O captains, my captains

If dictionary people are so smart, how come they haven’t noticed?”

You’re not being insulted, you’re being honored!

Jeffrey Hunter passed away from a stroke in 1969.

“Louisiana is the starkest, most glaring example of how our prison policies have failed.”

“Just let six of them go home … and with that $6 million we could meet our total annual operating budget for the 33 existing clinics and hospitals we have in Afghanistan.”

YNATKC

“Congress’ denial of federal benefits to same-sex couples lawfully married in Massachusetts has not been adequately supported by any permissible federal interest.”

“Apparently unable to find real activists, the coal industry paid astroturfers $50 to wear pro-coal T-shirts at an Environmental Protection Agency hearing.”

“Only 59 percent of Americans believe sex between unmarried people is moral, even while upwards of 90 percent of us have premarital sex.”

“‘We need to do a better job of talking about sex‘ usually means ‘we need to dress up the same  discussions we’ve been having so that they seem more modern and cool and appeal more to young people.’”

The world’s got an earful of that ass noise recently, though.”

We should probably spend some money on infrastructure every so often.”

I’m a Baptist, too!

“It ended with a little tapper back to the pitcher. ‘And that was that.’”

Thers on Sartre, Santana and Yankees fans.

 

  • LoneWolf343

    Looks like Kirk stole all of Sisko’s weight.

  • Tonio

    Another irony with mentioning Jeffrey Hunter on this blog is the role he played in “King of Kings.”

  • friendly reader

    I think the “immoral” versus “engaging in it” paradox of premarital sex is the same that works when anti-abortion advocates have abortions. In the latter scenario, the abortion-seeker believes their reasons – health issues, rape, age, lack of finances – are all legitimate, but can’t see that those are the reasons all women have. They’re so plugged into a line of thinking that women who have abortions are doing it casually just because they feel like it.

    Similarly, I think, there’s an image that premarital sex = promiscuity and taking sex lightly. When they engage in premarital sex, it’s because they’ve been in a relationship for a long time, or they’re engaged, or they plan to get married once they can afford it. But those other people, well, they must all just fooling around, and that’s immoral.

    Hence you can engage in a behavior that you technically consider immoral because you have a good reason for it. It doesn’t sink in that, generally, most people have a good reason for violating overly-generalized moral mandates.

    Part of me wonders if maybe we should be more open about talking about our sexual pasts, but then another part of me feels it shouldn’t be anyone else’s business if you don’t want to talk about it.

    But I dunno, something’s gotta give at some point.

  • friendly reader

    On the same topic, does anyone have a copy of The Screwtape Letters lying around? I seem to recall a conversation between  Wormwood and Screwtape when the latter thinks that he’ll score some kind of coup getting his newly-minted Christian to sleep with his girlfriend, and Wormwood basically says that the having sex when you’re happy and in love doesn’t really do any damage to a soul; you have to get humans to have sex when they’re down and don’t care about the person. But I may not be remembering all the details, so if someone wants to calrify…

  • The_L1985

    There’s also the utter weirdness of the idea that a piece of paper and an exchange of jewelry is all it takes to some people to change sex from Very Bad to Very Good, and that this (to them) is the sole purpose of marriage. See also the Facebook group “I Can’t Wait to Get Married So I Can Have Sex!”

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    The way I think of it is people need to be taught that it’s like a tool. A fun tool, but still a tool. And like all tools, there are things to do to make sure you’re as safe as possible.

    You wouldn’t use a chainsaw without an eye guard, gloves, and so on.

    You wouldn’t use an expensive and sharp kitchen knife without proper food placement and hand positioning.

    In the same manner, one shouldn’t have sex without easy access to all the things that make it safe. So condoms should be cheap, and so should spermicides and all the lot.

    But just as chainsaw accidents do happen and one has to go to the hospital, things do happen as a consequence of sex and one should be able to have access to competent medical and psychological personnel – especially if an abortion is warranted.

    Why more people can’t think of all these things as necessary guards and fail-safes instead of OMGENABLINGIMMORALITY I do not understand.

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

     

    Why more people can’t think of all these things as necessary guards and
    fail-safes instead of OMGENABLINGIMMORALITY I do not understand.

    My usual working theory is that humans are prone to make emotionally weighted typicality judgments about sex, and my culture tends to equate those judgments with moral judgments. (The word “purity” gets used in this context a lot, also.) So we have a hard time thinking about sex acts without making associated moral judgments about them, and our moral judgments about sex acts often depend on what we have experience with.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    From that Louisiana prisons article?

    But, in what the newspaper called “a uniquely Louisiana twist,” most
    of the prison entrepreneurs were actually rural sheriffs. They saw a way
    to make a profit and did.

    How about we play a little game?

    But, in what the newspaper called “a uniquely Russian twist,” most of the new business entrepreneurs were actually former Soviet government officials. They saw a way to make a profit and did.

    Flip the words, but the corruption is the same.

    While it’s not technically theft to use your personal connections to obtain easy access to government money, or to convert government assets to private use when the law allows it, the sheer weight of conflict-of-interest inherent to the acts involved should have caused the people writing the laws to think twice about allowing a free-for-all at the resulting pile of gold being offered to those fortunate enough to grab hold and hang on.

  • Jessica_R

    And in 

  • CB

     

    While it’s not technically theft to use your personal connections to
    obtain easy access to government money, or to convert government assets
    to private use when the law allows it, the sheer weight of
    conflict-of-interest inherent to the acts involved should have caused
    the people writing the laws to think twice about allowing a free-for-all
    at the resulting pile of gold being offered to those fortunate enough
    to grab hold and hang on.

    Wasn’t that the point of prison privatization (and, to a certain extent, post-Soviet ‘privatization’?) If the people who pushed for these laws couldn’t profit off of them, they probably wouldn’t have fought so hard to pass them in the first place.

  • Antigone10

    When I saw that 
    “You’re not being insulted, you’re being honored!” link, I thought it was going to talk about sports nicknames like the UND Sioux and the Redskins.  Interesting how the kyriarchy played out similarly there.

  • Lori

     

    See also the Facebook group “I Can’t Wait to Get Married So I Can Have Sex!”  

    See also too Christians on blogs & Facebook talking incessantly about “my hot wife/husband”. Oy.

  • http://deird1.dreamwidth.org Deird

     The closest I can find is this:

    And it is also to be noted that the trough sexuality is subtly different in quality from that of the peak – much less likely to lead to the milk and water phenomenon which the humans call “being in love”, much more easily drawn into perversions, much less contaminated by those generous and imaginative and even spiritual concomitants which often render human sexuality so disappointing. It is the same with other desires of the flesh. You are much more likely to make your man a sound drunkard by pressing drink on him as an anodyne when he is dull and weary than by encouraging him to use it as a means of merriment among his friends when he is happy and expansive. Never forget that when we are dealing with any pleasure in its healthy and normal and satisfying form, we are, in a sense, on the Enemy’s ground. I know we have won many a soul through pleasure. All the same, it is His invention, not ours.

    Was that the passage you were thinking of?

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    At least they’re apparently enthusiastic about who they want to be in bed with?

  • Lori

    There’s enthusiasm and there’s overcompensating. The people I’m talking about are way over the line. Their “hot spouse” comments just make me depressed thinking about what crappy sex they must be having and how hard they’re trying to pretend that it’s great and how most of them are probably blaming themselves for the fact that it’s so bad.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    Fair point. I hope they do discover some happiness, though.

  • hidden_urchin

    Heh, it reminds me of that Stuff Christian Culture Likes post:

    http://www.stuffchristianculturelikes.com/2009/01/59-saying-that-their-spouse-is-hot.html

    Warning: That site is as addictive as TV Tropes. 

  • pharoute

    Where’s Capt. Rachel Garrett??
    /nerd

  • P J Evans

     Where’s Captain Sulu?

  • friendly reader

     Yeah, that’s the one I was thinking of, thanks.

  • Tonio

    The photo was probably intended to include only the captains who were stars of their TV series, not supporting characters, or ones like Sulu who earned promotions to captains in the movies.

  • Tonio

    To link this thread and the church sign thread, Walt Whitman might never have imagined that the title of his tribute to Lincoln would end up sounding like dialogue from erotic films set on ships or airplanes.

  • erikagillian

    I think it may be a picture from the show/movie of Shatner interviewing the others.  There’s a very disturbing sexist bit during the interview with and now I can’t remember her name!  I sort of thought Shatner might have been trying to be outrageous to get a rise but she was almost as bad!  Captain Janeway?

  • Tricksterson

    Even without her wonderful and brave answer I would applaud her winning if only because she isn’t from one of those states that practically have frikkin’ breeding farms for beauty pageant contestants.

  • Tricksterson

    At this point Shatner has stolen everybody’s weight.

  • LoneWolf343

    If I am allowed to be pedantic, the comparison of  evolution to a dictionary in the first link is false. While evolution is a general accepted objective theory of our origins, dictionaries are really subjective. Dictionaries merely list the meanings that the public had assigned to certain noises. In fact, the kids getting together to decide an alternate spelling of a world is, although simplistic and greatly accelerated, what happens in real world dictionaries. If anything, dictionaries would be more adequately compared to textbooks, or, rather, the Bible itself, especially considering how some people have an inappropriate devotion to the authority of a dictionary without understand its origins or intentions.


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