything.  There were no useful skills being taught.  Nothing about that kidnapping will leave those kids any better equipped to deal with a possible real kidnapping.

  • http://twitter.com/FearlessSon FearlessSon

    And if their real intent was to “teach a lesson” regarding the danger they might be in as missionaries in an unstable place, then I do not object to the principal of what they did.  Heck, I would not object if it were to teach them to appreciate the religious freedom they have here by showing them what it is like in some places that do not have such protection for religous minorities (which is a good lesson at any time.) 

    But the execution was woeful and undermined any lesson it might have been trying to teach. 

  • http://willbikeforchange.wordpress.com/ Storiteller

    I don’t believe the “if we all cared, we’d be ….”  either because I wouldn’t fit into most people’s definitions, even as a Christian.  Instead, I believe apathetic is the opposite of love, like the Elie Wiesel quote.  As Christians are called to be loving and I believe God is love, apathy as a Christian would serve to separate you from God.  That’s the point Lewis is making in the Screwtape Letters.

    However, I think that for non-Christians, apathy brings you further away from love.  I’ll leave it up to other people to judge how that leaves them in relationship to God, gods, or no gods.

  • Tricksterson

    I think apathy brings one closer to the void, which is the only true peace.

  • JenL

    However, I think that for non-Christians, apathy brings you further away
    from love.  I’ll leave it up to other people to judge how that leaves
    them in relationship to God, gods, or no gods.

    I think we’re saying almost the same thing, but from different directions.  I agree that for just about any religion, apathy takes a person further from caring about or acting on the teachings of that religion. 

    But I think many people assume the opposite is true – that if we can just get people to *care* and act on that care, we’ll not just get them to act and believe, but we’ll get them to act and believe *in alignment with OUR beliefs*. 

    Maybe I’m wrong about what CS Lewis was saying, or what others mean by it, but what I hear is “get people to care again, enough to act on that concern, and what we’ll have is observant Christians”.  My point is that you might wind up with a concerned and active Buddhist, or Muslim – or atheist, like me. 

    Then again, I’m one that quibbles over the “treat others as you want to be treated” because I hate that assumption that of course other people want what you want.  I’d far prefer “treat others as THEY want to be treated”.

  • http://twitter.com/FearlessSon FearlessSon

    Then again, I’m one that quibbles over the “treat others as you want to be treated” because I hate that assumption that of course other people want what you want. I’d far prefer “treat others as THEY want to be treated”.

    Unfortunately, some people have a rather bad double standard in how they want to be treated compared to how they want other people to be treated.  When they want to be treated like they own the place, and treat others like they should not offend their sight, well, it tends to make reciprocation of kindness a bit difficult. 

  • http://willbikeforchange.wordpress.com/ Storiteller

    I agree on all points.  I don’t automatically assume, even though I’m Christian, that if people are more loving and less apathetic they will magically become Christian and adopt my specific set of beliefs.  That’s just not how faith or belief systems work.

    I too think that you need to ask others how they need to be treated, but sometimes that’s actually very difficult to figure out.  “As you want to be treated” can be a useful shorthand at times.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZU7REH7OUUN6WGWDSL6ZFC3TMY Jen

    Unfortunately, some people have a rather bad double standard in how they want to be treated compared to how they want other
    people to be treated.  When they want to be treated like they own the
    place, and treat others like they should not offend their sight, well,
    it tends to make reciprocation of kindness a bit difficult. 

    Ah, yes.  I agree with your point.  I was thinking less about qualitative differences and more about underlying preferences.

    Example:  one person (call her Abby), when sick, wants nothing more than to be fussed over.  Another (Belle) wants peace and quiet.  If Belle gives a sick Abby peace and quiet, and Abby gives a sick Belle all the fussing Abby could ever hope for – they’ll both be very unhappy.  Neither of them got what she wanted while sick, and neither of them got the appreciation they might have expected from taking care of the other so very well… 

    Both of them have been told by society that they should treat the other as they themselves want to be treated, but that’s created a problem because of the lack of emphasis on the desires of the recipient. 

    Belle feels like she had to spend a lot of energy
    that should have gone to healing on meeting the demands of Abby’s desire
    to fuss over her.  And Abby might be in a complete snit, because from her perspective (and from an objective perspective), she put in a LOT more “work” than Belle did.