BREAKING: Satanic Temple Walks Back: Do They Mean It? STAY TUNED

Earlier this morning, I contacted Priya Dua, a spokesperson for The Satanic Temple, and she confirmed for me that the organization’s May 12 “Re-enactment of a Satanic Black Mass” would involve the use of a Consecrated Host.

Shortly after our conversation, I was put in touch with the perfectly pleasant-sounding Lucien Greaves, who appears to be a lead spokesperson for the group. I had meant to ask him how the Host had been obtained, and why such an effort had been made. He seemed unsure that one had been obtained, at all.

During our exchange, Greaves remarked that his group “had never brought up the idea of using a consecrated host” in their public material, and seemed puzzled to be asked about it. “It wouldn’t make a difference. We don’t believe in any supernatural power. Consecrated or unconsecrated, it’s just a cracker.” He and his group are, he said, “Satanist/Atheists” who have never hosted a Black Mass before.

I asked if that were the case, why go out of the way to obtain a Consecrated Host, which — because they are not exactly sold via Amazon — would involve someone presenting falsely at Communion during a Holy Mass. Given the group’s insistence that they are engaging in an intellectual and educational exercise meant, as Greaves put it, “as an expression of personal independence from overwhelming cultural influences”, I asked if obtaining a Consecrated Host through stealth — and using it for an “intellectual” exercise that would constitute grave abuse to believing Catholics — would pose an ethical dilemma for them which could affect their credibility. Greaves wondered whether anyone connected with the group “would waste time going to all that trouble. The odds are almost zero.”

Almost zero.

Not long after our conversation ended, Priya Dua called me again saying that there has been a “miscommunication” between members of the organization and that “there will not be a Consecrated Host used at the Black Mass.” She had no further information for me on how the miscommunication had occurred, and could not tell me what sort of unconsecrated bread would be used, or from where it would be obtained. Speaking anonymously, a spokesman added, “please understand, there is in fact, respect for the beliefs of others, and our intention was not to be in anyone’s face. We did not mean to mislead.”

So, there it is. The Satanic Temple officially denies that they have obtained a Consecrated Host or will be using it in their re-enactment.

I got the impression that the interest in their original confirmation was heat they neither anticipated, nor wanted. The Satanic Temple is the organization that was behind the Satan statue in Oklahoma. They appear to me to be more interested in advocating against belief of any sort, and pricking the culture, than in actually pursuing supernatural interests. That they are more, as it were, “seculo-politico-atheo-satanists” rather than supernaturalists.

Having spoken with several people within the organization, I am not entirely sure they fully understand what they’ve gotten themselves into, with this “re-enactment”. When I asked Greaves what he would do if, in the midst of their exercise, something from the etheric plane made itself known, he laughed and said, “well, then I’d have to reassess.”

Greaves says his Satanism is “a metaphorical construct” meant to unshackle the world from belief in supernatural good or evil because belief has “led to horrible things” and “the idea of Satanists as deviants has never done the world any good.”

Interesting. Serving secular-atheism with a mind toward “unshackling” Satan from the confines of wariness seems to me a most dangerous undertaking. As a believer, I will pray for them. Having spoken with diocesan exorcists, I know that many people who have no real intention of inviting in the dark end up becoming imprisoned by it.

NOTE: In any case, Greaves is speaking to others, now and sounding squirrely. I have left a message asking him to clarify himself further, and — since he seems to be parsing words — have asked him if he intends to use a host that OTHER PEOPLE would call “Consecrated”. Stay Tuned…

The Holy Eucharist is the physical Presence of Christ Jesus and therefore it is imbued with his power. There is a reason why people who hate religion — and especially those who do recognize the supernatural — always seek it out, and try to destroy it, in a quest for power.

Let us pray.
UPDATE:
Harvard Extension
has expanded on their earlier statement.

UPDATE II: Deacon Greg has a further statement from an email to him:

I am writing on behalf of The Satanic Temple to relay that there will NOT be a consecrated host at the Black Mass. This was a miscommunication on our part and want to let you know that we respect all religions and don’t want anyone to feel offended. We understand the powerful role that the Eucharist plays in the Christian religion and in no way want to appear as though we don’t respect your traditions.

UPDATE III: Rebecca finds some inconsistencies in past Temple remarks and Mark Shea weighs in.

UPDATE IV:
Tech Guy Wonders: Are they contradicting themselves, now, or simply being misinterpreted by reporters? This follow up spurs the question.

UPDATE V:
Msgr Pope:
Why Does Satan Hate You?


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  • Eugene Edward Yeo

    You know… just because you don’t believe in fire doesn’t mean it won’t show up when you strike a match.

  • Barrett Turner

    If Greaves thinks it is a “cracker” either way, then what they mean when they say that they are not using a consecrated Host is that they are not using anything they think to be the Body of Jesus. In other words, the question they need to be asked is if they are using a host obtained from a Catholic Mass or taken from a Catholic Tabernacle, not whether they are using a “consecrated Host”.

    Given the fact that they have already stated falsehoods, why think they would not equivocate when pressed? Satan is a liar, after all.

  • Joyfully

    and we can trust the words of a person who worships the father of lies?

  • Cypressclimber

    I hope, I pray, no sincere Catholic gets within 10 miles of this. As appalling as the desecration of the Eucharist is, no one should have anything to do with this, whatsoever, for any reason!

  • Barrett Turner

    If Greaves thinks it is a “cracker” either way, then what they may mean when they say that they are not using a consecrated Host is that they are not using anything they think to be the Body of Jesus. In other words, the question they need to be asked is whether they are using a host obtained from a Catholic Mass or taken from a Catholic Tabernacle, not whether they are using a “consecrated Host”.

    The potential for equivocation here is real.

  • DaTechGuy on DaRadio

    What I find interesting about all this is if these people claim to not actually believe in Satan what cultural purpose does this event serve that would prompt A Harvard cultural club to host what would be if they don’t believe it a parody of beliefs?

    How is that different than Cinco de Mayo business at MSNBC?

  • vsm

    “Lucien Greaves” sounds like a variant of “Luci[fer] Gr[ ]aves.” Since Satan is the Father of Lies, I think your characterization, Elizabeth, of Greaves’s latest pronouncement as “squirrelly” might be charitable. Let us pray, indeed.

  • Beth Turner

    Please keep us updated on this. Also, please let us know if you find people we can contact by e-mail or by phone.

  • Theresa

    Elizabeth – Thank you so much for your due diligence to this matter and in keeping us informed. Their endeavor is so sad, so pathetic – I pray for them all.

  • Uxi

    They ‘respect all religions’ but are going to conduct a ceremony that is, by definition, a parody of the Catholic Mass? I find myself doubting they actually respect any religions, especially the one they would be deliberately attempting to mock with this blasphemy by profaning the Blessed Sacrament in effigy, if not in actuality.

  • http://forwardboldly.com Christine L. Niles

    The Boston Archdiocese has responded. I received this note from Terry Donilon:

    “The following is a statement we issued today in response to the black mass issue at Harvard

    Thank you for voicing your concern

    Terry

    STATEMENT OF THE ARCHDIOCESE OF BOSTON

    The Catholic community in the Archdiocese of Boston expresses its deep
    sadness and strong opposition to the plan to stage a “black mass” on the
    campus of Harvard University in Cambridge.

    For the good of the
    Catholic faithful and all people, the Church provides clear teaching
    concerning Satanic worship. This activity separates people from God and
    the human community, it is contrary to charity and goodness, and it
    places participants dangerously close to destructive works of evil.

    In a recent statement, Pope Francis warned of the danger of being naïve
    about or underestimating the power of Satan, whose evil is too often
    tragically present in our midst. We call upon all believers and people
    of good will to join us in prayer for those who are involved in this
    event, that they may come to appreciate the gravity of their actions,
    and in asking Harvard to disassociate itself from this activity.”

    **********************************************
    Terrence C. Donilon
    Secretary for Communications & Public Affairs
    Archdiocese of Boston
    Email: tdonilon@rcab.org
    Work: 617-746-5775
    Cell: 401-480-0171

    http://www.bostoncatholic.org

  • Geoff

    If there is ANY decent and influential practising Catholic who attended Harvard they should be doing their absolute utmost to stop this wicked abomination no matter what it takes.

    For sure they are lying about no consecrated host. The natural disasters that can befall the American nation are inevitable through this sacrilege.

    There is an Opus Dei priest- a Fr John Flader who attended Harvard. He is just one person of many Catholic notorieties who attended Harvard who can and should speak up and stop this abomination. Calling on the faithful here…..

    It is no coincidence that they chose a date on the eve of the first apparition of Fatima.

    Francis where are you now…….

  • http://www.steveskojec.com/ Steve Skojec

    I’m sure we can trust people who claim to worship the Father of Lies to give straight answers. Implicitly.

    /sarcasm

    I want to believe that they won’t use a real host. Sadly, I don’t think we have that luxury.

  • http://www.steveskojec.com/ Steve Skojec

    I’m sorry, but could this statement have been any wimpier? Deep sadness? Strong opposition?

    Where is the statement of belief in the Real Presence? Where is the outrage that they want to desecrate the precious body and blood of our God? If the updates are true and they won’t use a consecrated host, fantastic. But this was issued in response to the belief that they WOULD.

    Saint Tarcisius DIED at 12 years old to protect the Eucharist from a mob. Can the Archdiocese of Boston possibly find it within their power to use some STRONG LANGUAGE in condemning this action, at the very least?

  • Andrew

    Yup. I do. You jealous that I don’t trust yours?


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