"New Eve" encounters her snakes?

Hillary Clinton sort of looking at Our Lady of Guadalupe

Okay, I admit I’m being a bit snarky with the headline. I’m not really calling Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama “snakes” – I’m just having a little fun with scripture, and the whole notion that the two biggest abortion proponents in the country are having Marian encounters.

If you are unfamiliar with the concept of Mary as The New Eve, there’s lots of info out there, and a few lovely meditations by some of our nun friends, too.

Anyway, so President Obama is going to go to Notre Dame University (amid some uproar) and Hillary Clinton, while in Mexico City, viewed the miraculous image of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

During her recent visit to Mexico, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made an unexpected stop at the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe and left a bouquet of white flowers “on behalf of the American people,” after asking who painted the famous image.

The image of Our Lady of Guadalupe was miraculously imprinted by Mary on the tilma, or cloak, of St. Juan Diego in 1531. The image has numerous unexplainable phenomena, such as the appearance on Mary’s eyes of those present in the room when the tilma was opened and the image’s lack of decay.

Mrs. Clinton was received on Thursday at 8:15 a.m. by the rector of the Basilica, Msgr. Diego Monroy.

Msgr. Monroy took Mrs. Clinton to the famous image of Our Lady of Guadalupe, which had been previously lowered from its usual altar for the occasion. After observing it for a while, Mrs. Clinton asked “who painted it?” to which Msgr. Monroy responded “God!”

After placing a bouquet of white flowers by the image, Mrs. Clinton went to the quemador –the open air area at the Basilica where the faithful light candles- and lit a green candle. Leaving the basilica half an hour later, Mrs. Clinton told some of the Mexicans gathered outside to greet her, “you have a marvelous virgin!”

“Who painted it,” she asked.

Doh! Another State Department error! It’s a good thing we have a “smart” State Department, now, instead of the “dumb” one we had for the last 8 years!

Nice Deb points out that after visiting this Patroness of the Unborn (and of the Americas) Mrs. Clinton went off to receive Planned Parenthood’s highest award:

I can tell she was very affected by her encounter with the Protectress of the Unborn. Last night, Clinton received the highest award given by Planned Parenthood: the Margaret Sanger Award, named for the organization’s founder, a noted eugenicist.

Gateway Pundit
has more

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  • culperjr.

    Oh, I give up! I am not a Catholic, yet I know perfectly well who Our Lady of Guadalupe is! My son has her image on his bedroom door, for crying out loud.

    There is a certain amount of information that I believe a literate, informed person should retain. I don’t need to know the biographical details of Juan Diego or the date of the image, but the famous image from the tilma is EVERYWHERE. OK, so I don’t expect Hillary has ever been to a WalMart (just because she sat on their corporate board), but haven’t any of her staffers? Right between housewares and bedding–votive candles of Our Lady.

    I’m a hateful conservative Protestant, yet it appears I know a good deal more about Mexican history, Hispanics and Catholics than our Sec. of State. Can I have the job? I promise not to be a horse’s ass!

  • alexandrag

    Hey, maybe Ms. Hillary needed to hear the answer “God.” Maybe over the next few days, weeks, years, it will resonate within her, or perhaps within that State Department employee who failed to do the background research, or someone else. Who knows? God does.

    Also, for a real tear jerker because it is so loving and relates to the post below this one, and hearkening back to a link that was on the Anchoress long ago, go watch “99 Balloons” about Eliot on YouTube. Eliot lived for 99 days, but his parents made the most of every second of it. That is true love.

  • KathyMary

    I am a Gnostic Christian AND I know the legend of The Lady. Grew up Italian-American attending both Catholic grammar and High Schools long before Mexican culture was well known. You know what drives me nuts? She could have just googled it. Had the brains and Will to familiarize herself with an important Neighbor’s culture. Would have taken her all of 10 minutes. Act respectfully of the Catholic Faith.

    Didn’t her parents ever encourage her to do some home work? One thing that irritates me with this crop of liberals is how truly self-satisfied they are… even, overconfident. They believe their own hype- told they are brilliant they actually believe they KNOW everything.. The party is worse than it was in the ’70′s– Be willing to act humble and do your background work. Look at that button fiasco.

    And if everything else failed she could have watched Wishbone’s version : Viva Wishbone!
    Here is a quick page for our secretary of state : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe

    Note please: Really admire the ‘hidden away ones’ Lady Anchoress. As a Gnostic the life of Prayer, meditation and seclusion appeals to me. Perhaps when this life winds down.

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  • on a journey

    Okay–the report said the stop at the cathederal was “unexpected”–but SOMEONE on her staff had the thought to get the flowers, right? (What exactly were they for?)
    But anyway, even if she grew up in a bubble, never heard of OLofG and Juan Diego, doesn’t she (and all other high-ranking political figures)have a personal staff member whose job it is to make her look knowledgeable???? Heck she could have even said, “Beautiful, I’d like to hear more of the story behind this”….or something as such. You might make a statement like that if you were looking at a masterpiece painted by _________ (name your artist) who you were not familiar with and didn’t want to look stupid.

    Was it a true gaffe or was she just tryin’ to dis us religious folks?

  • http://spreadingolive.blogspot.com Elizabeth Anne

    You’re right: if it’s true, that’s really embarrassing. The problem is that there are a few reasons to believe the story is not. For one, there’s only one source. For another, a video of the event shows her only waving to the crowd, and not speaking. Finally, 3 other reports I found say that Mrs. Clinton attended a meeting earlier in the day with Church teachers who told her the entire story of the Virgin of Guadalupe: I’d be surprised if they forgot to mention the significance of the image.

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  • http://vita-nostra-in-ecclesia.blogspot.com/ Bender B. Rodriguez

    Well, there may be some good to this total ignorance from Hillary, Barack, et al.

    When we are forced to go back to using secret symbols and code, like the ichthus, the shepherd, the fisherman, the lamb, the chi-rho, etc., then they will not know who we are.

  • KathyMary

    Very true… why do you think we Gnostics talk only in myths and symbols?? … the Catholic Church in its bad old days attacked us, killing thousands of us in the Albigensian crusade and afterwards, what was left of us were called witches and burnt as well – you (all) drove us underground, sometimes, literally, Bender, silencing us for nearly 800 years. Now, our branch of the Christian tree is re- budding.

    A Gnostic talks in symbols, metaphors, myths (The holy Grail, the search/hunt for the great unicorn, the Arthurian legends, the closed rose garden, the tarot journey,the phoenix fire, walking on a sword’s edge, etc.) because it is a way to talk right in front of our enemies without being understood.
    Here is my blog.. look at it a moment.. my ‘hunt’ for Christ is right in front of everyone and no one understands. http://kathymary.multiply.com/
    I think it is amusing.
    People take us literally or dismiss the legends and stories as medieval nonsense when only the initiated know the truth — our hearts know the truth that.. we are speaking of deeply spiritual, mystical things.

    I would say that we Gnostics and you, of the Churches, need to recognize our communality. We will either hang together or hang separately as old Ben said. We are between extreme liberalism (communism,atheism etc.) and extreme Islam – like the hammer and anvil, they mean, us – the steel – great harm.
    I would remind you that steel is made stronger when it heated and struck many times. If the church – the community of all believers is forced underground again, may our love for God hold firm —The catacombs, once again, is not a fearful thing unless we are cowards.

    We have one great thing in common – Our love for Jesus Christ.
    We should be friends, we serve the same great Lord of light and hope.

    Note : this modern stupidity about the Holy Grail being a blood line – is just that, one of the great lies of this age. The Albigensian perfecti would have laughed to even hear such foolishness.. the search for the holy grail is the search for Jesus within the human soul)

    You see the ignorance of the world when it comes to Great Mysteries in Clinton’s comments concerning the Lady. She does not see holiness when it is right before her. May the arrogant and clueless always be so very blind!

  • tim maguire

    I didn’t know about the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe until just now reading it, but you can be sure that if I traveled to see it, and brought along some flowers as an offering, I’d at least learn the basic facts about it before I got there.

    Probably she has an itinerary made up by someone else, her aid said “we have to stop and view this local holy thing” and as they walked up, he gave her a bouquet of flowers to hand off. The whole thing meant absolutely nothing to her.

  • KathyMary

    “we have to stop and view this local holy thing” and as they walked up, he gave her a bouquet of flowers to hand off. The whole thing meant absolutely nothing to her”

    I doubt they called it : “This local holy thing.”
    I suspect…
    “Next stop, Mrs. Clinton, acknowledgment of the catholicism of our Mexican constituency!”
    “Well, that shouldn’t be difficult.” she comments.
    I would think the itinerary was studied ad infinitum … if I was her secretary I would have added a few pages to her fact sheets.

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  • Francesca

    What on earth is the problem with the State Department and Hillary? I have known about the image of La Virgen de Guadalupe since I was in high school, and I am neither Catholic nor Hispanic. Do they even give a thought to Latin America and especially to Mexico? Pathetic. BTW . . . I love that she kept getting the answer, “God.”

  • KathyMary

    People mistaken book learning -a college education – for deeper knowledge and learning, Francesca, that a person can gain by being very interested all aspects of culture, science, history over a lifetime, absorbing everything they can because they love learning.. I am self educated. So I have a very broad knowledge base (But not terribly deep on most subjects).. a college or university person today has, for the most part, a very narrow but deep knowledge base, and for the most part they will know ONLY what they absolutely need to know for their profession.
    What is really sad is that she could have had the smarts to read something about the culture of Mexico, first.

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